Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Arrows => Topic started by: hillbilly61 on February 11, 2010, 09:34:54 pm
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Can you get this at Hobby Lobby, or someplace of this type? Sorry for all the questions and I know I need to get a BB, but till I get that you guys are great.
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Tandy Leather, 3 Rivers Archery, Kustom King, and Crazy Crow sells artificial sinew.
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I have also sen it at several different craft stores.
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Yes, you can get it at Hobby Lobby. They also have other neat stuff for us primitives. But its not all in one place; you will need to look around.
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yeah, you can find the fine stuff too. i got some off ebay that is already split.
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I'd price compare the stuff from hobby/craft shops, a local one wanted over $20 for a 1/4# spool. I just bought one for $6 at a rendezvous, average price there was $7-$8. Not that I wouldn't pay $20 if that was the going rate or I need it yesterday, I just can't stand to throw money out the window like that. See if there is a local saddle/leather shop etc. that has reasonable prices.
Swamp
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try ebay. i saw a 1 lb spool for like 11 plus shipping. it was i think they said 4800 meters. more than enough, especially if split..
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Picked some up yesterday at Hobby Lobby. Just the small spool though. The 1/4 pound was fourteen dollars.
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Are you making Strings from this Stuff?? If so...how do you know how many Strands to use...I have never seen a Weight rating on the Stuff....
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El D -
3 Rs list it by poundage. Not sure how accurate it is though. (15, 30, & 70#)
http://www.3riversarchery.com/Primitives+Leather+Working_c13_s259_p0_thumb.html
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Thanks for the Information...might have to try one from this...does anyone have any experience with this as a Bow String...How does it compare to B50?
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One guy I spoke with had one on his selfbow. Said it shot a little harsher than the B50 he was used to. But not bad at all.
He seemed to like it. (Looked good) I''m pretty sure he short served with it too. (Flemish)
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ive got one on my 40lb bow. works pretty good. had to go back and wrap the nock area. was a bit concerned it might start to fray. but other than that, decent stuff.
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I've made a few strings from it, way too stretchy imo.
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ive got one on my 40lb bow. works pretty good. had to go back and wrap the nock area. was a bit concerned it might start to fray. but other than that, decent stuff.
Tell me more!
How many strands (how did you figure amount)?
Flem / endless?
Which material?
Served?
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what were the poundage of your bow hillbilly? i honestly just threw this one together. it was either 3 or 4 strands, not split. i just twisted them together. they do stretch a bit, and it takes a bit to get to the proper length. i shortened it by just twisting in one direction. one day i will make a proper string for the bow.
other than that, i dont know too much about making a bow string :-\ ill have to look up the terms you said.. been concentrating on my arrows lately.
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i mad a flemish string or two from this stuff.
a bit stretchier than B-50 and seemed to fray faster. i don't like it
ive used the 30lb spools and i always do 4x bow weight
for instance 50lb bow X 4=200lb
using a 30lb spool this =7 strands=210 lbs so i do an 8 strand flemish
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El D, I've made strings for 65# bows with 14 strands. Like Steve said, it is stretchy. But I prestretch my strings for about a week with Dive weights.
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Mullet would work out weights work??
I don't have any dive weights on hand at the moment
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how do you use it?
can you back a bow with hide glue and artificial sinew?
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how do you use it?
can you back a bow with hide glue and artificial sinew?
Can't see how that would work...the Artificial Sinew is Waxed...so the Hide Glue would not absorb or stick to it....
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The artificial sinew is just waxed nylon thread, like Mike said, the glue and wax wouldn't combine too good, and you wouldn't get any of the benifits of real sinew. As for strings, it'll work in a pinch, but B-50 is cheaper and works much better.
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Mullet would work out weights work??
I don't have any dive weights on hand at the moment
I think Eddie is traveling for the next day or so. Yes, any weight will work as long as you can it attach to your bowstring (S hook with wire/string works). A bucket with sand in it makes a nice weight, you can add sand by the grain if you want and it doesn't slosh like water. I've used the bucket method for testing fishing knots.
Swamp
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When I make a B-50 string I pre-stretch them by attaching the loop to a cup hook, pull the string as tight as I can by hand and rub a piece of leather up and down the string vigorously. This heats up the string, melts the wax into the string and stretches it a pretty good bit. Since I started doing this my strings only stretch a little but generally level out after a much shorter time.
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Pat, that's a little different approach than what I've done.
Doing a flemish, I'll cut all the strands and stretch each individually.
After the string is on the bow, I'll twist it up a bit short (1/4" ish) then I'll burnish as you mentioned.
I think the string (for me) comes out rounder in the end.
Burnishing seems to make the string longer too on the bow. Probably from getting the strands tighter together and getting some of the wax out. I'll get very little stretch when it's ready for use.
Just another way to skin the same cat. ;)