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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Lombard on February 19, 2010, 09:15:57 pm

Title: Possible Pecan Save
Post by: Lombard on February 19, 2010, 09:15:57 pm
Been working on a Pecan Bow for my Grandson. Well last weekend had it tillered to twenty inches; when the dreaded crack sound resonated around my little barn. Disappointed and frustrated, I built quivers for the rest of the weekend.

Now back home and with fresh eyes, decided to give it another look. Anyway after seeing the 48 inch recurved hickory that Ryoon4690 posted, I was encouraged that the little pecan still has possibilities. Incorporated the knot where it cracked into the nock, and after some shaping looks better. Ended up removing ten inches total making it 55 inches long total. I'll go at again in the morning, and will hopefully salvage a bow out of it.

Note the knot in the photo, it is really playing tricks with my eyes during floor tillering.

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Title: Re: Possible Pecan Save
Post by: George Tsoukalas on February 19, 2010, 11:46:28 pm
Did it break like that at both ends? Jawge
Title: Re: Possible Pecan Save
Post by: Lombard on February 20, 2010, 09:54:03 am
No Jawge, I cut the tips off. The bow cracked at a knot that being six inches from the tip, I thought wouldn't be a problem. So I cut the tip off just above the knot, then reshaped the tips. The knot had an elongated shape, and I think what happened it the knot itself was seperating from the rest of the wood. Just didn't trust it.

So how are you doing sir? I hope your recovery is going well.
Title: Re: Possible Pecan Save
Post by: Ryano on February 20, 2010, 10:36:04 am
Dave, looks like you got a pretty long non bending handle section on the sucker for 55"er. Also your fades look very long. On these shorty's you need every inch of wood to bend or the bow will take a lot of set and or break.
Title: Re: Possible Pecan Save
Post by: Lombard on February 20, 2010, 12:24:22 pm
Thanks Ryan, I will try to get that handle area bending, and shorten the dips.
Title: Re: Possible Pecan Save
Post by: Lombard on February 20, 2010, 02:22:33 pm
Ryan, is this more in line with what you are talking about? By following your suggestion it ends up with about two more inches of working limb, on either side of the handle.

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Title: Re: Possible Pecan Save
Post by: George Tsoukalas on February 20, 2010, 02:45:32 pm
Lombard, I'm doing better. Thank God. Thanks for asking. Jawge
Title: Re: Possible Pecan Save
Post by: Lombard on February 20, 2010, 04:12:15 pm
Been out there scraping, scraping, & scraping. It is finally starting to take shape. My Grandson's draw length is twenty four inches, and the bow is pulling twenty four pounds at twenty four inches. This pecan has all kinds of dips and do's, and a few knots, so it is really testing my eye. The top limb is one and a half inches longer than the bottom limb.

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Title: Re: Possible Pecan Save
Post by: Ryano on February 20, 2010, 10:59:05 pm
Yes sir. That looks much goodlier.... ;D
Title: Re: Possible Pecan Save
Post by: Del the cat on February 21, 2010, 06:48:12 am
Looks really sweet, maybe a tad more flex on the third near the handle on the left limb would spread the load a bit?
It show perseverence and skill when you can rescue what you thought was a lost cause, nice work.
Del
Title: Re: Possible Pecan Save
Post by: Lombard on February 21, 2010, 07:26:35 pm
Did just that Del, and it certainly looks better. Added a linen backing just for insurance too, as this is the shortest bow out of my shop to date.
Title: Re: Possible Pecan Save (with finished Photos)
Post by: Lombard on February 22, 2010, 07:53:34 pm
Howdy All, we had some absolutely awesome weather in Alabama this last weekend. I got a whole list of things done, and even found time to finish up my Grandson's little pecan bow. I ended up naming it, Maybe. Because with that big ole worrisome knot, maybe it will make maybe it wont. Backed it with linen, just in case. This is the first time trying the sunburst thing. Being my own worst critic, I can find all kinds of fault, but it is what it is. 55 inches overall, 24 pounds at 24 inches, and 1&3/4 inches at the dips tapering down to 1/2 inch at the tips. Now if these photos will post.

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Title: Re: Possible Pecan Save
Post by: George Tsoukalas on February 22, 2010, 07:56:50 pm
Very nice work. Jawge
Title: Re: Possible Pecan Save
Post by: HatchA on February 22, 2010, 08:23:15 pm
That's a damn good save!  You should be proud :) 

Let us know how your grandson likes it.  Will you make arrows to match it for him?
Title: Re: Possible Pecan Save
Post by: John K on February 22, 2010, 08:35:18 pm
Outstanding !!
Title: Re: Possible Pecan Save
Post by: david w. on February 22, 2010, 08:39:38 pm
wow really nice looking bow
Title: Re: Possible Pecan Save
Post by: Ryano on February 22, 2010, 11:36:02 pm
Looks pretty good from this angle Dave.  ;D
Title: Re: Possible Pecan Save
Post by: Josh on February 23, 2010, 01:16:49 am
cool Lombard, great save!  :) Glad to see you rescue this one I really like the dye job on it, I am doing one similar this week... Hope it turns out as pretty as yours did...  :)
Title: Re: Possible Pecan Save
Post by: Pappy on February 23, 2010, 12:33:06 pm
Nice save,very nice looking bow,he should love that. :) The colors looks good to me. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: Possible Pecan Save
Post by: Hillbilly on February 23, 2010, 01:16:27 pm
That turned out nice, should make him a good bow.
Title: Re: Possible Pecan Save
Post by: Ken S on February 23, 2010, 09:03:59 pm
very nice bow!
Title: Re: Possible Pecan Save
Post by: OldBow on February 24, 2010, 12:40:06 am
Looks like the lower limb is outbending the upper limb.
Title: Re: Possible Pecan Save
Post by: Lombard on February 24, 2010, 10:34:51 pm
Thanks you gentleman for the kind words and encouragement.

Yes sir OldBow, I am afraid that you are correct. First circle in top limb is a double knot, and the other circles are just single knots. I wasn't really sure how to even out the bending without thinning the wood around the knots to much. Not entirely sure about the bow, that is why I did the linen backing. His draw length is twenty four inches, and in the photos I pulled to twenty eight inches. Figured it would either go or blow.

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Title: Re: Possible Pecan Save
Post by: Lombard on February 28, 2010, 11:57:29 am
Gave my Grandson his new bow, arrows, and quiver. He is only twelve (tall for his age), and we attended his first 3D shoot at the Tannehill Pre Spring Arrow Fling, and we had a blast. He may be hooked on primitive archery for life, I know I am. Here are a couple photos, one at full draw, and in the other he is getting some coaching from Mark (AKA Hillbilly61).

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Title: Re: Possible Pecan Save
Post by: Bent Rig on February 28, 2010, 12:07:41 pm
Very nice ! Love the coloration , and by the pic of your grandson - I would have to say by the smile on his face that you pull off a great save !!  ;)
Title: Re: Possible Pecan Save
Post by: Josh on March 01, 2010, 12:27:16 pm
yeah, he was behind us when I shot Saturday, I first noticed the quiver and said, "dang that looks really familliar".  Then I saw the bow and remembered.  He seemed really happy shooting it Saturday, and the bow really looks awesome in person... Good job, Lombard!   ;)
Title: Re: Possible Pecan Save
Post by: Lombard on March 01, 2010, 09:48:22 pm
Thank you for the kind words. Yeah he was really stoked. Sunday morning at home, I could barely pick up my bow, but he just kept shooting and shooting most of the day.
Title: Re: Possible Pecan Save
Post by: NTD on March 02, 2010, 01:57:45 am
Great little bow.  Love the color and tiller looks nice. 
Title: Re: Possible Pecan Save
Post by: hillbilly61 on March 02, 2010, 08:12:45 am
   Dave   It was a pleasure shooting with your grandson and you. He was a very good student. Allot better than I am a teacher.  ;D I can tell you will be taking him to allot more shoots this year ;)  Sitting around our fire and talking bow was very relaxing and encouraging. Maybe Nick will learn to make works of art as you do. The pics don't do the bow justice. Hope to see ya again in the near future :)
Title: Re: Possible Pecan Save
Post by: Pennhawk on March 02, 2010, 10:27:15 am
Good looking bow good job, nice to see your grand son enjoying himself that's what life is all about.