Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: skyarrow on February 20, 2010, 01:02:26 pm
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my friend jeff and I with his new rifle a panther arms DPMS ar15 platform with ACOG site we spent the afternoon siting it in and shooting stuff here is a 1 of 4 videos we made of us shooting it. i will post pics later
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n453ESI6oFo
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very nice AR15
but you should have been shooting that rifle from several hundred yds
them things are as sweet as apple butter and probably some of the most accurate rifles you can get out of the box
DPMS builds them right here in ST CLOUD ,MN(4.5 miles from my house)
ive used their range to shoot in new shotguns etc.
i have watched these guys shoot their rifles(before they ship them to the customer)from 300+ yds,very very accurate rifles
the one i want cost about $2300,someday ill have it too ;D
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the first video was we were shooting beer bottles at 100 yard i just did not want to post the other three videos but i can if u want ;)
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Never knew much about an ar-15 but my son just got one and he showed me this video on how to bumpfire. Had never heard of bumpfire before but thoght it was pretty wild!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIC8SMttjjo
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sweet gun sterling.
I got me a yugo sks and a couple ar's.
one with a 20'' bull barrel and freefloat forend, the other is just a standard 16'' barrel collapsable stock AR. basically a M4 w/out the full auto lol.
I'm also still saving for a tactical rem 700 20'' barrel .308, on a bell and carlson adjustable stock, topped off with a falcon optics FFP 4-14x-44mm scope. should let me compete someday out to 800 yards :o
thats a perty rifle, DPMS seems to be gaining a reputation for that
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lol lowel don't try that at your local range if you want to be allowed back. unless its your range and there ain't nobody around.... >:D
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Zander... that was my thought too. It looks illegal but the gun is not modified. Also videos on utube of a pistol being shot that way!!
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the first video was we were shooting beer bottles at 100 yard i just did not want to post the other three videos but i can if u want ;)
of course we want.
besides it should be very impressive.them guns are so tight its unreal
did he splurge and get the cryo-barrel?
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I heard that out of the box these things have been known to shoot around 1 MOA, witch for an AR is fantastic. I've only heard of better from custom rifles ie: tacops AR's which are guaranteed to shoot under .25 MOA :o :o :o
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I've got to try that bumpfire when I get home.
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hey eddie hows the jasper hunt goin? got a tan yet? :P
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No jasper down here. I'm in the hills and :( I'm over my head in Coffee. I live in Florida, always have a tan. ;)
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just tried the bumpfire its harder then i thought but i will get it ohh yes ;)
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In April 1967 they took our M-14's and gave us M-16"s. We got some of the first ones without later improvements. Charlie Co got caught in an ambush and their new M-16's started to jam. The only thing that worked that night was machine guns, grenade launchers, pistols, hand grenades and bayonets. We, Alpha Co, had to fix our bayonets and fight into the ambush to save Charlie Co. The North Vietnamese were executing wounded Marines whose rifles jammed when we engaged. If we hadn't gone in Charlie would have been totally wiped out. I sure wish I could share your enthusiasm about the little black rifles.
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Grunt i have heard that about the first combat issued rifles
nice thing is these are nothing like that,these rifles are incredible
DPMS knows how to make these things.
they have so many variants of it.the one i want is chambered for .308,has a bull barrel that has been cryogenicaly treated
a flat tope reciever,aluminum for grip.and much much more
like i said,nothing like that first run of the rifle
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Grunt, from what i understand, the reason for those problems was that the gov. got so hyped up about the new "space gun" and issued them saying they never needed to be cleaned, which simply isn't true. the military, finally realizing their stupidity, then issued out cleaning kits solving many of the problems the M-16 was known for.It was perhaps a gun too far ahead of its time however, since the materials it was made with could have used a couple more years to catch up. ie: plastics capable of being used on a firearm
many US soldiers were like yourself discouraged by the beginning problems but I urge you to give them another shot (no pun intended) the design really has improved alot since then.
please not trying to argue just pointing out this little tidbit of info don't get me wrong I'm a huge fan of the M-14 (which is still used by some snipers today for a reason)
my main complaint would be the trouble with knockdown capabilities with that caliber (5.56 NATO), even though its designed to tumble on impact, and has very high velocity, the ft lbs of force it delivers leave something to be desired, especially compared to the M-14 (.308...or was it 30-06?....i think it was .308...), which was said to be "even more powerful and accurate than the soldiers needed" which to me doesn't seem like a bad thing at all ;D
now if the Geneva convention didn't prohibit the use of hollow points in warfare, the M-16/M-4 might be a more formidable tool.
if you're looking for raw reliability and knockdown power however, the AK-47/AK-74 is the way to go for sure, but the US troops are too good of shots to be able to effectively use the AK ;) :D
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I found out in later years that they did chrome the bolt and chamber and they sorted out the correct powder charges. Some vets I have talked to didn't have the problems we had with the rifles. Most of those vets served later than I did and got different weapons. We were issued one cleaning kit for each fireteam (four men). I ended up carrying a .45 and a M-79 and a shotgun.
Our battalion armorer had piles of M-16's sitting around in the rear with spent rounds stuck in the chamber , the bolt would rip the lip off the back of the empty and you had to pound it out with a ramrod.
I have a Chinese SKS these days.
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sks,now theres another gret rifle ;)
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yep yep got me a yugo sks, helluva gun to shoot ;)
I like the 7.69x39 for range shootin, light recoil. fun gun
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Two AK's...and a Dragunov...to heck with a 5.56....never get the Dependability out of a AR15 that you will from a Kalishinkov Rifle...won't happen...too tight of tolerances on the 5.56...Don't get me Wrong ...I like the litle Guns....but they won't take the Abuse....Dirt and Grime of hundreds of rounds beings shot between cleanings...or getting dirty ...and still shoot well...I have shot my Ak's so much (read Russian Berdan Primed 1940's Military Ammo)...that the Gas Ports would be damned near blocked Solid...and the Gun was still functioning Perfectly...go try that with yout AR's..... ;D
Oh...and they sure sound better ...and put on a Better Fire Show than an AR- 15...when they are Bump Fired too...... :P