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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: parspektiv on February 25, 2010, 11:18:09 am

Title: Two bows done. Lots of pics.
Post by: parspektiv on February 25, 2010, 11:18:09 am
Hi there! I´m working on this serviceberry bow, 70" ntn, limbs parallell for half of their length. Comments on tiller so far, 20" draw?

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Title: Re: comments on tiller
Post by: George Tsoukalas on February 25, 2010, 11:28:26 am
Very nice. Looks great. Jawge
Title: Re: comments on tiller
Post by: Del the cat on February 25, 2010, 11:44:24 am
Just a cat's whisker more off the left limb?
Del
Title: Re: comments on tiller
Post by: half eye on February 25, 2010, 11:58:22 am
Looks good so far....maybe the left limb is more stiff in the mid-limb area...unless you are after a lower limb positive tiller that is.
half eye
Title: Re: comments on tiller
Post by: parspektiv on February 25, 2010, 12:03:03 pm
I think you are right about the left limb, will scrape a bit more mid limb. Should it be more elliptical, more bend towards the tips?
Title: Re: comments on tiller
Post by: Pappy on February 25, 2010, 12:53:55 pm
Guess my eyes are different,looks pretty good just a little flat a few inches out of the fad on the right limb for 6 inches or so. Overall nice. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: comments on tiller
Post by: parspektiv on February 25, 2010, 12:57:19 pm
Different eyes are good! Think you are right.
Title: Re: comments on tiller
Post by: Del the cat on February 25, 2010, 01:28:51 pm
If those horizontal lines on the backboard are true then the string on the nock of the left limb just about touches the line but the same point on the right is deffinitely lower.
Del
Title: Re: comments on tiller
Post by: elk country rp on February 25, 2010, 03:31:05 pm
i agree with Del, 1/2, & Pappy- left mid limb & right limb just outside of the fade both look stiff

that's some pretty straight looking serviceberry!
Title: Re: comments on tiller
Post by: Del the cat on February 25, 2010, 03:48:19 pm
Hope I'm, not harping on here, but if you have a grid, you may as well make use of it.
Third horizontal line down from the handle, follow it to the right, you cross 6 vertical lines and nearly get to the 7th to get to the limb.
Following to the left, it's just over 7 lines.
please ignore me if I'm being a bore here... :-[
Del
(BTW, I do realise bows aren't symetrical etc, I'm just trying to point out some tips...ok I'll shut up and scamper away to my secret cat nest now  ;D)
Title: Re: comments on tiller
Post by: parspektiv on February 25, 2010, 05:33:45 pm
Del, I asked for comments, so that is what I want from you! No need for appoligies!
Title: Re: comments on tiller
Post by: woodstick on February 25, 2010, 09:56:56 pm
left limb is a little stiff. but looks good.
Title: comments on tiller, 25 inches
Post by: parspektiv on March 25, 2010, 01:00:54 pm
After some heat treating and dehydration, I´m on it again. 25" now. I´m greatful for any comments!


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Title: Re: comments on tiller, new pics
Post by: Parnell on March 25, 2010, 01:29:47 pm
Left limb - mid limb slightly stiff?  It's awfully close.  Man, your workshop looks really nice - I wish I had that grid system, pulley, spring scale, and staves up top! ;D
Title: Re: comments on tiller, new pics
Post by: Del the cat on March 25, 2010, 03:19:08 pm
That's soooo much better.
I bet you feel a great sense of achievement.
Del
Title: Re: comments on tiller, new pics
Post by: parspektiv on March 25, 2010, 03:37:29 pm
Parnell, You might be right... But I think there is a tiny bit of reflex in that section, and a tiny bit of deflex on the same place in the right limb, or? Yes, I´m very pleased with my workshop :)
Del, yes it feels much better now! But I´m still open for ideas to make it better!
Title: Re: comments on tiller, new pics
Post by: otis.drum on March 25, 2010, 05:47:29 pm
looking good...

the left limb is slightly longer. is it the top???

the two limbs are bening to the same line now, and whilst the left limb has got a straight section around mid limb, if it is the top limb it will be weakend further when the bow is drawn from the right spot (rather than in the middle).

off set where you're pulling the string from to represent the place it will be pulled when being shot and work on it from there. no point drawing it from the centre to tiller as it wont be shot that way.

JMO


Title: Re: comments on tiller, new pics
Post by: parspektiv on March 26, 2010, 03:45:47 am
Otis, the left limb looks longer in the picture, but isn´t. I had to go out to my workshop and meassure it, to be sure...
Title: Re: comments on tiller, new pics
Post by: bigcountry on March 26, 2010, 07:44:53 pm
I am still a novice at tilering.  But does anything think the inner 3rd of the right limb needs a bit more bend?  Seems teh middle 3rd is bending quite a bit.  I mean I am noone to talk.  But curious.
Title: Re: comments on tiller, new pics
Post by: George Tsoukalas on March 26, 2010, 10:14:11 pm
I agree. Looks to be getting a bit whip tillered. Get the near handle wood moving out to mid limb. Jawge
Title: comments on tiller, done! And one more.
Post by: parspektiv on April 03, 2010, 03:57:53 pm
Finally finished this one. 48#@29", 70" ntn, finished with tar and paraffin. And, while I´m at it, I post some pics of another bow, hazle, 48@29, 66ntn, inspired by mollegabet. It has some propeller twist, so the tiller looks a bit odd, but when I flip it over, the odd looking limb looks better, and the other one odd. Hope I got that right. Anyway, here´s the pics:

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Title: Re: comments on tiller, done! And one more.
Post by: parspektiv on April 03, 2010, 04:01:24 pm
The mollegabet, and a handle from the serviceberry one.


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Title: Re: comments on tiller, done! And one more.
Post by: Del the cat on April 03, 2010, 04:12:52 pm
Blimey You've been busy!
Del
Title: Re: comments on tiller, done! And one more.
Post by: parspektiv on April 03, 2010, 06:21:36 pm
 :) Not that busy, the mollegabet is a couple of months old.
Title: Re: Two bows done. Lots of pics.
Post by: youngbowyer33 on April 04, 2010, 10:57:33 pm
that mollegabet looks awesome!same with the other one great job!
Title: Re: Two bows done. Lots of pics.
Post by: half eye on April 04, 2010, 11:25:21 pm
Par,
      Very nice. While I like them both......ya got to know this old man is a sucker for them Mollegabets.....very, very nice. Curious to know if you find the same attributes of the design as I do (and others), namely light in the hand, good speed and cast with very little to no hand shock and quiet? I've also found them to be very tolerant of miss-matched arrows.   Again, I like  ;D
Rich
Title: Re: Two bows done. Lots of pics.
Post by: parspektiv on April 05, 2010, 03:50:49 am
Thank you!
I like mollegabets too, for a while, every time I draw out a bow on a stave, it somehow became a mollegabet. It just seems like a very good design, as you said: good cast, light, quiet and small hand shock. But to be honest, I haven´t build that many different type of bows, so it´s hard for me to say what I like best.
Title: Re: Two bows done. Lots of pics.
Post by: OldBow on April 05, 2010, 03:40:28 pm
Nice work and bookmarked each for April Self BOM fun, too.