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Title: KY Coffee tree/cherry bark
Post by: Timo on March 05, 2010, 10:46:43 pm
I called this bow"Uno Java" Just seemed to fit.:)

This is the “Kentucky Coffee Tree” bow that I just finished up. 65” ntn-50# @ 28”- I left the sap wood on it and as you will see in one of the pics, the bottom limb is mostly sapwood. Not much imfo on this wood out there so I had to wing it on design. I tried one of these last winter with terrible results, This one came out a lot better. Seems to shoot  very fast and light in the hand. I backed it with some cherry bark that I have had around here for several years. My first time with this type of backing. I will be doing it again. The pics don’t do the beauty of the backing justice. The tips overs are ipe with a touch of blood wood on top. I tru oiled this bow with an overspray of satin poly.
This wood is well worth your time to work if you ever get the chance to. Thanks for lookin



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Post by: Timo on March 05, 2010, 10:48:35 pm
more pics.

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Post by: Simple Hunter on March 05, 2010, 11:03:22 pm
Very,very,very nice bow. I love all of your bows  :)
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Post by: horseapple on March 05, 2010, 11:05:31 pm
wow, what is up with you dude? you are the man, your inspiring me to get off my arse :) i need to get one of your beauties.

JD
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Post by: Ken S on March 05, 2010, 11:09:37 pm
great looking bow I like the backing alot!
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Post by: ricktrojanowski on March 05, 2010, 11:11:02 pm
That is a real beauty.  The tiller looks great as well as the cherry bark backing.  Fine work as always.
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Post by: Justin Snyder on March 05, 2010, 11:14:59 pm
That is a great looking bow. The tiller is immaculate.
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Post by: Okie on March 05, 2010, 11:27:39 pm
I hope you're bring that to OJAM. That is gorgeous! Great job.
I think Ralph Renfro has made 1 or 2 from Coffee tree. He called it Kentucky Coffee. Is that the same stuff?
Title: Re: KY Coffee tree/cherry bark
Post by: horseapple on March 05, 2010, 11:29:26 pm
I have to agree Justin, the tiller is very pleasing to the eye. Someone behind that camera knows what there doing, perfectly clear lines.

JD
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Post by: profsaffel on March 05, 2010, 11:29:56 pm
Timo, it's this kind of elegant simplicity that makes primitive archery a worthwhile endeavor.
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Post by: FlintWalker on March 05, 2010, 11:45:07 pm
Whoa Baby!  That turned out a NICE!   Looks way better than that "stringy" fella holdin' it ;D :P
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Post by: Lombard on March 06, 2010, 12:26:36 am
I really like your bow. Looks like you have a shooter there.
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Post by: El Destructo on March 06, 2010, 01:44:43 am
Another Fine Bow Timo...love the Cherry Bark too....really nice Tiller
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Post by: rossfactor on March 06, 2010, 02:29:55 am
That tiller makes my shoulders relax.  I just feels good to look at.  Nice creek too.
Gabe
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Post by: zenmonkeyman on March 06, 2010, 03:03:18 am
Looks amazing!
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Post by: M-P on March 06, 2010, 03:37:52 am
Hi,  I agree, that looks great!
Ron
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Post by: medicinewheel on March 06, 2010, 03:45:37 am
Sometimes there is a bow being posted here that is simply outstanding...such as this one!
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Post by: PeteDavis on March 06, 2010, 04:11:07 am


Really encouraging to see that bow!
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Post by: nathan elliot on March 06, 2010, 04:23:34 am
A real quality product you have made. I love seeing what craftsmen can do with wood and leather. One of the nicest bows I have seen!

Nat
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Post by: luke the drifter on March 06, 2010, 06:53:27 am
god bless kentucky and the wood that made that bow!!!!!!!!!! :) 8)
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Post by: Cooper on March 06, 2010, 07:51:42 am
A very fine looking bow and a great work with this cherry-bark-backing.
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Post by: DanaM on March 06, 2010, 09:13:59 am
Dang Timo she's beautiful :) Tiller is flawless and the cherry bark dresses her up right nice :)
Probably won't get to the stave you sent me till next year, spring is coming and I'm tired of being house bound :)
Title: Re: KY Coffee tree/cherry bark
Post by: Timo on March 06, 2010, 09:30:43 am
Thanks all for the very kind words. O:)

The cherry bark is very interesting stuff. One wouldn't think you could get it to look like anything when you glue it on,but when you start to clean it up? It's just amazing stuff. ;)

Rossfactor mentioned the creek? It's about 100 yds out my backdoor,we go down there alot. Nice to have it so close. ;)
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Post by: Keenan on March 06, 2010, 12:03:04 pm
Excellent Timo, The cherry bark backing,matching tips smooth graceful lines tiller and profile are all top notch perfect. congratulations on an excellent bow.
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Post by: Pat B on March 06, 2010, 01:04:06 pm
Cool bow, Tim. Cherry bark is interesting to work with . I've made 4 or 5 with cherry bark backing and the last two I left the lichens and mosses attached and that has an interesting look too. It is cool stuff either way.
Title: Re: KY Coffee tree/cherry bark
Post by: bambule on March 06, 2010, 02:52:35 pm
Respect - you've done everything right  8)
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Post by: Gordon on March 06, 2010, 03:27:22 pm
I never heard of coffee wood, but it obviously will make a fine bow. I don't see any seams on the backing - did you find a continous length of bark? The closeup of the handle area shows the craftsmanship nicely. And I love the full draw with the creek in the background.
Title: Re: KY Coffee tree/cherry bark
Post by: Aries on March 06, 2010, 04:55:42 pm
Amazing bow n' great scenery! ;D  Ty
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Post by: Timo on March 06, 2010, 10:22:28 pm
Thanks again all. O:)

Gordon, coffee tree is not real common in my area,but it can be found. The cherry bark is in short pieces, I just used a skive joint.I first had them wrapped with thread but didn't really care for it, So I removed them and just left it. Here's a pic of the joints.Can't feel them but they can be seen.



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Title: Re: KY Coffee tree/cherry bark
Post by: RyanY on March 06, 2010, 10:50:54 pm
That's one beautiful bow. Tiller's fantastic, slick tips, love the bark. Where to you get cherry bark anyways? I like that look better than snake skin.
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Post by: Postman on March 06, 2010, 11:22:07 pm
Simply beautiful - great pics too.
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Post by: elk country rp on March 07, 2010, 02:11:56 am
you're a machine! do you sleep? seems like every week you turn out a work of art weapon that looks like it took a year to make! i'm humbled.
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Post by: OldBow on March 07, 2010, 01:47:47 pm
First of all, thanks for the very well done pictures.
Got this very well crafted bow bookmarked for March Self BOM fun, too.
Title: Re: KY Coffee tree/cherry bark
Post by: medicinewheel on March 07, 2010, 02:14:14 pm
Keep coming back here, hoping for a pic of the belly grain...
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Post by: bigcountry on March 07, 2010, 02:23:05 pm
I just can't believe the amount of skill on this website.  Awesome bow.
Title: Re: KY Coffee tree/cherry bark
Post by: Timo on March 08, 2010, 12:23:59 am
  Medicine wheel wrote
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Keep coming back here, hoping for a pic of the belly grain...

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Title: Re: KY Coffee tree/cherry bark
Post by: medicinewheel on March 08, 2010, 03:01:31 am
Yeah, thanks a lot Timo! ...had an idea it would lookk great from the one picture of the tip!
Is it the normal colour or did it darken from some heat treatment??

PS: this sure is one sexy bow!!!
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Post by: Pappy on March 08, 2010, 07:27:01 am
Beautiful work,very nice looking bow. :)
   Pappy
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Post by: Parnell on March 08, 2010, 10:09:41 am
Timo - that is a real beauty of a bow.  The cherry bark is very nice looking and the profile pictures look tremendous.  Way to go on something a bit different!
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Post by: Christophero on March 08, 2010, 11:20:31 am
I love that bow and everything about it.  I've been whittling on a hickory with about the same dimensions and shape but if it lives (knot in the back splitting) it won't look near that nice.  Great job.
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Post by: Mark Anderson on March 08, 2010, 12:20:07 pm
Stunning! Very Nice work. Hey, I live in southern MO do you know if it is possible to find KYcoffee tree around here? I have no idea what to look for.
Great job I always love the cherry backed ones.
Mark
Title: Re: KY Coffee tree/cherry bark
Post by: Timo on March 08, 2010, 12:25:09 pm
Thanks again everyone for the nice words about this bow. O:)

Commadore, you should have some down your way,here is a link to a page full of pics, The bark pics in these represent the species quite well.

http://images.google.com/images?q=Kentucky_coffeetree&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi

Title: Re: KY Coffee tree/cherry bark
Post by: Mark Anderson on March 08, 2010, 01:19:21 pm
Ok thanks Timo! I am sure I've seen some around here. I'll have to fire the saw up and go looking, (well I'll look before I fire it up)
Mark
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Post by: snedeker on March 08, 2010, 02:19:07 pm
I've thought about that wood for years.  Have a tree right in front of the office.  Great work and masterful finishing.
Dave
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Post by: DCM4 on March 08, 2010, 04:00:50 pm
Beautiful as usual Tmo.  Looks kinda like Ash.

Crick is perty.  Frogs are loud.  ;-)
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Post by: Jmilbrandt on March 08, 2010, 07:27:40 pm
Looks awesome, I like the looks of the grain near the fades.
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Post by: PeteC on March 08, 2010, 09:16:43 pm
That is an outstanding bow Timo.I like everything about it. Great job. God Bless
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Post by: Rich Saffold on March 08, 2010, 10:04:29 pm
It does look like Ash, that is very sweet Timo. keep me in mind for another trade. I'll make it worth your time ;K

Rich- into diversity ;D
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Post by: cowboy on March 08, 2010, 10:31:13 pm
Thats one beautiful lookin piece of wood there Tim!
Title: Re: KY Coffee tree/cherry bark
Post by: Timo on March 08, 2010, 11:12:28 pm
Thanks again all. The wood does favor ash in alot of respects, but looks alot like sassafras.

 medicine wheel wrote
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Is it the normal colour or did it darken from some heat treatment??

Sorry I forgot to answer your question. the natural color of the heart  wood is an orange pink.I heated the belly to get it to turn the color it is now. It actually turns purple with heat, but it left after finish sanding.

The sapwood is a very pale yellow color. I was going to leave it natural, but it shot so well that I decided that I might hunt with it, so I give it some natural camo. ;D
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Post by: Orkraider on March 08, 2010, 11:21:39 pm
I've seen a lot of nice looking bows on here, but I have to say, that is something special right there.

I just kept staring at the pictures. Thanks for sharing, man, well done.
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Post by: jamie on March 09, 2010, 09:58:45 am
wow tim you just inspired me to put the rocks down and make a bow. shes beautiful
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Post by: Keenan on April 02, 2010, 05:29:12 pm
 Timo, just had to take another look at this excellent bow that you made. Excellent in every way. Love it
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Post by: Dave 55 on April 02, 2010, 06:22:10 pm
What a super fine lookin bow Timo,you did a great job.
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Post by: Shaun on April 08, 2010, 01:04:29 am
Timo, been a while since I cruised the PA site and what a treat to find this one! The tiller on that bow inspires me to keep reaching. Its tough enough with Gordon out there, now you too? Thanks man for lighting the fire.
Title: Re: KY Coffee tree/cherry bark
Post by: Timo on April 08, 2010, 08:42:30 am
Thanks again for the nice words all.

Shaun, long time no hear?  Good to know that my  work inspires someone, this craft should always yield something good and positive. As a bowyer the biggest compliment he can ever hope to achieve is that from  his peers. We never know if what we accomplish will ever touch someone in a way that may make them  strive to build their next bow a little better. A better arc, a better finish, a better design, or a step off into the grass to try something new,even though it is clearly marked that they should not?

Keep the fire burning brother.  ;)
Title: Re: KY Coffee tree/cherry bark
Post by: Blacktail on April 08, 2010, 10:28:23 am
i cant believe the finish work you do and the tiller is so wonderful...i have to say that you are a master of such fine work..i would love to see what you could do with a piece of yew wood..john
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Post by: VenomBOWslinger on April 08, 2010, 10:33:36 am
Beautiful looking wood and bow! Excellent work!

Venom
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Post by: Timo on April 08, 2010, 07:32:29 pm
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.i would love to see what you could do with a piece of yew wood..john

John, I tried it a couple years a ago. can't handle it,I had a reaction to the dust, so I have to stay away from it.

Thanks. ;)
Title: Re: KY Coffee tree/cherry bark
Post by: hbbows on June 20, 2010, 11:34:19 pm
Timo,
I'm new to this site but have about 60 bows completed.  I'm curious about the coffee wood.  I picked up a couple of pieces at a small mill in northern Kentucky last week.  Did you round the belly somewhat?  The staves were not handled very carefully and the sapwood is gouged enough where I will have to get below it for a good growth ring.  Your bow looks very straight grained.  Was it naturally straight?  Did you straighten or can you get by with grain running off the edge somewhat. Not sure I have enough width for a tapered limb like yours.  Have you tried a long bow out of coffee.  The cherry bark is a very nice touch.   

HB
Title: Re: KY Coffee tree/cherry bark
Post by: Timo on June 20, 2010, 11:50:49 pm
HB, the belly is radius somewhat. mainly the corners are rounded to give it some flow and help with tweaking the tiller.

this bow came from a very straight stave which I cut myself. I haven't worked with this wood much ,so I am not real sure what one can and can't get away with, although I do feel that one has to give it some width.

I haven't tried a longbow from it.

Thanks for the good words, and good luck with yours.
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Post by: denny on June 21, 2010, 10:28:26 am
A very Elegant bow Timo and pleasing to the eye. Denny
Title: Re: KY Coffee tree/cherry bark
Post by: Tiredtim on October 16, 2013, 04:45:36 pm
How do you use cherry bark as backing?  That is a beautiful bow. 
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Post by: Joec123able on October 16, 2013, 04:58:52 pm
How do you use cherry bark as backing?  That is a beautiful bow.


Timo hasnt been on since wayyyyy back in march so don't expect an answer from him
Title: Re: KY Coffee tree/cherry bark
Post by: mullet on October 16, 2013, 05:19:56 pm
Soak the bark in water to soften it and then apply it with, my preferred, TB3.
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Post by: warpath on October 16, 2013, 06:30:20 pm
Timo- Made a few coffee wood bows myself now. Sadly by the time I got to it the wood was already milled up so it all had to be backed. I love the belly grain on your bow, and the cherry bark just adds that extra special touch. Now I want to make another one!! :)  Wonder if I planed out some coffee wood shafts how they would hold up? Anyone out there try that yet?

  G
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Post by: missilemaster on October 16, 2013, 07:41:25 pm
Elegant! :)