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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: hillbilly61 on March 21, 2010, 05:04:53 pm

Title: 1st Osage Pics of finished bow
Post by: hillbilly61 on March 21, 2010, 05:04:53 pm
This is my first selfbow. I need opinions and comments. Its 62" n2n 45# @ 26" It has allot of character. 1 knot just past mid limb that makes it look like it hinges, but at tiller and full draw it seems to be bending right (to me anyway) :-\  Is it a little stiff at the tip areas? If it's good to go, then I need to start sanding, rounding the edges and wrap the handle. please tell me what ya think.

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Title: Re: 1st Osage
Post by: Lombard on March 21, 2010, 05:41:58 pm
Hillbilly61, appears that you are off to a good start. I doctored your photo with an ellipse so that you can see for yourself where you need to get more bending. You are very close.

Looking forward to more photos. Good luck, and God speed.

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Title: Re: 1st Osage
Post by: adb on March 21, 2010, 05:48:29 pm
For your first (osage) selfbow, I think you should give yourself a big old pat on the back, and call it a job well done. Start sanding, finish it up and  call it a bow, and then go out and shoot the heck out of it! ;D
Title: Re: 1st Osage
Post by: hillbilly61 on March 21, 2010, 05:49:43 pm
Thanks Dave. Taking it out right now and work on the upper mid limb. Is it OK to leave that last 4-5" at tip a little stiff like they are now?  1 more question. How the heck do you get that elip. in the photo? If I had that it would help allot in the future. ;D
Title: Re: 1st Osage
Post by: George Tsoukalas on March 21, 2010, 06:00:11 pm
Congratulations! That is an outstanding bow. You did well. Jawge
Title: Re: 1st Osage
Post by: Lombard on March 21, 2010, 08:42:25 pm
I've left the last few inches non-bending on on several of my bows. You are ok to do that, although on short bows I've been given sound advise to get all the limb possible working. I sent you a PM with instructions on how to doctor your photos. El Destructo taught me, so the thanks go to him.
Title: Re: 1st Osage
Post by: DanaM on March 21, 2010, 08:45:53 pm
Looks great and I like stiff tips :)
Title: Re: 1st Osage
Post by: woodstick on March 21, 2010, 10:27:43 pm
nuting wrong with dat. great job.
Title: Re: 1st Osage
Post by: sailordad on March 21, 2010, 10:34:36 pm
very very nice for your first
i would call it done and put the finish on her and shoot the snot out of it

when using that eliptical overlay on character bows
take pics from both sides and put the overlay on both pics to get a true feel for the tiller
it may look off from one side and dead on on the other when it comes to character bows
even for ones that just have prop twist to them
Title: Re: 1st Osage
Post by: Pappy on March 22, 2010, 07:57:27 am
Very well done,nice work. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: 1st Osage
Post by: crooketarrow on March 22, 2010, 08:37:29 am
   LOOKS GOOD    Hiillbillys pic's are great.Do a little exture sanding on the upper part of the top limb and stainer up.
Title: Re: 1st Osage
Post by: Hillbilly on March 22, 2010, 11:31:10 am
Looking good. I like stiff tips, don't want the last few inches bending myself. I'd do just a wee bit of scraping about 3/4 of the way up the top limb, then be shooting that one. Good job.
Title: Re: 1st Osage
Post by: riarcher on March 22, 2010, 11:33:56 am
Hillbilly61, appears that you are off to a good start. I doctored your photo with an ellipse so that you can see for yourself where you need to get more bending. You are very close.

Looking forward to more photos. Good luck, and God speed.

Learning and not critisizing.  :)
If the eliptical was centered just above the knuckle,, It would appear perfect(?).
My understanding is either way is considered acceptable? But my info (understanding) may have something to do with split finger / 3 under release tillering?
The way the eliptical is shown in photo, would that make (consider) the bottom limb weaker or stronger?
As mentioned,, I'm only trying to learn. Thanks.

Either way,, I only hope my first comes out nearly as sweet. Good job I think  ;D
Title: Re: 1st Osage
Post by: nclonghunter on March 22, 2010, 02:11:50 pm
riarcher, I am with you on the elliptical  being slightly off. The lower part is in front of the limb and upper behind. It looks like the bow angle is a little forward on top which makes it appear stiff on top. Might pay to reposition the elliptical a little before removing wood. I gotta say, I have never seen the elliptical used and that is a great tool. Thanks for sharing it.

Not trying to offend, just my observation and probably wrong but I have gotten used to it....
Title: Re: 1st Osage
Post by: OldBow on March 22, 2010, 02:55:08 pm
I like it. Bookmarked, too, for March Self BOM fun. Give me a heads up if you post new pictures.
Title: Re: 1st Osage
Post by: uwe on March 22, 2010, 04:13:02 pm
Your first Osage? I`ve read it twice. Thought nearly everyone in the States made one of Osage.
Regards Uwe
Title: Re: 1st Osage
Post by: hillbilly61 on March 22, 2010, 10:45:24 pm
Thanks guys. Your comments and complaments are greatly appreciated.  I did a little sanding on the belly to get her ready for the tru-oil, but ended up working late today. If I get a chance to get a few more pics with it stained and handle wrapped I'll put them up in the next few days.
Title: Re: 1st Osage
Post by: El Destructo on March 22, 2010, 10:54:16 pm
                                            I wish my First Osage looked that nice...a Job Well Done.....
Title: Re: 1st Osage
Post by: uwe on March 23, 2010, 11:50:05 am
When I made my first Osagebow, about12 or 13 years ago I was very careful working with this wood. I was astonished how much more power and strength this wood covered. My bow was shorter than my others, the limbs weren`t as wide and there was so much strength. I don`t know if there exist a pic somewhere, but she looked and she shot got (still she does, although I shortened and retillered the bow).
Later somebody told me that Osage will still give a good bow, even if Newbies do it (I think the Newbie must already have good tillering experiences, because the wood is to expensive (in Germany/ Europe)).
Regards Uwe
Title: Re: 1st Osage
Post by: Diligence on March 23, 2010, 04:11:37 pm
I sure like the looks of that one.

I've been using the ellipse tool as well, but am trying to follow the adage, "take one aspirin, not the whole bottle" and so am trying not to overthink things.  I took the liberty of adding my own ellipse to your bow.  First I levelled the bow so the back was horizontal (as best I could) then added the ellipse being sure to intersect the nocks. (per instructions I got on this site)



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Title: Re: 1st Osage
Post by: El Destructo on March 24, 2010, 01:29:19 am
                                                                           ;D
Title: Re: 1st Osage
Post by: riarcher on March 24, 2010, 01:40:37 am
Looks better to me. Nice job too.
Title: Re: 1st Osage
Post by: VenomBOWslinger on March 24, 2010, 02:31:38 am
Good work I like it !

Russ
Title: Re: 1st Osage
Post by: Parnell on March 24, 2010, 09:57:02 am
That is super work for your first one.  I'm trying to get some twist out of an Osage stave then I'll be joining you.  Great job, looking forward to seeing you finishing it up!
Title: Re: 1st Osage
Post by: HatchA on March 24, 2010, 05:51:06 pm
That is super work for your first one.  I'm trying to get some twist out of an Osage stave then I'll be joining you.  Great job, looking forward to seeing you finishing it up!

Aye, a great tiller achieved!!

I got my first osage stave yesterday, all the way from Missouri and there's some twist to contend with but man...  I am SO looking forward doing this!!
Title: Re: 1st Osage Pics of finished bow
Post by: hillbilly61 on April 03, 2010, 05:32:24 pm
 I said I would put up the pics when I got it finished. I didn't do any finish sanding because I wanted to make it as rustic as I could. I used acrylic waterbased paint. Covered the whole bow and wiped off the excess so it left it in all the marks.Seeled it with bees wax and  wrapped the handle in black rawhide.
Title: Re: 1st Osage Pics of finished bow
Post by: Dean Marlow on April 03, 2010, 06:44:12 pm
hillbilly you did an outstanding job on that bow. That being your first I can't wait to see some more you do in the future. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: 1st Osage Pics of finished bow
Post by: mox1968 on April 04, 2010, 05:03:31 pm
looks great nice job!! anyway so how do you get that elipse to show up??