Primitive Archer

Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: TBod on April 23, 2010, 01:37:02 pm

Title: Crossbow (not entirely primitive) + video
Post by: TBod on April 23, 2010, 01:37:02 pm
Hi!

A little crossbow. The bow is 40" 25# at 17". European Oak with Linenbacking. The rest of it is mostly a crappy Fir board.

Chrono readings:
arrow          speed
110gr     -   175 fps
140       -    160
156       -    153
188       -    150
219       -    138

My scale for weighing the arrows can differ +/-10 gr. The length of the arrows seem to affect the speed also. I managed to gain about 10 fps by changing the stringalignment.

Working on another heavier bow to put on this crosssbow.

Not the best pics..

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Title: Re: Crossbow (not entirely primitive)
Post by: mullet on April 23, 2010, 02:13:50 pm
 Cool.
Title: Re: Crossbow (not entirely primitive)
Post by: lowell on April 23, 2010, 09:05:07 pm
Very cool!!!.... I made one this past winter and it is about 70# but I have no idea of it's speed.

 Was thinking about hunting with it if my shoulder continued to give me trouble.  I would have to make another (bow) to make it legal to the 125# rquirement!!  Shoulder is feeling much better so have not done more with the crossbow.
Title: Re: Crossbow (not entirely primitive)
Post by: TBod on April 24, 2010, 03:22:47 am
Thanks Mullet and lowell. I also have problem with a shoulder, crossbows are kinder in that area.
Title: Re: Crossbow (not entirely primitive)
Post by: HatchA on April 24, 2010, 11:39:33 am
What is it about archers/bowhunters and shoulder injuries...?

Unfortunately, I had the injury BEFORE I found archery  :-\

I'm kinda hoping it acts as "therapeutic exercise" instead of aggravating the matter...  wishful thinking, eh?


Wonderful looking crossbow!!  What's the story with crossbow # legalities?  Is 70# not powerful enough in the Law's eyes?  Or is it something to do with the relationship between crossbows and firearms?
Title: Re: Crossbow (not entirely primitive)
Post by: lowell on April 24, 2010, 02:12:22 pm
Seems I read something aboout a crossbow having half the force/power of a longbow.  So a 70# crossbow would be comparable to a 35# longbow.  Also something there about the length the arrow is being pushed with the string.  My crossbow pushes arrow about 12-13" where a longbow is more in the 22" to 26"....depending on draw??

  :-[  I  just edited this after I read it again.  The string is pushing the arrow the draw length minus the brace hieght!! :-[

 State requires 125# here to be legal to hunt with crossbow.  Age 62 and over makes you legal to use crossbow or if an injury makes pulling a bow impossible you can get a special "permit with Dr. notes etc to the state.
Title: Re: Crossbow (not entirely primitive)
Post by: TBod on April 24, 2010, 03:45:20 pm
Thanks Hatcha!

lowell
Thats true about the draw length. Half draw equals half energy put to the arrow. If you draw it to 18-19" instead you get a 75# crossbow similar to a 50 # bow. Also you can use a lower braceheight on a crossbow. So it should pay of to have a lot of early drawweight (reflex or recurve). Thats just me thinking out loud, since it's my first so far..
Title: Re: Crossbow (not entirely primitive)
Post by: El Destructo on April 24, 2010, 04:08:01 pm
What is it about archers/bowhunters and shoulder injuries...?

Unfortunately, I had the injury BEFORE I found archery  :-\

I'm kinda hoping it acts as "therapeutic exercise" instead of aggravating the matter...  wishful thinking, eh?


I too have a Shoulder Injury...and the Bow has done nothing but good for mine...I broke 6 ribs...my Collarbone and Shoulderblade on my Left Side in a Bike Wreck in 93....Had to work up to stronger Bows and more shooting....but it did nothing but good for me.
Title: Re: Crossbow (not entirely primitive)
Post by: recurve shooter on April 25, 2010, 12:20:04 am
man i hate that. i goofed mine up a little bit last year when i missed a tackle and landed with all my weight on the left shoulder. but mine just pops out of place every now and then, not as bad as yours. :-\
Title: Re: Crossbow (not entirely primitive)
Post by: hillbilly61 on April 25, 2010, 12:16:14 pm
man i hate that. i goofed mine up a little bit last year when i missed a tackle and landed with all my weight on the left shoulder. but mine just pops out of place every now and then, not as bad as yours. :-\

You did'nt play college football for Texes did ya ;D ;)
Title: Re: Crossbow (not entirely primitive)
Post by: TBod on June 13, 2010, 12:26:39 pm
A new blade. Elm 40#

210 fps 110 grain/7 gram
190      160        10
170      250        16

Shooting video with 160 grain at 28 Y/25 m
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbaD-opD4a4

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Title: Re: Crossbow (not entirely primitive) + video
Post by: Voodoo on June 15, 2010, 01:02:17 pm
Wow, very cool!!....... but I never realized it would be ok to post primitive type crossbow stuff here............I've got one that's handmade and used by natives in thailand it was given as a gift to a missionary who brought it back here in 1960........bamboo bow, bone trigger, bamboo arrows with bamboo leaf fletches.... it's very cool looking too...... would it be alright to post a picture here or should I start a thread about it?.......I sure don't want to hijack or take anything away from Tbod or his beautiful work........
Title: Re: Crossbow (not entirely primitive) + video
Post by: El Destructo on June 15, 2010, 01:44:52 pm
You can post any style Bow in the " Around The Campfire" thread....In fact you can post anything except Politics and Religion.....well and other Unsavory Subjects too...... >:D
Title: Re: Crossbow (not entirely primitive) + video
Post by: TBod on June 15, 2010, 03:50:36 pm
Thanks Voodoo!

Post the bow wherever you want , I really like to see it!!
Title: Re: Crossbow (not entirely primitive) + video
Post by: Voodoo on June 17, 2010, 11:26:47 pm
Very good, I've been kinda busy, and forgot about the pics, I'll take some tomorrow and get them posted, I took it over to the Farmland shoot so a friend could play a joke, which he hever did, but I got it out to show another friend and it kinda drew a crowd, I couldn't believe it, I thought I'd be chastized for bringing a crossbow to a trad shoot, so I kept it hidden for a long time but instead .....they were facinated..... sure suprised me!!