Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: leapingbare on May 11, 2010, 11:16:42 am
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Let me start by saying that electricity and myself don't get along to well.
Ok i have this Kiln that runs off 240v I need to be able to run it off 120v.
Dose all the wiring need to be replaced or just the power cord?
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Let me start by saying that electricity and myself don't get along to well.
Ok i have this Kiln that runs off 240v I need to be able to run it off 120v.
Dose all the wiring need to be replaced or just the power cord?
Don't quote me on this, cause I'm not the best at electricity either, but I think all that needs to happen is if you buy one of those converters from Walmart. It may not work though if the plug on the kiln isn't European.
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its got a dryer plug on it now.
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I just had a wild idea.
I have a power outlet on the back of my house it has two 120v outlets. could i rewire that to have one 240v outlet? and would that run my kiln?
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Nearly all homes have 2 120 lines and a nuetral. You need to have a 220 plug wired up from your fuse box. You cant just put together two 120 plugs because they are likely going to be off the same 120 leg. You can probably get it done for around $100.00 if you shop around a bit. Steve
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you will need to run a new wire to a new plug to do it rite if you have a breaker box outside you can set it up there come out of it with the 220 to wherever you want it to go and put your plug on the end of it and thats it. and make shure that you come off of both legs for you 220 and not the same leg call me if you need help
361-935-1715
sterling lynch
GL and ttyl ;)
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Jesse .....You might look at the diagram on the Kiln...and see if it says 110/220.....some are convertible...some are not....depends on the size of the heating element.....too big of an element....and they won't heat enough when converted to 110....how often are you going to use this? May be better off to just plug it in where your Dryer is...whenever you use it....that's what I do with my Crackerbox Welder.....
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I would suggest that you pay an electrician. I would hate to see you electricute yourself over a couple of $. It is usually possible to change it to 110 since most 220 appliances have two heating elements, or an element and a control module, each runs on a different 110 leg of the 220. However, if the kiln wasn't designed for it you risk burning up the kiln and the house.
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Don't know for sure but am really glad you are finely going to get that thing out of my way. ;) ;D ;D
You may ask Don/Kevin or Jeff mayo,they are all good electricans and I am sure would be glad to help you out. :) :)
Pappy
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Pappy....is it that big beast of a Pottery Kiln that I seen near the knapping pit? Man ....I bet you are glad to see that going.... >:D.....Yeh you have a few Electricians in the Club don't you....Dang Jesse....just make em some point....and they may cut you a good deal..... ;)
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Take this from someone who has built power lines for the past 13 years....
Hire yourself a good electrician to install a dedicated plug for the kiln. Some place where the heat will not get into your house.
It will draw a good peal of power over a long period of time.
It can burn your house down if it is not set up correctly.
David
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As a former Fire Fighter, I agree with Ridgerunner. Pay the Electrician! Unless you are looking for insurance money........ ::)
Wayne
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Thanks guys.
Pappy i spoke with Dave on the phone about it and I've also spoke to Jeff. The data plate on the kiln said 115/230 so i am guessing thats the range of volts it can run off of. i know it wont get as hot on 120v then 220v but the max temp is 2500* and i only need it to go to 900* max so I'm sure 120v will be enough. so only thing i need to do is change the male plug on the cord or find an adaptor.
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Also Jesse....220 volt is cheaper to run on than 110/120 is.....but since it heat that Hot.....man I ain't never seen a Pottery Kiln get that hot.....but if it does....should be no problem cooking rock at a lower voltage....jmo
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It really isn't going to get hotter on 220 than 110. I would still have an electrician wire you a 220 for it in the garage though. If you do decide to use 110 you will want to use a minimum of 12 guage wire with a 20 amp breaker which probably means running a new circut anyway.
Depending on how often you are going to use it, you could have the electrician build you a power cord and run it from the dryer plug in the laundry room. ???
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Jesse, if it is a pottery kiln, it will have to be converted. All the coils pulled out, new ones installed,new switches. I did a how to about it some time ago. I'll try to look it up a let ya know.
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you could have the electrician build you a power cord and run it from the dryer plug in the laundry room. ???
Gee I think I heard that somewheres already in this Post...... ::)........ ;).......... ;D
And Timo....You are most likely correct...but I have one that is 120/230...ond it works fine on 110 volt Household...but then it says it's convertible...my buddies Mother has one...and it is only 220/230...and it's like you said...you need to pull out the Coils...make new ones...and rewire it for 110 with a 110/120 Rheostat and all...
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this one says 120/220 . i replaces the 220 plug with a 120 plug. Its plugged in and on a test run right now. its been on high for 2 hours and is at 650* if i can getr another 100* outa it and then figger out how to controll the temp's then I'll be cookin with mow gas! so far so good.
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;).... ;).... ;)
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you could have the electrician build you a power cord and run it from the dryer plug in the laundry room. ???
Gee I think I heard that somewheres already in this Post...... ::)........ ;).......... ;D
You said plug it in to the laundry. I am specifying that it can be left in the garage and plugged in to the laundry. ;) I don't think his significant other would like him leaving that monster kiln in the laundry room. ;D
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My wife don't like my !00 foot exrension Cord for My Cracker Box running through Her Laundry Room and through the Kitchen too much either....... ;D
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My wife don't like my !00 foot exrension Cord for My Cracker Box running through Her Laundry Room and through the Kitchen too much either....... ;D
We need to get you a self contained garage complete with microwave, bathroom and 220 volt plug. ;D
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We need to get you a self contained garage complete with microwave, bathroom and 220 volt plug. ;D
That woud be Nice...when can We start...... >:D....My 2 car garage is so full...only my Shelby and Harley can fit...and then it's tight.... ;)
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If things work out I have a nice Gear oven that got under water in the flood,I am going to replace
it with a new one in my work shop,if the insurance don't pick it up I plan on bringing it home and dry it out and see if it will still work.I am not sure how hot it will get but we use it to heat Transmission gears and cam gears to install.I think it will get 7 or 8 hundred degrees. :) and it is easy to control. :)
Pappy
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Cool pappy! I'm sure it would work on rock.
I just got electrocuted twice from my kiln. 1st time was an axedent then i was like wow did that just happen, so i tuched it again with the other hand... yep it got me :)
Some how i have a slight current running through the metal thats around the out side of the kiln.
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May be one of the coils are touching the case and not insulated.Or a ground problem.I can see the head lines now,Man killed while cooking rock. ;) ;D ;D
Pappy
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yea I'll have to check it.. also i really need to clean this kiln up. i am just making sure it will work before i spend the money to fix it up.
It just jolted me a little made my left shoulder a little sore. eah just 120v ;D
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;D ;D ;D ;D Your tough.
Pappy
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well i have two nobs in this kiln with 3 settings on each knob ( low , med , high )
low/low = 275* witch will work for drying
low/med = 325*
med/med = i don't know because that killed the outlet. I tryed flipping the fuse at the breaker but nothing hapend. I'm going to get a power converter before i run it anymore. Also need to figger out how to get that outlet to work again.
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Most things I have seen that run on 220 will draw double the amps if you attempt to just switch plugs. Are you sure there is not some wires that have to be changed over in the control box to swithch it. 120v can kill you. I rewired a jacuzzi once to 120 but had to change the wiring configuration per the instructions. Nothing to play with too much to loose if something goes wrong. Steve
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You most likely got shocked because you have a grounding problem in the kiln. It IS NOT supposed to shock you.
Check the ends of your 120v. plugs. Make sure they all have three prongs on them.
How old is you house??? Many old houses only have a two wire system for the 120v. plugs. You need at least a three wire system.
Most building codes now require a four wire system. The fourth wire is a dedicated ground.
If this kiln is setting on the ground or concrete, when it is plugged in, DO NOT touch it bare footed or with wet shoes on. Especially if the ground or concrete is wet.
Badger is right about the current. Half the voltage will equal twice the current to produce the same amount of heat.
Current makes wires HOT. If you are using an extension cord to run the kiln make sure the cord is not rolled up in any manner. It will melt and short out if it is.
I don't know why the breaker will not reset?? Don't try to do a ( homemade ) work around on it.
What type of device are you calling a " power converter" ???
David