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Title: problem with feathers cutting my hand when shooting
Post by: colejack3 on July 17, 2010, 07:46:45 pm
Hey everyone I shoot off my knuckle and have a problem with feathers cutting my knuckle when I shoot. Does this happen to anyone else ???? If so what was your solution? Thanks
Title: Re: problem with feathers cutting my hand when shooting
Post by: denny on July 17, 2010, 07:59:43 pm
Make a flap rest. Use a small pc of leather and insert into you handle wrap and this will lay on top of your hand. Also try gluing the end of the fletch and lightly sand after it dries on the front edge. Denny
Title: Re: problem with feathers cutting my hand when shooting
Post by: colejack3 on July 17, 2010, 08:21:08 pm
could you show me a picture of what you mean by a leather rest please?
Title: Re: problem with feathers cutting my hand when shooting
Post by: aznboi3644 on July 17, 2010, 08:47:38 pm
My hand was getting cut when I first started shooting...but I just kept shooting.  A little blood aint gonna kill ya...I have a scar now where the arrow pass is.  Skin thickens...after a while it willl be like a leather patch between your thumb and index finger. 

As Tim the Tool Man Taylor would say  "Arrr arr arrrr arrrgghhh!!!!"
Title: Re: problem with feathers cutting my hand when shooting
Post by: half eye on July 17, 2010, 09:12:18 pm
You could try wrapping the leading edge (tapered quill) with thread then coat with clear fingernail polish. In my personal experience if you taper the quill to a low angle, and then wrap, the cuts wont happen. It's usually the leading edge of the quill that cuts your hand.
rich
Title: Re: problem with feathers cutting my hand when shooting
Post by: Pat B on July 17, 2010, 09:39:54 pm
This is what I use to protect my hand while shooting. It is a Ferret's Floppy Rest invented by Mickey Lotz. Works great, protects your hand and still feels like shooting off your hand.
  Also, I have made a habit of wrapping the forward end of the fletching with thread, This makes for a smooth transition between the feather and shaft.

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Title: Re: problem with feathers cutting my hand when shooting
Post by: colejack3 on July 17, 2010, 10:07:09 pm
I cant read that my eyes arent any good  could you or someone post a pic of the shelf on the bow?
Title: Re: problem with feathers cutting my hand when shooting
Post by: Gordon on July 17, 2010, 10:22:09 pm
I taper the leading edge of each feather with a drum sander. Then I burnish the ends with a metal rod and finish with a drop of glue.
Title: Re: problem with feathers cutting my hand when shooting
Post by: Pat B on July 18, 2010, 12:22:39 am
Here are a few. The second one is not one of my favorites...but it used to be!  :(


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Title: Re: problem with feathers cutting my hand when shooting
Post by: rileyconcrete on July 18, 2010, 12:25:43 am
Heres a rest I did, on my osage bow, and also you can see how my fletching is wrapped with artificial sinew.


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Title: Re: problem with feathers cutting my hand when shooting
Post by: medicinewheel on July 18, 2010, 04:14:11 am
Whenever the problem appeared on one of my bows I solved it by having the nockpoint a bit higher.

First of all I sand down the tip side end of the feather and wrap it carfully.
Title: Re: problem with feathers cutting my hand when shooting
Post by: AndrewS on July 18, 2010, 09:02:20 am
I 'm with Frank: Nock the arrow a little bit higher and the problem is gone..... In my experience it isn't the feather, it is the nock that hit on your hand after release the arrow and with changing the nock-point you will not have this problem any longer!
Title: Re: problem with feathers cutting my hand when shooting
Post by: hillbilly61 on July 18, 2010, 09:45:20 am
A nice deer skin glove with the fingertips cut out works very good Like said above, wrap the leading edges of the fletch with artificial sinew.
Title: Re: problem with feathers cutting my hand when shooting
Post by: sailordad on July 18, 2010, 09:52:30 am
yup wrap the leaqding edge of the fletch,use a floppy rest or glove
or yo could do like i have done,turn a wrench for 20+ yrs then your hands are all acllouses and no worries  ;D ;)

cant believe its the nock hitting you and doing the cutting
if you do change the nock point,you may no longer be shooting int that "sweet spot" that the bow likes best
just something to consider
Title: Re: problem with feathers cutting my hand when shooting
Post by: medicinewheel on July 18, 2010, 12:50:43 pm
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if you do change the nock point,you may no longer be shooting int that "sweet spot" that the bow likes best
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I'm talking of ONE millimeter, or not even that; that did not affect the sweet spot.
Title: Re: problem with feathers cutting my hand when shooting
Post by: sailordad on July 18, 2010, 01:11:46 pm
1mm might and might not affect it
however on another site where he has this exact same topic posted
some one suggested he move it .25",that will definatly afect the arrows flight from the bow ;)
that is why i responded on this site the way i did
Title: Re: problem with feathers cutting my hand when shooting
Post by: AndrewS on July 18, 2010, 01:56:20 pm
I said it is the nock, cause I have wrapped all my flechtings, so that the feather keel can't cut in my hand. I have these problem, if I nocked to low (that happens some times because I'm shooting without nockpoint).
Title: Re: problem with feathers cutting my hand when shooting
Post by: Del the cat on July 18, 2010, 02:36:04 pm
I had exactly the same prob for years, until someone explained to raise the nock a whisker, it just means the arrow leaves the bow with it's tail slighty high so it misses your hand. (It soon straigtens up) It's good to know that after 30 odd years we can still learn.
I'd previously solved the problem by using an old leather glove with the fingers and thumb cut off except for about 1/2" and a nice load of wax melted onto the knuckle.. it looks pretty good too, sort of rugged...ok the rhinstones are a bit kisch ::) and maybe I should loose the Fedora?
Del
Title: Re: problem with feathers cutting my hand when shooting
Post by: El Destructo on July 18, 2010, 03:49:18 pm
Del..........ain't nuthin wrong with a Fedora........... ;D

and raising the Nocking Point an eighth of an inch makes a world of difference too...

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Title: Re: problem with feathers cutting my hand when shooting
Post by: colejack3 on July 18, 2010, 03:52:54 pm
hey  nice buck.   Ya Im going to put on a glove.   Also If its raining outside would it be ok for me to add the finish in the garage? Or would I be locking in to much mousture?
Title: Re: problem with feathers cutting my hand when shooting
Post by: El Destructo on July 18, 2010, 03:56:59 pm
Thanks....just got Him back from the Taxidermist two weeks ago....He looks good on My Bedroom Wall...... :P

If your wood is dry....straight out of an Air Conditioned House ...or Hot Box...the Moisture in the Air out in the Garage will not Hurt the Bow...the Finish will dry in 30 minutes to an hour....go for it...JMO
Title: Re: problem with feathers cutting my hand when shooting
Post by: George Tsoukalas on July 18, 2010, 11:28:04 pm
Skyve and wrap the leading edge. Should be fine. If it were a nock point issue the arrow would bounce of your hand and then you'd really shoot off your knuckle. Jawge
Title: Re: problem with feathers cutting my hand when shooting
Post by: AncientArcher76 on July 19, 2010, 12:00:45 am
I think some info above is correct not for every bow u need a rest I love shhooting off of my hand so to speak make some adjustments is the cock vein running directly over your hand also as mention simply try raising the arrow up or dropping ur hand slightly.  When in doubt then Id put a simple rest.  Post some pics

Russ
Title: Re: problem with feathers cutting my hand when shooting
Post by: colejack3 on July 20, 2010, 11:17:31 am
Wait so how much should I move the nocking point up from where the arrow usually should go. Like if I have the arrow exactly straight from the arrows nock to my knuckle how much do I need to move up the arrow nock?
Title: Re: problem with feathers cutting my hand when shooting
Post by: El Destructo on July 20, 2010, 05:48:22 pm
I set my nocking point 1/4" higher in the rear...them watch the way they fly...and hit...to see if they are hitting tail high or not...usually end up between 1/8" to 1/4" high at the nock when finished...but I am here to tell you...and the guys at Twin Oaks can attest to it....There is No Surer Way to Prevent This...Than to Make Sure that there are No Sharp Edges Showing on the Leading Edge...I about tore a Hole all the way to my Knuckle 2 years ago there...with a set of Arrows that I did not Gnurl and wrap the edge of the Feathers...and let me tell you...shooting the Course with a torn up Hand was no Fun....Pappy showed Me what to do...and no problems since....good luck...and sorry about the Rambling...too many night shifts...and no time off.... :P