Primitive Archer

Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Kegan on August 07, 2010, 01:27:26 pm

Title: "Talea"
Post by: Kegan on August 07, 2010, 01:27:26 pm
Finished this one up this morning, had it kicking around while I'm working on some take-downs. Sorta a love-hate relationship with this thing. It gave me a bunch of trouble as soon as I got the finish on. Sorry about the photos, should have waited until the sun was a little lower.

It's hot box cured hickory, 64" ntn. About 1 1/2" reflex after unbracing, it started with about 2 1/2" reflex after first bend once the sinew was dry. The narrow sinew band stops about 5" from the tips, but should have stopped it sooner. The limbs are 2", mostly pyramid taper to about 5/16" pin nocks. Slightly concave on the outer limbs. It's 59# at 28", 63# at my draw. Sinew is coated in TB III, and the finish is spar urethane. It's particularly light in the hand.

Very fast for the weight, almost as fast as "Black Betty" with the same arrows, but requires more effort to keep the same size groups. Started out as a selfbow, but a little light, so I shortened and backed it. Walnut stain, even up onto the sinew. It looked really primitive and old, but at the same time very simple, so I looked up the latin for "stick", talea. It would make a great close quarters hunting bow, and really shoots well at shorter draw lengths too.

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Post by: walkabout on August 07, 2010, 01:46:30 pm
love the front profile of it. finish also looks pretty cool.
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Post by: jeff halfrack on August 07, 2010, 01:48:11 pm
  man  your  stuff  is  in  a  class  all  it's  own!!!!!!!   I  like it JW
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Post by: straightarrow on August 07, 2010, 01:59:00 pm
Great job! I like the narrow tips and profile. I bet it zips an arrow....

Jon
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Post by: Pat B on August 07, 2010, 02:09:31 pm
You've come a long way Grasshopper!  ;) Very nice bow Kegan!  Almost perfect weight for my 26" draw.  ;D
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Post by: rileyconcrete on August 07, 2010, 03:58:20 pm
Great bow Kegan.

Really like the color.  What about those big snakes I sent you?  They must be getting ready for another bow.  Look forward to seeing what you do with them.

Tell
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Post by: hammertime on August 07, 2010, 04:19:40 pm
Great bow Kegan one of my favorites from you,I'd taker huntin' with me any day.well done Hammertime
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Post by: Del the cat on August 07, 2010, 04:59:46 pm
Sweet bow, nice profile, as usual ;D
Del
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Post by: aero86 on August 07, 2010, 05:32:53 pm
whats the dimensions on the handle/fade area.  ive got a stave that is almost exactly like that, and thats the style i was gonna go for!
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Post by: Parnell on August 07, 2010, 06:51:39 pm
Wow Kegan, that really looks like a bow that'll zip an arrow.  The tiller looks exempliary and I admire how you brought down the outer limbs while keeping them stiffer.  Way to go!
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Post by: elk country rp on August 07, 2010, 07:50:33 pm
wow, Kegan, gorgeous bow! seems like you've taken your skills to a whole new level!

Rob
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Post by: Kegan on August 07, 2010, 10:25:43 pm
Thanks eveyrone :)

Tell- I was going to put the longest skin you sent on this one, but it was a few inches short because I took the sinew a little too far. However, I have a couple neat idea projects that I'm looking forward to using them on.

Aero86- The handle is about 1" wide, 4 1/2" long, with 2 1/2" long fades. It's about 1 3/4" deep on average, I don't recal exactly.

Parnell- I've been starting all the roughed out staves as 1/2" thick pyramids. At 2", they start out pretty heavy, so I just thin the inner sections and narrow the outer. I'm getting lighter and lighter on each bow I do, with more and more concave a taper.

Rob- it's all the great influence on here, like your hickory/cherry laminate, and TBB vol. 4. Can't help but want to make 'em better after all that ;)
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Post by: Josh on August 07, 2010, 11:17:22 pm
Very Nice Kegan!  We'll see it again in the August Self Bow of the Month Contest too!  :)
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Post by: bowkee on August 07, 2010, 11:23:49 pm
Good work Kegan :)
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Post by: profsaffel on August 07, 2010, 11:59:06 pm
Great looking bow, as we've all come to expect from you.
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Post by: ken75 on August 08, 2010, 12:01:00 am
very nice , those light tips look like the flight bows !
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Post by: otis.drum on August 08, 2010, 03:40:30 am
great looking bow.

with exception of the handle it looks like a narrow andaman island bow. i have made a couple similar lately and love the design. have you considered doing a bend through the handle version of the same limb design?
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Post by: PeteC on August 08, 2010, 09:10:09 am
That's a great bow Kegan,I like it. God Bless
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Post by: finnfoto on August 08, 2010, 09:59:58 am
That Bow is awesome.  Any chance of getting measuremnts ?  lol      I love the color and the grip. 

I am litterly in awe.


Awesome work my friend.

Sam
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Post by: Timo on August 08, 2010, 10:10:25 am
Keag, your bows just keep getting better. I like that one a good bit!
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Post by: Dean Marlow on August 08, 2010, 10:18:03 am
Kegan that is an oustanding bow. I really like the design of this Hickory bow. Keep up the good work. And thanks for sharing. Dean
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Post by: Kegan on August 08, 2010, 01:51:53 pm
Thanks everyone :).

Otis- I prefer deep handled bows for the most part, unless I'm going for a specific design. I'm currently working on a shorter ambush style that will bend more through the grip though, and it might be more like the Andaman island bow you're talking about.

Sam- it's 64" ntn, 65" total. 2" wide for 10", tapering to 5/16" tips with a concave taper. It started out 1/2" thick , with most of the thinning taking place on the inner limbs.
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Post by: otis.drum on August 08, 2010, 06:25:28 pm
Kegan,
i would love to see a close up pic of the back of the limb, to see the colours and sinew.
also a shot of the under side of the limbs to see the profile.
and a close up of the limb tips would be interesting too... if you don't mind us seeing them that is.

i usually make my limbs convex on both side like an andaman bow (less curve on the back), and have never thought of making a concave/hollow belly limb profile. might have to have a look into that.


thanks

otis
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Post by: RyanY on August 08, 2010, 09:07:23 pm
Beautiful. I love those narrow tips.  ;D
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Post by: mullet on August 08, 2010, 09:15:05 pm
 Kegan, nice bow and I love that profile. You're starting to get down into my shooting range.
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Post by: NTD on August 08, 2010, 09:16:37 pm
Great looking Bow Kegan!  I like how you've refined your skills while still maintaining the caveman look ;)
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Post by: medicinewheel on August 09, 2010, 04:57:31 am
Kegan, nice bow and I love that profile. You're starting to get down into my shooting range.

Same here!  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Kegan on August 09, 2010, 05:56:27 pm
Thanks everyone :)
 
Otis- here's the color, the taper, and the tip. The belly taper is pyramid, more or less, and won't show up in a picture as anything special. Hope these help.

Eddie- I'm getting more and more comfortable at 65-70# with a 600 gr arrow. As my bows get better, the speed is starting to get faster than any of the bows I had done over that too. Best of both worlds :)

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Post by: otis.drum on August 10, 2010, 08:57:40 am
thanks Kegan, those tips sure are fine  :)
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Post by: majsnuff on August 10, 2010, 01:53:28 pm
Now THAT is a great looking bow. Love the front profile.. nice job very nice.
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Post by: Kegan on August 11, 2010, 03:33:49 pm
Thanks guys :) I put the bow quiver I made on it and it makes a world of difference. With that little bit of extra weight in the hand it's a really nice hunting bow. Might have to make another bow quiver or two after seeing this ;)