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Title: Rattan - Kid's Bow - Ciqala
Post by: Matthias Wiltschko on August 12, 2010, 05:00:57 am
Hi folks!

This one I made for a 4-year old, and it works pretty well. Last time i checked he he had killed a window of their barn.

length: 40"
drawweight: 10#@20"

(http://www.bogenbau-wiltschko.at/pix/boegen/ciqala/Traditioneller%20Bogenbau%20Matthias%20Wiltschko%20Ciqala%202.JPG)
(http://www.bogenbau-wiltschko.at/pix/boegen/ciqala/Traditioneller%20Bogenbau%20Matthias%20Wiltschko%20Ciqala%20.JPG)
(http://www.bogenbau-wiltschko.at/pix/boegen/ciqala/Traditioneller%20Bogenbau%20Matthias%20Wiltschko%20Ciqala%201.JPG)
(http://www.bogenbau-wiltschko.at/pix/boegen/ciqala/Traditioneller%20Bogenbau%20Matthias%20Wiltschko%20Ciqala%203.JPG)
http://www.bogenbau-wiltschko.at/ciqala.html

Matthias
Title: Re: Rattan - Kid's Bow - Ciqala
Post by: osage outlaw on August 12, 2010, 06:58:54 am
That has to be one of the coolest kids bow that I have ever seen.  Amazing.
Title: Re: Rattan - Kid's Bow - Ciqala
Post by: Pappy on August 12, 2010, 07:52:29 am
Very cool,I love that one.Lucky kid.  :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: Rattan - Kid's Bow - Ciqala
Post by: denny on August 12, 2010, 10:21:54 am
I am about to build one, maybe many for kids. Where do you get your rattan? and do you heat treat it to flip the tips :? Denny By the way nice job....I like the finish on it...
Title: Re: Rattan - Kid's Bow - Ciqala
Post by: Cromm on August 12, 2010, 10:22:48 am
Great looking bow.
Title: Re: Rattan - Kid's Bow - Ciqala
Post by: Josh on August 12, 2010, 10:46:34 am
Very Nice Bow!  Is it made out of one piece or is it two glued together into that shape and then tillered?   :)
Title: Re: Rattan - Kid's Bow - Ciqala
Post by: walkabout on August 12, 2010, 10:49:14 am
very cool, great finish for a rattan bow.
Title: Re: Rattan - Kid's Bow - Ciqala
Post by: n2huntn on August 12, 2010, 11:29:37 am
Very nice, lucky kid.
Jeff
Title: Re: Rattan - Kid's Bow - Ciqala
Post by: NTD on August 12, 2010, 12:30:45 pm
BUILD-A-LONG would be awesome.
Title: Re: Rattan - Kid's Bow - Ciqala
Post by: KenH on August 12, 2010, 12:59:51 pm
On ATARN a couple years ago someone posted a French Bowyer's all rattan, Steppe style selfbow, with beautiful recurved siyahs, etc. that drew around 80# @28" if memory serves.    I for one would sure like to see a how-to on making something like that - or even this beautiful kid's bow.  Working with rattan has to be significantly different that working with wood.

Steilpassfänger, enlighten us please!!!
Title: Re: Rattan - Kid's Bow - Ciqala
Post by: jonathan creason on August 12, 2010, 01:24:17 pm
That's awesome!  I hope my son doesn't see this, or he'll be telling me the one I just made isn't nearly good enough.
Title: Re: Rattan - Kid's Bow - Ciqala
Post by: George Tsoukalas on August 12, 2010, 01:33:11 pm
Awesome bow! Jawge
Title: Re: Rattan - Kid's Bow - Ciqala
Post by: walkabout on August 12, 2010, 02:51:20 pm
i agree with ken a build along would be very cool.
Title: Re: Rattan - Kid's Bow - Ciqala
Post by: gpw on August 12, 2010, 07:46:30 pm
We used to buy rattan from 1-800- 4 bamboo... I believe it was in NY... very reasonable , and they had bamboo for bow making too ...
Title: Re: Rattan - Kid's Bow - Ciqala
Post by: acker on August 13, 2010, 05:42:51 am
Nice bow Matthias  :)

buildalong :
http://bogenbau-broken-arrow.de/downloads/builtarattanbowenglish.pdf (http://bogenbau-broken-arrow.de/downloads/builtarattanbowenglish.pdf)

acker
Title: Re: Rattan - Kid's Bow - Ciqala
Post by: KenH on August 13, 2010, 09:13:57 am
Acker - that's a fabulous build-along.  Much Thanks!!!
Title: Re: Rattan - Kid's Bow - Ciqala
Post by: jonathan creason on August 13, 2010, 09:23:38 am
Acker - that's a fabulous build-along.  Much Thanks!!!

Agreed, thanks for putting that up.  Got it saved for future reference.
Title: Re: Rattan - Kid's Bow - Ciqala
Post by: walkabout on August 13, 2010, 03:02:25 pm
thanks for posting that link, i now have a rattan bow added to my to do list. looks very cool too, never wouldve thought rattan would make a full weight bow.
Title: Re: Rattan - Kid's Bow - Ciqala
Post by: PeteC on August 13, 2010, 10:01:53 pm
That is a great little bow Matthias.My first grandchild is on the way and I've been gleaning ideas for childrens bows.Yours is right at the top of my list.Awesome job. God Bless
Title: Re: Rattan - Kid's Bow - Ciqala
Post by: youngbowyer33 on August 14, 2010, 06:33:43 pm
sweet
Title: Re: Rattan - Kid's Bow - Ciqala
Post by: NTD on August 14, 2010, 06:38:05 pm
Matthias,

It looks like you used the rind for the back of the bow no?  Torges uses the rind for the belly.  Any thoughts to the advantages of doing one way or the other.  I'd really like to try a sinew backed one of these in the mid 40's.
Title: Re: Rattan - Kid's Bow - Ciqala
Post by: Matthias Wiltschko on August 20, 2010, 05:02:46 am
Thank you all!

@denny
I get my Rattan from Germany

@Josh
It is one little piece and I made the curves with the heatgun

@KenH
Yes, working with Rattan is not to compare with woodworking, Rattan is very light and has very long fibres.

@NTD
I used the outside of the rattan for the back of the bow. Torges is right in using the outside of the Rattan for the belly, because it is harder and better under compression. But I like the looks more the way i did it.

Matthias