Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: DirtyDan on August 23, 2010, 09:32:53 am
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Well, I have been using this technique on kids' bows for quite a while, so I decided to make a full-sized bow by splitting a hickory blank and gluing it back to its other half. I glued in a slight reflex using TB III, then glued on a handle and tips made of different colored woods. It is 58 1/2" ntn, and pulls 45 at 27". It is a smooth, sweet shooter.(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/spiermo/hickory%20backed%20hickory/DSC_0239.jpg)(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/spiermo/hickory%20backed%20hickory/DSC_0234.jpg)(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/spiermo/hickory%20backed%20hickory/DSC_0226.jpg)(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/spiermo/hickory%20backed%20hickory/DSC_0225.jpg)(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/spiermo/hickory%20backed%20hickory/DSC_0223.jpg)
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Hey Dan,
I too like the "self-backed" bows, and the hickory backed hickory makes for a really tough bow. Ya got some nice lines going on it for sure, nice bow and 45# is plenty for deer (w/ good sharp heads and good shootin)
rich
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Thanks, Rich. I forgot to tell you all that Doug Bell, my bow-building buddy, put the stain and finish on this bow. I was knocked out by what a great job he did, using oil stain and wipe-on poly.
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Very Nice Bow!! Got it Bookmarked for August Backed Bow of the Month Contest too. :)
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Thanks, Josh. I am glad that you took over the BOM job. Well done.
Dan
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Way to go Dan, nice bow.
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Thank you Dan. It has been pretty fun so far. :)
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Nice work as usuall Dan.Cool looking bow. :)
Pappy
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Very nice. So what are the advantages of this technique compared to just a stave hickory bow? Is it because you can glue in reflex easier.
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The same advantages you get from doing any laminated bow. Reflex induced from gluing is different from reflex by heat. Reflexing by heat puts stress on wood. According to Baker, glued in reflex actually reduces stress. This Theory is talked about at length in the TBB's.
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I think you should have added a Hickory core too ::)
But seriously, cool bow, V pretty.
Del
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Very nice work, love that hickory.
Jeff
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The same advantages you get from doing any laminated bow. Reflex induced from gluing is different from reflex by heat. Reflexing by heat puts stress on wood. According to Baker, glued in reflex actually reduces stress. This Theory is talked about at length in the TBB's.
Hmm, must have missed it. Is this in the 4th edition when they talk laminated? Guess I need to go back thru it.
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I think it's TBB 3. You can also do a search here for "Perry" reflex.
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Nice bow, hickory backed hickory is a proven good combo. A lot of flight records were set using it. Steve
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Thanks, everyone. Yes, I think that I did read about this technique in TBB, but I don't remember which volume. I make a lot of kids bows this way because they are virtually unbreakable. Take a thin piece of hickory some time and see how far it bends and still will not break. These bows are really smooth, have no stack, and if you taper each half of the lamination before you glue it up, it tillers very easily. My next attempt is going to be on a hickory sapling. I am going to split it, flatten it, tiller each half and then glue it together--maybe with hide glue even, and see what happens. You never run out of things to try in this business.
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Nice looking bow, and no set for a relatively short bow. How much reflex did you glue in?
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Nice Bow Dan!!! did you run a lam on the back of the handle???? I like it I would like to see the belly Thanks Jeff W
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Great looking bow Dan! What size did you cut down? I read an article I think in PA a few months back where someone was using fully 1/4-sawn boards and he cut off about 1/4" and then glued it back on in place. Just wondering if you cut your piece right in half or did something like what I mentioned where you only cut off 1/4" or so.
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Dragonman, about 5" of reflex glued in. Jeff, I use what I call a "lock-in" lam to keep my glued on handles from splitting off. It works pretty good. Sting, I started with a 5/8" thick piece of hickory lumber, resawed it on my bandsaw and sanded about a 1/4" taper to both pieces together before glue-up.(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/spiermo/hickory%20backed%20hickory/DSC_0229.jpg)
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Thanks Dan I some body put a "huh" face on my question I'm glad you understood it! the picture from the new angel is fantastic!!!!!!!!! you bow is one of the freshest Ideas I've seen in a while Please keep them comming!! how about a build-along please thanks SO much JeffW
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The bow looks great Dan. I'd love to see a squared up full draw pic so we can really admire your tiller.
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That is a killer,nice bow
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Beautiful bow, the color is outstanding. I second Jeff on the build-a-long. Do you glue these bows up the same as they do with glass laminated bows?
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I've never made a laminate bow in my life, but if I ever decide to I'm coming back to this post.
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Thanks, guys. Steve, I use TB III glue and set the bow up on three blocks, similar to Dean Torges' setup in his video on Bamboo backing. One block in the center and two at the ends. Then just bend the two lams down to whatever set you want, glue them there and they will dry pretty much the way you put them together. You can do reflex/deflex or just plain reflex, depending upon the height of your middle block. Use plenty of clamps. I use one about every two inches.
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Thank you Dan. Once again,beautiful bow.