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Title: 56 1/2" white oak bendy bow
Post by: Pat B on April 23, 2007, 12:35:39 am
This is another light weight bow that I made recently. 56 1/2" t/t, 35#@24" She is 1 1/8 at the handle and 3/4" at the tips. Bend through the handle and my first attempt at heat treating the belly of a bow. Because of the thickness of the wood she is a bit sluggish but will be a good bow for a kid to abuse and enjoy. This white oak is from the same tree as my Friendship bow. I had this short piece left so here is what came of it.   Pat

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Title: Re: 56 1/2" white oak bendy bow
Post by: Coo-wah-chobee on April 23, 2007, 12:47:54 am
      I like it.You done good, betcha it will take small game. Nice job Pat............bob
Title: Re: 56 1/2" white oak bendy bow
Post by: Justin Snyder on April 23, 2007, 12:51:44 am
Looks like a durable bow.  At 35# it is only 5# under a big game bow.  Justin
Title: Re: 56 1/2" white oak bendy bow
Post by: Pat B on April 23, 2007, 01:24:46 am
I'm having a blast making these light bows. I'm just gonna hand this one to a kid that doesn't have a bow at one of the shoots I go to this year. It will be more fun watching his(or her) face than building the bow. Thats how I met Tom Brennan and his son Lil Pat. Patrick still has that little osage sapwood "Indian" bow.    We gotta keep passing it on!!! ;)    Pat
Title: Re: 56 1/2" white oak bendy bow
Post by: Dustybaer on April 23, 2007, 08:06:16 am
neat bow, i like it.  how did the heat treating go?  how did the white oak take it?
Title: Re: 56 1/2" white oak bendy bow
Post by: Hillbilly on April 23, 2007, 08:47:00 am
Looks good, Pat. Those little Indian bows are deceptively efficient, too.
Title: Re: 56 1/2" white oak bendy bow
Post by: Marc St Louis on April 23, 2007, 08:50:06 am
Nice Pat
Title: Re: 56 1/2" white oak bendy bow
Post by: GregB on April 23, 2007, 08:52:02 am
Good looking primitive style bow Pat! Some kid is really going to be excited to get that one! Great for you to pass it on. :)
Title: Re: 56 1/2" white oak bendy bow
Post by: Pat B on April 23, 2007, 11:04:47 am
Marius. I have never done a heat treatment so I didn't know what to expect but she took a little set anyway. I have made other white oak ALB types that shot fine. I whipped this one out in less than an hour just wasting some time.    Pat
Title: Re: 56 1/2" white oak bendy bow
Post by: Dustybaer on April 23, 2007, 11:17:25 am
what you might wanna do on the next one is slightly bend her backwards while you give her the heat treatment.  she might loose a good bit of the reflex you induce, but you will still come out ahead.
Title: Re: 56 1/2" white oak bendy bow
Post by: Pat B on April 23, 2007, 11:47:59 am
I'll try it again on another bow someday. I figured with this one I didn't have much to loose.  Pat
Title: Re: 56 1/2" white oak bendy bow
Post by: DanaM on April 23, 2007, 11:51:14 am
I agree some kid will one happy camper when you gift him/her with that little beauty.

DanaM
Title: Re: 56 1/2" white oak bendy bow
Post by: George Tsoukalas on April 23, 2007, 12:12:52 pm
Excellent bow, Pat. Nice tiller. Jawge
Title: Re: 56 1/2" white oak bendy bow
Post by: OldBow on April 23, 2007, 01:21:33 pm
Another nice Bow. And Primitive! Bookmarked for April Self Bow of the Month, of course!
Title: Re: 56 1/2" white oak bendy bow
Post by: a finnish native on April 23, 2007, 01:55:31 pm
  At 35# it is only 5# under a big game bow.  Justin

say what you will, but I'd never go after an elk or a bear, deer, moose or so on, with a bow under 55#.
don't get me wrong though. just saying my opinion.

great looking primitive bow there. what tools did you use?
Title: Re: 56 1/2" white oak bendy bow
Post by: Pat B on April 23, 2007, 02:00:03 pm
Santtu, I use a rasp and scraper to build this and most of my bows.
   I believe a person should use as strong of a bow as they can comfortably shoot while hunting. I usually shoot around 55#@26".  In some states 35# is the minimum draw weight for big game hunting.
   Pat
Title: Re: 56 1/2" white oak bendy bow
Post by: PepeLep on April 23, 2007, 02:42:32 pm
say what you will, but I'd never go after an elk or a bear, deer, moose or so on, with a bow under 55#.
don't get me wrong though. just saying my opinion.

My dad killed several deer with a 45# recurve.
Title: Re: 56 1/2" white oak bendy bow
Post by: DanaM on April 23, 2007, 03:14:11 pm
I will most likely be using a 45# bow for deer season this fall. 2 bad shoulders can't pull much.
I had to much fun as a teenager and am now paying the price.

DanaM
Title: Re: 56 1/2" white oak bendy bow
Post by: D. Tiller on April 23, 2007, 04:57:41 pm
Hmmm! The Native Americans here in the Northwest went after Grizlies with 40# and 45# bows. The trick is in the arrow. Bird points! Small obsidian points penitrate like crazy! Arrows will go in one side and out the other. Bear has no idea they are hit so you can put a couple more through before he even know he is dead or just sit back and leat em blead out.

Personaly, I have no nead or want to hunt bear. Look to much like a big ol dog to me! Plus, I dont think they taste too good!  ;D

By the way nice bow Pat! How the heck do you get so much time to make bows? Please tell us your secret!
Title: Re: 56 1/2" white oak bendy bow
Post by: Pat B on April 23, 2007, 05:13:06 pm
David, with lots of screw ups in the "corner" most don't take much work to finish once the cobwebs are cleared...on the bows and in my head. ;D    Pat
Title: Re: 56 1/2" white oak bendy bow
Post by: Hillbilly on April 23, 2007, 05:14:14 pm
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Plus, I dont think they taste too good!

Bear meat is delicious in my opinion, at least the ones we have here. I've ate lots of it over the years. I remember my dad telling me about killing one when he was living in Washington that had been eating salmon, he said it was fishy, nasty, and almost inedible.
Title: Re: 56 1/2" white oak bendy bow
Post by: Coo-wah-chobee on April 23, 2007, 06:06:24 pm
............Iam with Hillbilly on this. Bear meat is delicious. I marinate steaks an roasts in mango or wild oranges. If don't have that applejuice will work fine. Over a campfire its a great meal. Fok's I  hunt with draw knives(obsidian of course) when last piece is left. Yummy! Oh well back to "the primitive food network" :D :D.......bob
Title: Re: 56 1/2" white oak bendy bow
Post by: AndrewS on April 23, 2007, 07:04:05 pm
I haven't taste bear but I like the bow ;)

Fine work of a  bend in the handle bow.
Title: Re: 56 1/2" white oak bendy bow
Post by: D. Tiller on April 23, 2007, 07:35:32 pm
Anyone have a spare bear steak sitting arround? Maybe I'm missing something.  ;D
Title: Re: 56 1/2" white oak bendy bow
Post by: Pat B on April 23, 2007, 07:59:38 pm
Thanks Andrew. I definitely won't be using this bow for bear hunting.  Pat
Title: Re: 56 1/2" white oak bendy bow
Post by: DanaM on April 23, 2007, 08:26:04 pm
Yup bear roast is good eats, unless its a dump bear. One thing about bear its kinda like a pig once the skin is
off it looks like a person hangin there always gives me da creeps.

DanaM
Title: Re: 56 1/2" white oak bendy bow
Post by: Traxx on April 23, 2007, 08:46:20 pm
I shure do like lookin,at pics of yer stuff Pat.
Thanxx fer postin.
Title: Re: 56 1/2" white oak bendy bow
Post by: Hillbilly on April 23, 2007, 09:07:26 pm
Sorry for "bearing " off at a tangent, Pat. Didn't mean to hijack your thread :)
Title: Re: 56 1/2" white oak bendy bow
Post by: PepeLep on April 23, 2007, 10:09:06 pm
Didn't mean to hijack your thread :)

I can hardly "bear" it when that happens.
Title: Re: 56 1/2" white oak bendy bow
Post by: Dale on April 23, 2007, 10:22:48 pm
Pretty cool.  I really starting to like bend in the handle bows.
Title: Re: 56 1/2" white oak bendy bow
Post by: Pat B on April 24, 2007, 12:13:27 am
These bend through the handle bows will surprise you. They can be quite effective.  I was reading an old issue of PA tonight about...The Simple "D" Bow, by Greg Harris(vol2 issue3). I have made a few of them and will continue to make more.  I want to see how simple I can make it and still be effective. Make something from nothing ya know! ;)
  Steve, I bearly noticed the deviation.  ::)
Thankxx Traxx for looking!  ;)     Pat
Title: Re: 56 1/2" white oak bendy bow
Post by: D. Tiller on April 24, 2007, 12:55:21 am
Love them D bows! I make some English Warbows that bend through the handle and they really can toss them with authority. Though a flat belly and backed D bows style may be more effective at lower weight bows up to 70#. English over 90# and up they tame armored knights and put them to bed!  ;D

Be neat to compare a 100# Indian style D bow to a 100# English D bow. Wonder which would shoot better?
Title: Re: 56 1/2" white oak bendy bow
Post by: Pat B on April 24, 2007, 01:04:48 am
I'm working on a yew war bow now. I have it bending just past brace height but I can't brace it. ;D Gotta make me a jig! 
  David, That might be another good project for JD.  ;D  Pat
Title: Re: 56 1/2" white oak bendy bow
Post by: D. Tiller on April 24, 2007, 01:07:48 am
Think he might be up to the challenge? I dont know he may not be getting enough sleap at night from what I hear!  ;D
Title: Re: 56 1/2" white oak bendy bow
Post by: Hillbilly on April 24, 2007, 08:45:06 am
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Steve, I bearly noticed the deviation. 
Good, I'm glad I didn't bruin it for everbody :)
Title: Re: 56 1/2" white oak bendy bow
Post by: snedeker on April 24, 2007, 10:23:14 am
Ya know I like those bows and thats a fine one. I've been thinking of cutting down another white oak.  You've been busy.

Dave