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Title: Billy got a BIG doe!
Post by: billy on October 15, 2010, 10:59:30 pm
HEy guys,

I got this big doe last Saturday, but I was having trouble posting the pics.  So here's my second attempt.  Got her with my osage longbow, rivercane arrow and stone point made of heat treated novaculite from Arkansas.  She was feeding in a turnip patch when I shot her at about 7 or 8 yards.  I was in a stand, and hit her just above and slightly behind her left elbow.  When she ran off I was concerned because there was a lot of arrow sticking out of her.  She fled about 90 yards across the food plot then disappeared into the woods.  We backed off and gave her 3 hours just to be sure before tracking.  Well, it was unnecessary because we found her about 45 yards inside the woodline, stone dead.  Turns out the stone point went between two ribs on entry, cut thru both lungs, the top of the heart, and shattered the #4 rib on the far side.  I actually found the small middle section of the stone point in the top of the deer's heart when I performed the autopsy.  We weighed her before field dressing and she tipped the scales at 178 lbs.  The pictures don't do her justice....she was BIG.

The stone point was a short, kinda stubby point made from a thin flake, but it wasn't particularly pretty or symmetrical.  It was kind of expediently made, but it was finely serrated and very sharp.  It was a bit larger than my typical bird points....it was 3/4 inch wide and 3/4 inch long.  It was hafted with pine sap glue and sinew.  Even though the point shattered the rib and then stayed in the deer for about 100 yards as she ran off, the point was still held as securely as though I had used epoxy.  Also, the far shoulder was a mess of bruising and coagulated blood.....I was shocked when I saw how much bleeding had occurred because it looked like I shot her with a high powered rifle.  I find it pretty impressive that a primitive bow and stone tipped arrow was capable of that kind of damage. You can see it in the pics, along with the broken rib and the stone point I got her with. 

Here are the specs on my equipment :  Osage self bow, 52 lbs at 30" (although I didn't quite reach full draw), rivercane arrow with short dogwood foreshaft weighing 520 grains, and stone point made of novaculite.  Oh, and to top it off, I self filmed the whole thing and got it on video!!! 

Hunting with primitive stuff is a real thrill....I LOVE it!! Hope ya'll enjoy....

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Post by: PeteC on October 15, 2010, 11:02:37 pm
Congrats on your success Billy.God Bless
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Post by: sailordad on October 16, 2010, 12:58:21 am
damn that tore her up
nice job billy

if my memory serves me right,it wasnt all that long ago you psoted your first primitive kill
a bunny i think it was,now your getting them king daddy rabbits  ;)
good for you,keep at it
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Post by: nugget on October 16, 2010, 08:31:50 am
WOW. nice job
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Post by: JW_Halverson on October 16, 2010, 03:11:07 pm
Hey Billy,

I personally want to thank you for posting this photo as well as all the other work you are doing to document the efficacy of stone heads.  While I know it is hopeless to change the laws here where I live, I enjoy fact based reporting of your experiences.  This is much better than simple conjecture, anecdotes, and wild ash guess work.

John Halverson
Black Hills, South Dakota
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Post by: John K on October 16, 2010, 03:16:00 pm
Congrats Billy ! Some great eating there !!
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Post by: Key on October 16, 2010, 03:59:11 pm
Good job Bill, congrats!
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Post by: Pat B on October 16, 2010, 05:00:09 pm
Excellent Billy. Was that a GA deer? If so she really was big. 178# is a good sized buck in the S. E. US.
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Post by: lowell on October 16, 2010, 11:03:14 pm
Very nice...... congrats !!!!!! :)
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Post by: TRACY on October 17, 2010, 09:58:29 am
Awesome job Billy!!! Love your passion and intensity for primitive bows/arrows! That doe is as big as some of our corn fed bucks in IN! Good eats! I'm really encouraged by the size of the point you made and used- very effective.

Take care

Tracy
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Post by: Pappy on October 18, 2010, 07:12:20 am
Nice job billy,very nice doe.
   Pappy
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Post by: cracker on October 18, 2010, 08:21:51 am
Good job welll done those stone points pack a reall wallop.Ron
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Post by: mullet on October 18, 2010, 09:16:02 am
 Congratulations, Billy. Those are cool pictures, that head really messed her up.
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Post by: Postman on October 18, 2010, 10:42:54 am
WOW that's a big doe! congrats on the kill and getting great data on stone points. Are you posting the video? What kind of camera / setup did you use? I would like to try and film my hunts.  Thinking of strapping a 2 hour flipcam to a headband.... ;D
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Post by: BearG on October 18, 2010, 11:01:18 am
Good jog Billy.  Great doe by a great guy
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Post by: Big A on October 18, 2010, 12:44:21 pm
Way to go Billy.
Big A
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Post by: Thwackaddict on October 18, 2010, 01:25:31 pm
Congrats and way to go with the stone head!!Looks like it done the trick!
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Post by: Parnell on October 18, 2010, 03:19:37 pm
That does look like a healthy doe, what a great harvest!  Congratulations, Billy!
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Post by: billy on October 19, 2010, 01:44:52 am
Thanks guys! 

For the filming I used a little Sony standard definition video camera that records on mini DV tapes.  However, the picture quality is very poor in low light, which is a problem when filming hunts because that's usually the time when the animals show up.  I am working on getting a much better camera that is much better in low light.  My dad has one, it's a Sony high definition video camera and it is EXCELLENT in low light, but it records to a hard drive and it also records in a different format (16:9 widescreen).  Because I am filming my hunts to compile footage for a primitive bowhunting DVD, I want the format to stay consistent throughout the DVD, so for now I am sticking with the little handycam.  But when I get the first DVD completed, then I think I'll switch to the High Definition widescreen format and go with that for the 2nd DVD.

 
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Post by: Postman on October 19, 2010, 02:07:25 pm
Cool   -  good luck!
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Post by: Lee Lobbestael on October 21, 2010, 03:02:44 pm
I have seen some of your other hunts on you tube! I love em! Is this one up yet?
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Post by: GregB on October 22, 2010, 08:06:47 am
Can't do it any better then that! Quite an accomplistment, congrats!
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Post by: jamie on October 23, 2010, 08:56:18 am
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: cowboy on October 23, 2010, 10:28:10 am
That's finer than frog hair billy! Glad to hear it ;).
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Post by: juniper junkie on November 01, 2010, 11:34:41 am
congrats Billy. I know you have been trying hard. cant wait to see the video.
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Post by: Sparrow on November 04, 2010, 10:56:11 am
Hey thanks for sharing and the pictures. I guess that better explains  those broken pieces of points I  see laying around when I am in the happy hunting grounds, and why you find so many bases around campsites. A picture says a thousand words.  '  Frank
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Post by: hawkbow on November 06, 2010, 03:44:45 pm
Good on you brother, a long time coming. great harvest and well deserved..... Hawk