Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: ken75 on October 20, 2010, 05:47:35 pm
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this mornin my wife woke me and said someone was in the driveway blowin the horn . i throw my rob on and go out , one of the florida hunters in my area is out there and he tells me theres a doe hit just up the road if i want it and she is still alive. i asked him why he didnt get her ,he said i got one yesterday and dont need anymore meat.
well i went back inside and told my wife what he said , and it dawned on me that he didnt put her down. couldnt stand the thought of a wounded animal so i went up the road expecting to find a dead deer. when i got there she had her head up looking around but her back was broke and she couldnt get up. so i ended it and put her in the freezer.
this is not a dig on florida hunters ,this guy just happened to be from there. i couldnt belive that he drove by her twice and didnt do anything to end her suffering. just goes to show ya it takes all kinds to make this green thing spin.
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Well, on the bright side Ken, she probably wasn't hurting at all since her back was broke, she probably was numb, just scared of what was coming next. I know where you're coming from, but perhaps the guy was trying to make sure somebody got fresh meat, instead of offering them to go collect road kill. If it's still alive I guess it technically ain't road kill since you're the one that kills it. It doesn't sound like a good deal for the deer - I agree. But at least it was alive until it went fresh into your freezer. Had he killed it, and then went looking for someone that might have wanted it, by the time he found someone the meat might have already been spoiled. Just a thought. But I agree, for the deer's sake it would've been better sooner than later. Although I've come to believe that animals are a lot braver than humans in the face of pain and death.
CP
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ya im thinking the same way as cacatch
he probably didnt want to offer up road kill so as to speak
let whom ever wants it put it down and its fresher ;)
gotta ask though,how much meat was damaged from the vehicle that hit her?
one would tend to think a lot of the meat in the area the impact was would be blood shot
just curious
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I have to agree with sailordad and cacatch. It is a lot easier to talk someone into going after a live one than road kill.
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I'm another in agreement here. But to add to it: here in PA, you'd get fined for killing a deer on the road like that, wounded or not :(
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One year here in Florida I got two just like that. I had to put my truck between the deer and the highway so I didn't upset anybody when I hit her in the head with a hammer. Florida has a road kill number you can call, give them your hunting license and where it happened and it's yours.
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Here in Ky, you'd get a ticket for putting her down. Depending on how the warden was feeling that day, you could get a handful of tickets and loose your hunting rights for up to 2 years.
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That's stupid. ::)
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here in minnesota its a little of both
you would get in trouble for doing it
if you didnt call the dnr and have them come out and watch you tag it
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I agree that it is just plain stupidity that a concerned citizen would be in legal jeopardy for dispatching a wounded animal in the ditch. You will never catch me doing it.
Of course not, I police my brass, obscure my license plate, check over both shoulders, and wipe down all prints. >:D
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cacatch , tim, maybe thats a better way to look at it . just seemed to me he didnt want to be bothered with another deer
tim there was very little bloodshot at the top of both hips but didnt have any effect on the meat i just sliced it off and it didnt get into the backstrap
as far as getting in trouble for doing the right thing . so be it id give my license up with a clear conscience
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ive often wonderd how much meat gets ruined on an animal when it gets hit by a vehicle
granted some seem to explode when hit
but others seem to just bounce off and die in the ditch
ive come across fresh road kill turkeys,still warm to the touch and no rigor has set in
but never take the carcass(not just cause it would be illegal) but never knew how much meat would be good
i just take the wings and tail (thats legal here) and leave the rest
i think the next fresh road kill ground buzzard i come across,i will bring home
you know just for scientific gathering of data ;)
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I wish you could apply for a license to possess ground kill feathers here in FL. I see more dead vultures, hawks, cranes, herons, etc. than I care to. A shame to see it be wasted, but, understand why they are trying to enforce strict rules. I just think there should be an option to provide some useful respect to a wasted animal.
Job well done, Ken.
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No problem in TN.I kind go by the don't ask don't tell rule. ;) ;D ;D I have done it several times,sometime the meat has a lot of blood shot in it,but usually just one side,sometimes
none at all. That is just the chance you take,use what is good and discard the rest. :) Can't stand to see them just lay there. :)
Pappy
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No problem in TN.I kind go by the don't ask don't tell rule. ;) ;D ;D I have done it several times,sometime the meat has a lot of blood shot in it,but usually just one side,sometimes
none at all. That is just the chance you take,use what is good and discard the rest. :) Can't stand to see them just lay there. :)
Pappy
Hate to think of all the deer Ive ate with Ford or GM or BMW branded into hide!
Like Pappy said....generally lose a quater, half generally at worst....sometimes a headshot and you get the whole deer.
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I wish you could apply for a license to possess ground kill feathers here in FL. I see more dead vultures, hawks, cranes, herons, etc. than I care to. A shame to see it be wasted, but, understand why they are trying to enforce strict rules. I just think there should be an option to provide some useful respect to a wasted animal.
Job well done, Ken.
Next time you want to respect a creature lying dead on the road, stop and put a little tobacco over it. It is a sign of respect.
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That's a lot of tobacco, grunt. ;)
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i hear ya Eddie their picking peanuts here which increases the deer traffic across the roads.
Pappy i was brought up the same way !
tim i hit one last year and there wasnt any meat damage ,just knocked the downy feathers off. i was busy watching about 30 in the ditch and three more ran out of the field across the road looked like a feather bomb went off . ate the meat fletched some arrows
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It is best to use the gutless method to salvage road kill if it was struck in the body because the guts explode.
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Ya it sucks that you cant pick up road kill legaly in most states, My grandfather told me when he worked for animal control that he often brought home road kill deer and would take the good meat. One time my dad hit a rooster, it went under the car and it looked like some one busted open a feather pillow, my cousin and I were cracking up. :D :D :D
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You ought to see a duck when it goes through the Prop of an airboat. :o ;D
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Tobacco is to high,I will respect them by eating them and using there parts for something
useful. :) I guess if I were an N/A I might do that Grunt, but since I ant ,I don't. :)
Pappy
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Ya I always hate it when I am running down the road and suddenly see a possum in the middle of the road,try and straddle it and about half way over it you hear a thump,I always think,man you should have kept your head down. :)
Pappy
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I know a fella that works at Ft. Campbell. I knew that he hunted so one day I asked him, "How many you got this year?" "Eight," he responded. I went on and on over him killing eight deer that early in the season. "Killed? Who said killed? I've only killed one. I picked the other 7 up on the way to work," he replied. I thought that was pretty good.
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In lean times I've fed my family with car hit deer like that. I'm not sure what the law is in GA. But I've had the warden help me load them up before. Around here you would get talked about for letting it suffer.Ron
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hope i dont sound ignorant here, but i really dont know what the law is around here. i just know that its my personal law not to just stand by and let something suffer. :-\
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What I said about putting tobacco down works pretty good for us folks following the Red Road. Having said that though just means I have a little different prospective of our natural world and man's place in it.
I have stopped and ended a critters suffering more than once. Good reason to have a carry permit.
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Trey, If you can go on this site you can also look up Louisianna's hunting site for the Reg's. Remember when they are writing that ticket, "Ignorance of the Law is no excuse". ;)
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well regardless of personal beliefs and laws im smoking the hams on her in the morning marinated with italian dressing and i can only imagine the tender venison sandwhiches thats going to be meals for a few days. dang im getting hungry just thinking about it. thanks to all that replied this has been an interesting post into peoples personal beliefs .