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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Marc St Louis on November 22, 2010, 12:42:34 pm

Title: Elm Static Recurve
Post by: Marc St Louis on November 22, 2010, 12:42:34 pm
Not very often I make this style of bow anymore and it's been awhile since I have made one but I was recently asked to make 2 of them.  The Elm I used for this one is not that dense but it sure is elastic.  I heat-treated almost 9" of reflex into this bow including the recurves, and it kept most of it.  Makes for bracing this bow an exercise in itself.  The bow is 63" N to N with limbs just over 1 1/2" wide and pulls a bit more than 55# @ 28".  I shot it with a 600 grain arrow and it is fast.  Here's some pictures

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/Marc-St-Louis/Selfbows/Elm%20Bows/Static%20Recurve%20for%20Christian/Composite.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/Marc-St-Louis/Selfbows/Elm%20Bows/Static%20Recurve%20for%20Christian/Handle.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/Marc-St-Louis/Selfbows/Elm%20Bows/Static%20Recurve%20for%20Christian/FullDraw.jpg)
Title: Re: Elm Static Recurve
Post by: M-P on November 22, 2010, 12:49:41 pm
Absolutely beautiful!!     Painting, skins, exotic woods and fancy handle wraps are nice, but a really well crafted bow is pretty enough all by itself.    Ron
Title: Re: Elm Static Recurve
Post by: sailordad on November 22, 2010, 12:56:35 pm
WOW thats a realy sweet bow  8)
love the lines,the tiller etc
very nicely done Marc
love that style of bow,plain simple but yet looks to be very effective for what it is designed for
once again,nicely done
Title: Re: Elm Static Recurve
Post by: Kegan on November 22, 2010, 01:30:31 pm
Don't think words accurately describe this bow or your skill. But it's simple proof that you are indeed a master bowyer, Marc :)
Title: Re: Elm Static Recurve
Post by: Badger on November 22, 2010, 01:32:29 pm
   Mark, I have been admiring your work for many years now and still get the same thrill when I see one of your bows. Thats as good as it gets I think. Steve
Title: Re: Elm Static Recurve
Post by: HatchA on November 22, 2010, 01:40:23 pm
Beautiful bow!! 
Title: Re: Elm Static Recurve
Post by: Michael C. on November 22, 2010, 02:25:53 pm
Wow that is a sweet lookin' bow.  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Elm Static Recurve
Post by: Josh on November 22, 2010, 02:28:38 pm
Very nice recurve, Marc.  Tiller looks perfect on it.  BOM?  :)
Title: Re: Elm Static Recurve
Post by: aero86 on November 22, 2010, 03:07:23 pm
that one looks really good! should have made 3, one for me!  haha.  i bet it is fast, the tips are rather narrow
Title: Re: Elm Static Recurve
Post by: Barrage on November 22, 2010, 03:44:41 pm
A real dandy Marc.

I'm curious, why don't you make many of these anymore?
Title: Re: Elm Static Recurve
Post by: medicinewheel on November 22, 2010, 03:54:41 pm
Looks really good, and I believe it's fast!
Title: Re: Elm Static Recurve
Post by: ErictheViking on November 22, 2010, 04:30:20 pm
Incredible job! looks like it's ready for hunting.
Title: Re: Elm Static Recurve
Post by: Marc St Louis on November 22, 2010, 04:38:05 pm
Thanks guys

Go ahead Josh.

Barrage. They're hard to make and a bit hard to brace.  Not a bow I would recommend for a beginning archer
Title: Re: Elm Static Recurve
Post by: Cacatch on November 22, 2010, 05:52:38 pm
Awesome bow, Marc!  Now the forbidden question - any remote idea of what species of elm this is? It looks a little like red (slippery) (stinky) elm. Think it might be that one?

Thanks for showing!

-CP
Title: Re: Elm Static Recurve
Post by: adb on November 22, 2010, 06:09:46 pm
I always enjoy oogling your work. Top shelf, as usual. Dry heat, or moist? Thanks!
Title: Re: Elm Static Recurve
Post by: RyanY on November 22, 2010, 06:40:14 pm
Beautiful as always. Is this about as short as you go on these ones? Also the recurves look a little smaller than you used to make them or is it just me? Anyways it's an awesome bow. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Elm Static Recurve
Post by: AncientArcher76 on November 22, 2010, 07:27:27 pm
Nice work Marc... If I may ask could I see the static tips at a close up? 

Russ
Title: Re: Elm Static Recurve
Post by: bcbull on November 22, 2010, 07:45:41 pm
very nice mark reminds me of white lightning  lol  wonderin if barns still shoots it  couris to what kind elm it is  whit ? brock
Title: Re: Elm Static Recurve
Post by: Marc St Louis on November 22, 2010, 10:09:20 pm
I wouldn't hazard a guess CP.  The growth rings are fairly thick but uniform.  I cut this Elm about 7 years ago.

Wet heat for the recurves and dry for everything else Adam.

I would say it's a good length for a 28" draw.

I'm afraid the bow is gone AA76.  I'll post the only picture I have of the tips

I know that Bob sold one of the bows he had of mine

Title: Re: Elm Static Recurve
Post by: NTD on November 22, 2010, 10:38:30 pm
Gorgeous bow as usual, but I'm confused.  Braced and unbraced pics show string bridges but the FD pic doesn't... ???
Title: Re: Elm Static Recurve
Post by: Marc St Louis on November 22, 2010, 10:49:13 pm
Nate
The full draw was taken as I was tillering the bow.  This is the same Elm I sent you by the way
Title: Re: Elm Static Recurve
Post by: NTD on November 22, 2010, 11:00:19 pm
Ah okay.  That elm is incredible it took quite a beating. I posted a full draw pic of the one bow I made from the 2.  I'm hoping to have it all finished up by this weekend and will post pics.  It came out to short for me but it'll find a good home and I'm that much more prepared for the next stave.

Did you do a PA article for these types of bows?
Title: Re: Elm Static Recurve
Post by: Pappy on November 23, 2010, 09:24:17 am
Very nice work Marc,beautiful bow,I bet it is fast. :) I have some winged elm,got to get around to trying it. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: Elm Static Recurve
Post by: Steve Milbocker on November 23, 2010, 09:54:08 am
Beautiful Marc. I'm still shooting "Sinbad", an elm recurve Marc made for Ibex many years ago and it still shows a lot of reflex.
Title: Re: Elm Static Recurve
Post by: ohma on November 23, 2010, 10:26:00 am
fantastic Mark
Title: Re: Elm Static Recurve
Post by: Gordon on November 23, 2010, 11:00:40 am
Wow, now that is a recurve. Someday I want to build bows like that.
Title: Re: Elm Static Recurve
Post by: AncientArcher76 on November 23, 2010, 11:30:04 am
This is one design I have not yet attempted.  I appreciate u trying to  post the pic although u don't have the bow.  Nice work.

Russ
Title: Re: Elm Static Recurve
Post by: Barrage on November 23, 2010, 12:43:55 pm
Barrage. They're hard to make and a bit hard to brace.  Not a bow I would recommend for a beginning archer

Thanks Marc.  I was just curious if you meant that you had evolved to a different style or theory behind your bows. 

Makes sense about the bracing (and building), but it sure looks like it would be a screamer after you do!!  :) >:D
Title: Re: Elm Static Recurve
Post by: Marc St Louis on November 23, 2010, 02:19:08 pm
Thanks guys

I had a look at an Elm bow you made, don't know if that is the one made from the Elm I sent you.  You did an excellent job on it in any case.

I thought you were going to send that bow back to Steve Q, Steve M  :)

I do prefer making deflexed recurves now Travis.  They can be made shorter and don't give anything up in performance
Title: Re: Elm Static Recurve
Post by: Del the cat on November 23, 2010, 03:45:30 pm
Beautiful tiller.
Del
Title: Re: Elm Static Recurve
Post by: Steve Milbocker on November 23, 2010, 03:50:20 pm
I did. Steve did some" crack repair" and sent it back to me. It shoots as well as ever ;D
Title: Re: Elm Static Recurve
Post by: Keenan on November 23, 2010, 04:42:04 pm
 Mark, You make the nicest little re-curves as anyone. They always look like rocket launchers and tiller is as good as it gets. Great little bow, ;)
Title: Re: Elm Static Recurve
Post by: Marc St Louis on November 24, 2010, 10:39:25 am
Thanks guys

That is some crack repair Steve.
Title: Re: Elm Static Recurve
Post by: jwillis on November 24, 2010, 01:41:31 pm
That is an awesome looking design Marc. I like the way the bending looks very even between the fades and recurves. Jim