Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Silent Bear on December 30, 2010, 08:38:16 pm
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Some of the latest bows that I have made
37 inch juniper 55 pounds at 22 inch
39 inch juniper 50 pounds at 22 inch
38 inch mountain juniper 55 pounds at 22 inch
44 inch pacific yew (same dimensions as one of Ishi's bows) 56 pounds at 24 inch
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man those are nice i been wanting to make one for some time finnaly i am making one it 41 1/2 yew thanks for posting those pic s about ready to sinew mine brock
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Silent Bear,
Really gorgeous.....Those are outstanding examples of the type. Absolutely nothing to NOT like.
rich
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Now you are a man who knows how to make an entrance. Nice bunch of bows and welcome to the forum.
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Those are some beautiful bows. I really like the Pitt River bows, they are on my "want it" list.
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Very nice bows! Can we see full draw pics?
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Nice looking bows! How much sinew does it take to back a bow of that style?
I wouldn't mind seeing some full draw pics either.
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Full draw.... PE-LEEEEAZE! ;D ;D ;D
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Brilliant!
More pics!
Del
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Very nice. I would like to see a couple of them pulled back. Dean
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Beautiful bows, I agree. I'd love to see full draw picks also. Silent Bear, do you use back or leg sinew?
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I agree with Justin, very nice entrance to the board. Excellent replicas! ;) I'm glad to see more of these short sinew bows comming to the forum. Very nice work. Juniper and yew are my two favorite woods to work. You most live in the NW somewhere. If so I'd love to see these bows in person sometime. Thanks for sharing and welcome to PA. Keenan
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Wow, those are awesome!
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Welcome to P.A. Be great to see some drawn photo's of the bows. They look nice. ' Frank
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I agree with the others - you really know how to make an entrance. I would dearly love to see a couple of those pulled back. Welcome!
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These bows are backed with 3 layers of leg sinew the last yew bow has 1 thick layer I normally use the back sinew for bowstrings
Thanks for all the great replies I appreciate it, I am a member of the Atsugewi band Pitt River tribe I enjoy sharing my culture with others
I do not have any updated pictures but here is a picture of the 37 inch bow, I am uncoftorable with leaving these bows at full draw while I take pictures so it was pulled to 20 inches
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Great work Silent Bear. I like these bows very much How wide are the limbs? And how thick ? I think not more than 3/8".
Regards Uwe
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those are great i wish you would recruit a friend and show some more drawn and braced pics, always been my favorite design.love to be able to shoot one at my full draw.
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Man I love those bows! very nice
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Keenan- I live in Redding Ca where are you located ?
uwe- the bows range from 1 3/4 to around 2 1/2 at midlimb, they are thin less than 3/8
I will try and get some full draw pictures in the native shooting style which is similar to Ishis when the weather clears up
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Some great bows! Congrats to your work!
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Thank you so much for sharing these photos and your heritage with us here. Wonderful bows! :)
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Wow,those are very nice. Great job. God Bless
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Can't wait to see more!
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Great bows.
Working on a juniper Paiutte style short bow right now. Those are great replicas.
Welcome you should fit right in around here.
Tell
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Wow, really great bows. Look forward to seeing your work and welcome to PA!
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Really sweet bows, Silent Bear, thank you for sharing! Was the sinew put on with hide glue? Thanks again!
CP
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Very nice! :o
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Thanks for the warm welcome guys, riley I hope all goes well on your juniper bow can't wait to see it when its finished
Cacath the glue was made from sinew scraps but is very similar to hide glue
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Those are beautifull ,art work is really well done-how do shortys like that shoot-like to try one sometime-Hammertime
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Silentbear I think you have been doing this a while, those look great. I too am curious how they feel in the hand. I would also like to see how they are shot. Is this with a pinch style and push pulled to the middle of the chest. Please explain. I also assume they are shorter draw length with those poundages because with the different style of shooting it does not require as long of a draw, is that correct?
I guess you being a bowmaker from the tribe whose style you are presenting would make these more than replicas, it woul make them the real deal only in todays generation. I am so glad that the internet has allowed those of us with the hunger to learn the opportunity. Without it I would have never gotten to see the fruits of your craft or share in the pride of your culture. Thank you Danny
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Sweet! Could I ask you your recipe for making glue from sinew scraps? I tried once but evidently didn't do something right because all I kept getting was dirty water and I boiled the stuff down to almost non-existance. Thanks!
CP
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The native shooting style is geared more to these bows than the conventional, I have a hard time shooting these bows with the conventional shooting style most people use. everything just seems awkward the bow seems to stack more in the hands and its hard to find a consistent anchor.
I believe these people developed this unusual style because it lends itself for shooting in tight spots and is more accurate at a short draw your arms are very tight against your body letting you hold arrows under your right armpit and you have a constant anchor at your chin this style just feels natural for these bows.
With light arrows I do not notice a difference in speed when comparing to a longbow
Sidewinder- Yes its a pinch style the thumb pinches down on the arrow and the index and middle pinch up the bow is set almost horizontal with the arrow resting on the right side of the handle the arrow is held between the thumb and index finger, the left arm pushes out and the right pulls in and you anchor the wristbone at the chin. I will try and get a picture up soon and it should better explain what I am trying to say.
Cacath- you want the glue to go to a simmer boiling will make it weak, it helps on time to chop it down as fine as you can before cooking it out
I am glad I am able to share my culture with you guys I didn't think many people had interest in this stuff
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I hope we get to see more of this! Keep up the good work! Quite inspirational. I will have to try to make something similar soon.
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Thanks Sient Bear, I will look forward to seeing the pics when you get them up. There is another interesting site online as well that has attracted many throughout the world that have an interest in not only primitive archery but other primitve skills such as knapping, cordage, knife making atc. If you have an interest PM me and I will send you think. I have not posted it here just in case itcould offend this sites owners. I have great respect for them and this site and do not want a conflict of interest in the event one even exists. Danny
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Danny, if you want to have an idea of this shooting style, try to find a biography of ISHI. Different pics show this unique man and his or his tribes to shoot this bow.
A few weeks ago here was a thread about a "Yoü tube`s" film of the early `60ties, which show the way of making such bows as well as to shoot them. Films title was "Sinew backed Bow"? or something like this. The film shows how to make the sinew layer. What makes me wonder is, that he puts the sinew dry on the glued bow. I`ve learnt and did it always this way, to soak the water soaked tendons with glue, strip? it through the fingers, because of too much glue and then lay it on the bows`back.
Silentbear, how do vou make it wet or dry?
Regards Uwe
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Kviljo- thanks for the nice comments im happy that you were inspired by my work
Thanks Danny I will send you a pm
Uwe- I have seen this video, I myself was wondering the same thing all the tribes I have ever seen around here chew or soak it in warm water before applying it was strange to see him applying it dry. I soak the sinew in warm water a good 2 hours before applying I have backed bows by chewing and it seems to give similar results
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I am glad I am able to share my culture with you guys I didn't think many people had interest in this stuff
Ohhh how wrong you were!! hehehe....
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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A few weeks ago here was a thread about a "Yoü tube`s" film of the early `60ties, which show the way of making such bows as well as to shoot them. Films title was "Sinew backed Bow"? or something like this. The film shows how to make the sinew layer. What makes me wonder is, that he puts the sinew dry on the glued bow. I`ve learnt and did it always this way, to soak the water soaked tendons with glue, strip? it through the fingers, because of too much glue and then lay it on the bows`back.
Silentbear, how do vou make it wet or dry?
Regards Uwe
That was me who posted that,...
here ya go if anyone else is interested in seeing it!
Enjoy! :)
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,22844.0.html
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I`m "over 50"! Its allowed to me not to remember who it was exactly! ;D ;)
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Love this style of bow. Thanks for sharing silentbear. For some of us this is kind of an obsession ;D
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...missed your bowlast month for BOM contest but I have it bookmarked for the January Contest... Really nice bend for such a short bow, great work! :)