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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Peacebow_Coos on January 11, 2011, 02:54:24 am

Title: Short rawgide maple pyramid
Post by: Peacebow_Coos on January 11, 2011, 02:54:24 am
54" tip to tip, 2.25 at the fades to 1" at the tips.  Just sawzall'd it out, it's 7/16" thick at the handle because of a beveled table saw cut.  Is this thick enough for a 60 pound bow?  Long enough?  I'm hoping to pull a couple of inches of reflex in with the rawhide but it's so thick now I was thinking of shaping it first.  I really want an elk bow though, and the rings go [=] with the back being the top of that.  A few v grain marks but the side grain is fairly straight, only one run off, and it's partial.  I would appreciate any input, just hoping for some advice before I make too many shavings.
Thanks
Sam
Title: Re: Short rawgide maple pyramid
Post by: bobnewboy on January 11, 2011, 06:02:18 am
Hi Sam,

as I'm sure someone will soon say, a picture is worth a thousand words!
Title: Re: Short rawgide maple pyramid
Post by: Pappy on January 11, 2011, 07:21:55 am
What draw length are you looking for ? That pretty short .
   Pappy
Title: Re: Short rawgide maple pyramid
Post by: aznboi3644 on January 11, 2011, 09:05:26 pm
If you see any "V"s on the back of the bow than that is a major grain violation.

I'd scrap the board or back it with wood
Title: Re: Short rawgide maple pyramid
Post by: bucksbuoy on January 11, 2011, 09:12:08 pm
raw hide doesnt shrink when it dries so your not gonna get any reflex from it.
Title: Re: Short rawgide maple pyramid
Post by: Peacebow_Coos on January 15, 2011, 05:08:49 am
Thanks for the input guys.  There are a few v's running down the length, and off the side on one limb.  What kind of wood would you suggest to back it with?  I've got a hickory board, but it's sawn in a similar fashion.  I figured that as long as the side grain was fairly uniform I'd be alright?  I actually stretched the rawhide last time and it pulled a couple of inches in when it dried, but could have been because it was a super thin kid's bow.  I hate to scrap any wood, I'd just as soon make some shavings and see how things turn out.  I'm hoping for at least a 26-27" draw, but I'll settle for less if I can keep some draw weight.  Thanks for the input fellas, I really appreciate it.  Also, on a pyramid handle, do you make concave lines or straight fades; does it matter?  I was thinking that would make the thinnest part in the middle which would be bad news? }{  Like that, or _/.  Thanks again for your time.
Title: Re: Short rawgide maple pyramid
Post by: crooketarrow on January 15, 2011, 08:28:38 am
     Buck has it right only sinew will do that it will also adds some weight
Title: Re: Short rawgide maple pyramid
Post by: George Tsoukalas on January 15, 2011, 09:27:00 am
Is this a board or log stave. 54" is short. 7/16 is thin. You may have to glue on a handle. Pics please. Jawge
Title: Re: Short rawgide maple pyramid
Post by: aznboi3644 on January 15, 2011, 01:27:01 pm
54" with a 26" draw is pretty short...string angle is going to be right around 90 degrees at full draw.

Shortest 26" draw bow I've made is 50" N2N but its only 30lbs
Title: Re: Short rawgide maple pyramid
Post by: okiecountryboy on January 16, 2011, 08:32:03 am
Hey Pard
you will get a lot more feedback from these ole pros with pics.

God bless
Ron
Title: Re: Short rawgide maple pyramid
Post by: medicinewheel on January 16, 2011, 09:30:18 am
....
as I'm sure someone will soon say, a picture is worth a thousand words!

...now that you say it...!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Short rawgide maple pyramid
Post by: Peacebow_Coos on January 17, 2011, 03:13:03 am
This is of the handle grain from the edge.
Title: Re: Short rawgide maple pyramid
Post by: toomanyknots on January 17, 2011, 01:46:08 pm
Your picture didn't show. You should try tinypic.com It works great. Just upload and copy and paste the stuff under where it says for forums or something like that.
Title: Re: Short rawgide maple pyramid
Post by: Peacebow_Coos on January 17, 2011, 09:30:51 pm
Side view
(http://i55.tinypic.com/2iw1qgp.jpg)
Profile
(http://i51.tinypic.com/2zjjrki.jpg)
Limb v's
(http://i52.tinypic.com/fbcd92.jpg)
Title: Re: Short rawgide maple pyramid
Post by: Peacebow_Coos on January 17, 2011, 09:32:04 pm
That last one is of the belly
Thinking of rawhide with a trapped back to leave the maple wide and strong?
Title: Re: Short rawgide maple pyramid
Post by: Peacebow_Coos on January 17, 2011, 09:38:20 pm
Side view a little clearer hopefully, thanks for the tip toomanyknots!
(http://i54.tinypic.com/2vs0ymp.jpg)
Back v's
(http://i56.tinypic.com/dheaex.jpg)

Thanks for looking guys, any ideas?
Title: Re: Short rawgide maple pyramid
Post by: aznboi3644 on January 17, 2011, 10:13:27 pm
trapping the back would only increase stress on it.  Those Vs have the possibility of lifting up like a stack of papers.  I'd back it with wood or set it aside for later when you can back it with wood.
Title: Re: Short rawgide maple pyramid
Post by: Peacebow_Coos on January 18, 2011, 04:07:27 am
Ok, thanks for the info, maybe I'll set 'er aside I suppose until I get the hickory or walnut stripped up to 3/16.  Have a walnut Mollegabet going on too, better grain for the most part...I suppose I'll have to put up more pictures!  Baaaagh.  Appreciate the feedback aznboi