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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: youngbowyer on February 20, 2011, 03:11:30 pm

Title: knotty yew flatbow(improved tiller)
Post by: youngbowyer on February 20, 2011, 03:11:30 pm: Made this bow from a yew branch that had an rpi of about 25/30. The finish is danish oil and the handle wrap is hemp.
It's 54 inches long and pulls 45#@24".
(http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp235/tombowyer/DSC00251.jpg)
(http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp235/tombowyer/DSC00243.jpg)
(http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp235/tombowyer/DSC00252.jpg)
(http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp235/tombowyer/DSC00236.jpg)
Title: Re: knotty yew flatbow
Post by: Pat B on February 20, 2011, 03:17:43 pm: She looks pretty good but, IMO, needs more bending near the handle.
Title: Re: knotty yew flatbow
Post by: TBod on February 20, 2011, 03:55:31 pm: Nice!
Title: Re: knotty yew flatbow
Post by: Aries on February 20, 2011, 07:19:23 pm: That is a rockin lil bow! I see yew and ppl talk about it having that many RPI, it makes my head spin imagining trying to chase a single thin growth ring the length of that ;D. and ya maybe a little more bind towards the handle, but IMO if you have more wood waiting on ya, just let that baby be, and nail the tiller on the next one you make.
Title: Re: knotty yew flatbow
Post by: youngbowyer on February 20, 2011, 08:10:20 pm: thanks guys, i'm already working on another yew stave. Gonna take this one rabbit or squirel hunting soon.
Title: Re: knotty yew flatbow
Post by: Del the cat on February 20, 2011, 08:23:11 pm: Yeah, I'm with Pat B, you need to fade the handle down to the limb a bit quicker, the centre third of the bow doesn't seem to be flexing.
If you let more of the bow flex it will be less likely to fail, mind Yew is tough stuff.
Mighty fine bow tho', hope you don't mind the critique.
Del
Title: Re: knotty yew flatbow
Post by: youngbowyer on February 20, 2011, 08:27:06 pm: I'll improve the tiller tomorrow, ill keep you guys updated. What is the max drawlength you can get with a 54 inch bow? 24" is kind of annoying to shoot with it.
Title: Re: knotty yew flatbow
Post by: Keenan on February 20, 2011, 11:44:59 pm: Good job Youngbowyer, As far as draw length you could get a couple more inches if you get it bending a little closer to the handle like Pat said and also needs a little more wood scraped of the outer third of the lower limb. Hope that helps. Congratulations, Looks like your well on your way. ;)
Title: Re: knotty yew flatbow
Post by: gstoneberg on February 21, 2011, 01:11:53 am: Very nice. You'll get a couple more inches of draw out of it yet. You have taken that yew from alive to bow really quickly. Did it take any set?

George
Title: Re: knotty yew flatbow
Post by: Elktracker on February 21, 2011, 02:54:27 am: Nice job thats a pretty one ;D
Title: Re: knotty yew flatbow
Post by: medicinewheel on February 21, 2011, 05:24:36 am: Yes, as Pat says, would need more bend at the handle.
Good job on a difficult piece of wood!
Title: Re: knotty yew flatbow
Post by: Del the cat on February 21, 2011, 06:31:02 am: Quote from: youngbowyer on February 20, 2011, 08:27:06 pm
I'll improve the tiller tomorrow, ill keep you guys updated. What is the max drawlength you can get with a 54 inch bow? 24" is kind of annoying to shoot with it.
With Yew you should get half the length of the bow without too much trouble, but you can't afford a long stiff handle on a short bow, so try to keep the grip length as short as possible.
Del
Title: Re: knotty yew flatbow
Post by: youngbowyer on February 21, 2011, 09:55:00 am: I should get about 26" draw. The handle is only about 4 inches
Title: Re: knotty yew flatbow(improved tiller)
Post by: youngbowyer on February 21, 2011, 04:16:28 pm: Here it is now, i think the upper limb can bend some more right out of the handle.
(http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp235/tombowyer/Yew%20flatbow/DSC00257.jpg)
(http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp235/tombowyer/Yew%20flatbow/DSC00256.jpg)
(http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp235/tombowyer/Yew%20flatbow/DSC00255.jpg)
(http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp235/tombowyer/Yew%20flatbow/DSC00254.jpg)
(http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp235/tombowyer/Yew%20flatbow/DSC00260.jpg)
Title: Re: knotty yew flatbow(improved tiller)
Post by: tattoo dave on February 21, 2011, 07:03:45 pm: Great work!!! I love it. It's good to see such young bowyers. Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: knotty yew flatbow(improved tiller)
Post by: Rain Man on February 21, 2011, 07:44:44 pm: buddy, is that you in the pic?? That's awesome!
Title: Re: knotty yew flatbow(improved tiller)
Post by: youngbowyer on February 21, 2011, 07:58:01 pm: Yup, that's me
Title: Re: knotty yew flatbow(improved tiller)
Post by: Eric Krewson on February 21, 2011, 08:14:43 pm: Great bow for a young bowyer! Do you need a tillering Gizmo? Sure makes getting the limbs bending evenly easier. Will send you one if you think you can use it.
Title: Re: knotty yew flatbow(improved tiller)
Post by: youngbowyer on February 21, 2011, 09:03:04 pm: What's a tillering gizmo?
Title: Re: knotty yew flatbow(improved tiller)
Post by: gstoneberg on February 21, 2011, 10:03:12 pm: Here's the gizmo thread... http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,19540.msg

Looks like you're getting to full draw now. You're losing a little bend near the handle because your taper from the handle to the limb is more gentle than it needs to be. It isn't a big deal since you're at full draw. I agree, even the 2 limbs up a little more and call it good. That full draw profile is nice, I've made a couple just like that because I thought they looked cool and still do. On your next flatbow you can try a little more even tiller. It'll lower the stress on the wood and help avoid string follow.

Very nice bow. I just love the look of yew.

George
Title: Re: knotty yew flatbow(improved tiller)
Post by: youngbowyer on February 21, 2011, 10:20:07 pm: I'll scrape some more on that upper limb tomorrow. Tillering a flatbow sure takes longer than a warbow.
Title: Re: knotty yew flatbow(improved tiller)
Post by: Del the cat on February 22, 2011, 03:39:50 pm: Yeah, that's lookin' smoother.
Good work.
Del
Title: Re: knotty yew flatbow(improved tiller)
Post by: youngbowyer on February 23, 2011, 12:37:57 am: Forgot to mention this, final drawweight came out to be 50#@26". She shoots very fast!
Title: Re: knotty yew flatbow(improved tiller)
Post by: juniper junkie on February 24, 2011, 01:27:05 am: great job, you will be giving Keenan a run for his money in no time.
Title: Re: knotty yew flatbow(improved tiller)
Post by: fishfinder401 on February 24, 2011, 01:32:11 am: once you get the tiller right looks like it will be a great bow, amazing, i thought i was the youngest on here, it great to see other young people on here
Title: Re: knotty yew flatbow(improved tiller)
Post by: Pappy on February 24, 2011, 09:41:40 am: Looks like you got a shooter there,nice work ,keep um coming. :)
Pappy
Title: Re: knotty yew flatbow(improved tiller)
Post by: DEllis on February 24, 2011, 04:37:37 pm: Well done youngbowyer.........you'll nail the tiller on the next one for sure. Thanks for posting :)
Darcy