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Title: Hogzilla Rival (Proven Fake)
Post by: Wasatchhawk on May 25, 2007, 09:02:18 pm
There was a report in our Newspaper that an 11 year old Alabama boy shot a wild hog bigger than Hogzilla.  here's a link to it in our paper. http://www.ksl.com/?nid=333&sid=1266571
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival
Post by: D. Tiller on May 25, 2007, 09:08:39 pm
Dang thats almost as big as one of those boars from back durring the Ice Age.
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival
Post by: Kegan on May 25, 2007, 09:28:05 pm
Mmmmmmmmmmmmm... baaacooon :P ;D! Shame, if he shot it with a bow, there would be even MORE meat to eat ;D
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival
Post by: Gordon on May 26, 2007, 12:28:15 am
Is that a real photo? If it is - oh my! :o
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Post by: Rich Saffold on May 26, 2007, 01:54:01 am
The young hunter, and his pop were interviewed on the local radio station a few days ago.  It was a very good interview, But I forgot to google up a photo.. Wow! thats best in show at the State Fair. Interesting how those massive hogs resemble the domestic variety a whole lot more than your traditional razorback.. ;)

Rich
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival
Post by: Coo-wah-chobee on May 26, 2007, 05:24:20 am
             SOOOOOOEEEEEEE!!!!--PIG_PIG_PIG!!!! :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o ;D...bob
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival
Post by: D. Tiller on May 26, 2007, 04:32:26 pm
Pig its whats for dinner...breakfast....lunch .... Heck the rest of the year!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival
Post by: welch2 on May 26, 2007, 06:14:35 pm
The little fellar must be in hog heaven.   :D

Ralph
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival
Post by: D. Tiller on May 26, 2007, 06:30:11 pm
All 1000 and some odd pounds!!  ;D
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival
Post by: venisonburger on May 26, 2007, 09:06:15 pm
I'm skeptical,sorry.
VB
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival
Post by: GraemeK on May 26, 2007, 09:30:53 pm
Hi VB
Dont know if this story is real but it sure is possible since domestic sows regularly get as big as 1200 pounds and some have been known to reach 1500 pounds. The reason the big pigs look domestic is that they have to be escaped farm animals or at least crosses with them as wild pigs are genetically much smaller.  -----GKL
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival
Post by: mullet on May 26, 2007, 10:47:39 pm
   I'd bet good money it's real.It looks like a domestic that has been in the woods for a little while,but not long.If it was wild for that size,it should have long and broken tusk's and numerous scars from fighting.The skull I have the arrows posted with in another section are almost 5".and that pig only weighed 155#.I'm starting to think people are turning loose BIG pen raised hogs seeking a record.
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival
Post by: kerbinator on May 27, 2007, 01:28:03 am
I over heard some fellas in a dinner talking about this pig that the boy had killed with a 50 cal. pistol. I would have liked to seen him on all fours. I bet it was a terrible site.
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival
Post by: Traxx on May 27, 2007, 02:45:22 am
Its definetly,a domestic breed of hog.It does have some size to it,but not as big as it looks.The old trick,of standin back from the animal to make it look bigger,shure makes em look bigger than they are.
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival
Post by: Coo-wah-chobee on May 27, 2007, 02:49:12 am
   Domestic, fer my $. Have seen a lot of hawgs and the wild ones look "rangy' an like Eddie said full of 'fightin' scars..bob
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival
Post by: venisonburger on May 27, 2007, 12:21:30 pm
I guess not being from hog country  it seems unbelievable, I'll trust you guys that it's real. I sure as heck wouldn't want to run into something like that. The biggest animal we have up here in Michigans upper penninsula is black bear. Where would an animal like that hog get enough feed to grow so big?
VB
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival
Post by: venisonburger on May 27, 2007, 12:27:39 pm
I agree with Traxx,Looking at the picture, it  looks like the boy is 6-8 feet further back from the hog, with arms positioned to appear they are resting on the hog, the hog is really large but why play photo tricks to embelish?
VB
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival
Post by: mullet on May 27, 2007, 12:51:41 pm
  It is still one big pig.That new 50cal pistol is no toy pop gun.
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival
Post by: jpitts on May 27, 2007, 01:30:53 pm
I'm with Mullet on this one....seen some biggun's but this looks more like a farm animal.....not enough battle scars and such.  Would love to be able to take it at face value, but in this day and age.....you know?
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival
Post by: Bikewer on May 27, 2007, 05:37:53 pm
I don't know if anyone saw the National Geographic special on the original "Hogzilla", but it was proved to be a fake.   A large hog, to be sure, but not nearly as large as the photographs indicated.   
Clever "forced perspective" photography.
NG even dug up the carcass....

These people are associated with the same group that produced the Hogzilla photos, and there is a commercial tie-in as well.  Evidently, they are releasing a movie....

Not to be trusted.
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival
Post by: Knapperderg on May 27, 2007, 09:53:46 pm
Holy crap man bacon i love my bocan lol :o :o :o :o :o :o :-X ???
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival
Post by: jpitts on May 30, 2007, 12:05:04 am
talk about eating "High on the Hog".... :D ;D ::)
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival
Post by: Justin Snyder on May 30, 2007, 01:06:15 am
It was shot on a preserve, so we can be relatively sure it was at least part domestic.  I find it harder to imagine an 11 year old shooting a 50 cal pistol 5 times, than a pig getting that big. Justin
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival
Post by: jpitts on May 30, 2007, 11:41:51 pm
Justin, you mean like a WMA? (Wildlife Management Area) or a private place?
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival
Post by: mullet on May 31, 2007, 12:25:13 am
   Just heard this kid on a radio show this morning.He didn't know anything.They finally got out of him that he was just tagging along on the hunt.It sure didn't sound very convincing and he also has a part in the new "Hogzilla" movie being filmed.And the kids Dad is selling posters too.They also have their own web site,I havn't even bothered to look for it,but it's monster hog ....something or other
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival
Post by: Justin Snyder on May 31, 2007, 12:41:27 am
OOPS he shot it 8 times.
jpitts, quote from the article, "With the animal finally dead in a creek bed on the 2,500-acre Lost Creek Plantation, a commercial hunting preserve".  It is a game FARM. 
My guess is dad paid those 2 guides a lot of money to get them to turn bernard out and herd him past the kid, who made a bad shot anyway.   ;) Justin
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival
Post by: mullet on May 31, 2007, 12:51:07 am
  I'm with you Justin.That 50 cal had to put some big holes in that pig.I went on a pistol hunt for hogs with some guy's.It was the first time I was undergunned with a pistol.One had a 454 Casul and the other had a 50.Those are impressive handguns.I don't see the kid getting off to many accurate shots with the 50.Well anyway,Mechlesher and I will be next door to the Hogzilla plantation Fri.Maybe we can found "Son of Hogzilla" and be famous too ;D
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival
Post by: Justin Snyder on May 31, 2007, 01:01:03 am
Eddie, shoot 3 60# pigs. You wont be famous, but you will have more EDIBLE meat.  Justin
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival
Post by: Pat B on May 31, 2007, 01:14:01 am
Eddie, Ya'll hunting with bows or Jeeps? ::)      Pat
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival
Post by: Justin Snyder on May 31, 2007, 01:22:58 am
Eddie, Ya'll hunting with bows or Jeeps? ::)      Pat
Yea Eddie, dont try to run down one of those 1100# pigs with the jeep.  ;D  Justin
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival
Post by: Hillbilly on May 31, 2007, 07:46:40 am
Durnit, y'all beat me to the jeep jokes. I was gonna tell him to get some bigger tires on the ol' jeep before he tries to run over one like that.  :)
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival
Post by: DBernier on May 31, 2007, 08:47:36 am
The boy and his Father were interviewed last night, Wednesday, on the FOX news channel between 5 and 6PM. It was a telephone interview. He said he fired over a dozen times and hit him a half dozen or so. Father said there were two professional guides with them. I'll reserve opinion on this one. Could very well be true. There are some big pigs out there, even in NC, 300 to 350 lb range.

Dick Bernier
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival
Post by: Justin Snyder on May 31, 2007, 10:38:39 am
You do have to be carefull what you listen too.  I saw a news program that said they claimed it was 1500 pounds.  From what they wrote, and what I have heard them say, they have never claimed anything like that. 
Dick, I believe it is true also.  I just don't think it is what you would call a "WILD" hog.  ;)   Justin
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival
Post by: mullet on May 31, 2007, 06:31:22 pm
   I was wondering how long it would take for the Jeep jokes.I'm going to paint silhouettes on the door like a fighter pilot.It's got a hog,bearded turkey and a bunch of armodillo's ;D
   The web site is monsterhog.com
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival
Post by: DBernier on May 31, 2007, 08:19:06 pm
Justin, I think some of the domestic farmers raising hog's probably get them up to the 1000# range. I can only assume that one going "wild" so to speak could get that big.  On the telephone interview, his father said some woman on another network was being a sceptic because they did not have the interview with her. Still 1/2 ton of pork is a lot of meat.
  Hey Eddie, my wife can put 3 deer stamps on her car. She does not think they are "Bambi" any more.   ;D

Dick Bernier
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival
Post by: jpitts on June 01, 2007, 12:29:10 am
I've had a big sow charge me before and that'll make you brick yo britches. I can't imagine what that sucker would sound like busting through a palmetto thicket......geeeeesh
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival
Post by: Pat B on June 01, 2007, 01:18:54 am
In the National Geo I saw on Hogzilla they said a pig could grow to an unlimited size. The largest recorded was raised in China and weighed 2000#. They had it stuffed. :o  I saw a shoulder mount of a 600#er that was taken on Fife Plantation just north of Savannah in a river swamp. The most interesting but scary thing about hogs is that within a few months, a domestic hog will become feral ; ie grow bristly hair and their tusks begin to grow...in a few months! :o  There is quite a bit of potential there for some dangerous game hunting here in the US.    Pat
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival
Post by: medicinewheel on June 01, 2007, 03:24:16 am

i've seen this reported on a german newspaper few days ago, too.
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival
Post by: Manager on June 01, 2007, 11:13:59 am
check out this website....


http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/hogzilla.asp


scroll to the bottom....I dont think it is true.  WWW. Snopes.com  is a great website to go to when you hear stories like this or when you get email about a child and if you dontate or foward an email on they get $$...all of it is so false...
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival
Post by: Wasatchhawk on June 02, 2007, 01:38:40 am
IT'S Fake!

I don't know why we are getting the story first way out here in the west. But here is the link to the story of the man who recently sold the animal to the preserve.  His wife could not stand letting the public be msiled in believing it was a wild hog.

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=333&sid=1266571

However the original owner was upset that people thought the photo was doctoreed because "Fred" was really that big.
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival (Proven Fake)
Post by: a finnish native on June 02, 2007, 09:29:50 am
Ok. so it's fake. cool.
anyway just to say, that hogs really can get that big in the wilds. For example Russian hogs that the Spanish brought to Florida a long time ago, can grow up to 600 kg. (about 1200#) they get that big in Russia also.
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival (Proven Fake)
Post by: Kegan on June 02, 2007, 06:06:40 pm
Now, I don't understand it. A big old domestic will go feral in a coupla months, and they can raise form pretty big domestics- so why not make a business outta it? "Hunt a hogzilla" or whatever. With all those crackpots out there and stupid hunting places you think this one would have been around already. I don;'t think someone who is out for a trophy is gonna care if it was a wild hog some someone's Wilbur. I bet you could make a decent penny off it, at l;east get alot of customers :P

Oh well. Hog or pig- that's still alot of meat. I bet some would pay for a hunt their just for that!
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival (Proven Fake)
Post by: mullet on June 03, 2007, 10:16:55 pm
    Russian Hogs were never brought to Florida by the Spanish.Hernando DeSoto listed on his manifest,40 domestic hogs from Spain.These are the ancestors of some of the long snouted "wild hogs" in Florida.I've read the entire manifest and researched DeSoto because of a period Spanish artifact I found.

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Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival (Proven Fake)
Post by: mullet on June 03, 2007, 10:18:08 pm
   Here's the other one

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Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival (Proven Fake)
Post by: cowboy on June 03, 2007, 10:49:49 pm
Wow man, what's that thing worth?
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival (Proven Fake)
Post by: mullet on June 03, 2007, 10:59:31 pm
   Cowboy,So far it's worthless.Christie's and other auction places have never seen a land find or one in that good of shape.I have almost 10 grand invested authenicating it.That's why I no about the hogs in florida.
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival (Proven Fake)
Post by: jpitts on June 07, 2007, 10:27:44 am
Wow Eddie, Those are neat...what are the stones in it? Is it a bracelet of some sort?
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival (Proven Fake)
Post by: Dane on June 07, 2007, 10:48:23 am
That is a cool piece you have there. I hope you do get a value on it.

What do you suppose this will do to the upcoming movie "The Legend of Hogzilla"? Why would anyone make a movie like that, anyway? :)
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival (Proven Fake)
Post by: mullet on June 07, 2007, 07:46:36 pm
Jimmy,The stones are jelly and fire opals from Mexico. They are rough on the surface.The people we had authenticate it said it was probally from being worn under mail.On the back it says Otilia,Ortiz, and Wimslow.We were told the pieces were probally inscribed with the names of people owed money.Otilia is a Portuguese woman's name and Wimslow is English.Names of the 40 Portuguese and 1 Englishman, mercenaries, were not named on the manifest.Another deadend trieing to prove it was with DeSoto's trip.
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival (Proven Fake)
Post by: jpitts on June 07, 2007, 11:34:41 pm
Well don't give up. The name Wimslow may turn up somewhere.....you never know...maybe someone in a museum somewhere will have the answers. Wow...wouldn't that be cool
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival (Proven Fake)
Post by: Coo-wah-chobee on June 07, 2007, 11:38:27 pm
           Jimmy...............I've seen this and held it. Wow, its beautiful....... :o.bob
Title: Re: Hogzilla Rival (Proven Fake)
Post by: jpitts on June 07, 2007, 11:45:33 pm
Bob, I bet....and just imagine the stories it could tell.....