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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Bevan R. on March 08, 2011, 11:19:49 pm

Title: First Dead, Second Try
Post by: Bevan R. on March 08, 2011, 11:19:49 pm: The first Trade Bow stave died. Found a split when I roughed it out. I was able to save one limb for a possable TD latter.
I grabbed stave #2 and took it to a ring. In looking at it, I do not like the little narrow dip toward one end.
I got to thinking, the ends are the widest and thickest part. Has anyone ever cut a stave in half and billeted it back using the original ends and the joint?
I have marked the middle of the stave with a line in the picture.
Comments GREATLY appreciated.

Bevan R
Title: Re: First Dead, Second Try
Post by: Will H on March 08, 2011, 11:37:56 pm: looks like a good start! can we see a close up of the rings?
Title: Re: First Dead, Second Try
Post by: Bevan R. on March 08, 2011, 11:48:04 pm: Sorry, should have included that in the start up.

Bevan R
Title: Re: First Dead, Second Try
Post by: Elktracker on March 08, 2011, 11:57:52 pm: I dont see any reason why you couldnt do that, a splice is just as strong as a full stave imo if you use the right splice and glue. I preffer the z splice and I use Urac 185 and it is as strong as the wood its self. John Strunk has been working with me on splices and I too am going to be changing my trade bow from a challenging vine maple stave to a dry nice spliced Iron Wood (Ocean Spray) Ill post pics tomorrow.

Josh
Title: Re: First Dead, Second Try
Post by: Bevan R. on March 09, 2011, 12:04:47 am: I have done MANY 'Z' splices on board bows and I have never had a splice fail. My concern is that narrow dip and if I splice, I can move it out toward the end of a limb instead of being in the middle. Not trying to give anything away, but I have to make this bow stronger and longer draw than I use so I think I have a valid concern with the dip.
Another option is to go to 'Stave 3'

Bevan R
Title: Re: First Dead, Second Try
Post by: George Tsoukalas on March 09, 2011, 12:10:27 am: Can you take a picture of the dip? It doesn't really look that bad. Jawge
Title: Re: First Dead, Second Try
Post by: Elktracker on March 09, 2011, 12:11:52 am: Ok I misunderstood your question ??? And Im not sure exactly what you are asking due to my inexperiance im sure. Im betting someone who knows there stuff can help ;D
Title: Re: First Dead, Second Try
Post by: Bevan R. on March 09, 2011, 12:28:17 am: My concern is not the curve, it is how the stave narrows right there. The angle of the split stave is a 'V' from the back of the bow to the belly. There is only about 1" wide of usable wood where that curve is.

Bevan R
Title: Re: First Dead, Second Try
Post by: Pat B on March 09, 2011, 01:08:08 am: Start your limb taper for that tip right at the dip. I think you have plenty of wood. Let the stave tell you what it wants to be, not what you want to make of it. ;)
Title: Re: First Dead, Second Try
Post by: Bevan R. on March 09, 2011, 01:14:06 am: Thanks guys,
Pat, I will do a layout on it tommorrow night and post a pic before I do any cutting.
I keep telling myself, "No rush. I have until the end of June"

Bevan R
Title: Re: First Dead, Second Try
Post by: Pat B on March 09, 2011, 01:17:46 am: If you think it's too narrow make the limb thicker. Osage can take it. I'll bet you can work it out if you study the stave well.