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Title: Little guy
Post by: skyarrow on March 16, 2011, 04:54:24 pm
We are drilling a new well for a filling station and I was behind it talking on the phone to the wahene and I looked down and I almost stepped on this little garder snake man is he pretty


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Title: Re: Little guy
Post by: NTD on March 16, 2011, 04:56:23 pm
Nice little garter Sterling
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Post by: Cacatch on March 16, 2011, 05:08:06 pm
Cute little fart  :-*

Title: Re: Little guy
Post by: skyarrow on March 16, 2011, 06:02:59 pm
Nice little garter Sterling
thanx for the spelling I never kn if it had a d or a t in it so I guessed lol
Title: Re: Little guy
Post by: NTD on March 16, 2011, 06:29:33 pm
Hey Sterling, wasn't trying to correct ya.  But at least you didn't call it a garden snake.  Some trivial information for you they call them garter snakes because of the striping down their sides.  We don't have a lot of garters where I'm at, so it's a treat when I do find them.  I've got about a 30" in the freezer though, maybe I'll find another roadkilled one to match it up this spring.
Title: Re: Little guy
Post by: sailordad on March 16, 2011, 06:37:29 pm
thats one of the few tpes we have in mn
aint seen one in years untill last spring
used to see them over 3ft long all the time when i was a kid

carefull they will bite  ;D
Title: Re: Little guy
Post by: skyarrow on March 16, 2011, 06:46:46 pm
Thanx for the info Nate we have lots around here my mom use to work at the zoo when I was little and I got to help take care of  the snakes with her and the garter and hog nose snake were my favorite to feed and hold :)
Title: Re: Little guy
Post by: NTD on March 16, 2011, 06:48:08 pm
Hognose are AWESOME.  Do you have those where you are?
Title: Re: Little guy
Post by: skyarrow on March 16, 2011, 07:48:15 pm
Yep :) there the ones that will play dead lol
Title: Re: Little guy
Post by: NTD on March 16, 2011, 07:56:25 pm
I have captive bred hognoses and as much as I harass them they won't play dead.  We have them here in AZ anyway but they are a bit southeast of me...I've only seen them DOR, haven't gotten to doing a field searching for them yet.
Title: Re: Little guy
Post by: skyarrow on March 16, 2011, 08:20:40 pm
Cool
Title: Re: Little guy
Post by: Lee Slikkers on March 16, 2011, 09:56:45 pm
Hognose are AWESOME.  Do you have those where you are?

We seem to have quite a few Hognose around my place, I am located about 1/2 mile off the shores of Lake MI and it's fairly sandy, scrub type terrain which the Toads love and where there are Toads there are Hognose.  Last year I caught two gorgeous Hog's one was almost a yellow on cream pattern and the other was an orange on tan.

We see a few Garter's as well but it needs to be in areas of a bit more grass, moist creak bottoms. 

Title: Re: Little guy
Post by: JW_Halverson on March 16, 2011, 11:42:10 pm
Friend of mine once kept a 10" western hognose for a month...fed it a 6" tiger salamander and found out he had a hog sized appetite!

Garter (or gardener as the locals around here insist on calling them) are pretty dull colored.  Where I came from in North Dakota the light colored stripes down the side were electric yellow!  I once saw one swimming underwater catching minnows and thought I was dreaming it up. 
Title: Re: Little guy
Post by: Lee Slikkers on March 16, 2011, 11:46:42 pm
Friend of mine once kept a 10" western hognose for a month...fed it a 6" tiger salamander and found out he had a hog sized appetite!

Garter (or gardener as the locals around here insist on calling them) are pretty dull colored.  Where I came from in North Dakota the light colored stripes down the side were electric yellow!  I once saw one swimming underwater catching minnows and thought I was dreaming it up. 

No way, those tiger Salamanders are so cool!  I raised a few in college when I worked at a Pet Store.

I caught one Garter here last year and it's stripes were pretty yellow as well plus it had some bright red "check" marks in the pattern that were a real knock out.  My German Shorthair likes to "point" snakes so we find any around the house fairly quickly  ;D
Title: Re: Little guy
Post by: Bevan R. on March 16, 2011, 11:50:19 pm
Found a really nice one here at my new place last summer. Looked it up on the net cause I had never seen one like it. Net said it was a scarlet sided one. It had gotten trapped in the trench I was digging for the electrical feed for the shop. finally got it into a bucket and turned it loose in the bushes. Wish I had taken a picture of it. Maybe this summer.

Bevan R
Title: Re: Little guy
Post by: Lee Slikkers on March 16, 2011, 11:53:25 pm
hmm, makes me wonder about the one I found then...I know it sure looked quite a bit different than all the garters I caught around here as a kid.  What state are you in Bevan?
Title: Re: Little guy
Post by: Bevan R. on March 17, 2011, 12:03:34 am
I live in the great state of denial!! ;D Just ask JW.

Nebraska. Western Nebraska to be exact. Or Eastern Wyoming, depending on the wind.

Bevan R
Title: Re: Little guy
Post by: Lee Slikkers on March 17, 2011, 12:08:54 am
Dang, all you guys live somewhere cool "out west"...    One day I'll migrate to where I really belong!
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Post by: Bevan R. on March 17, 2011, 12:23:51 am
Just wait. In a few weeks, 'cool' will not be in the vocabulary here.

Where you at?
Title: Re: Little guy
Post by: Lee Slikkers on March 17, 2011, 12:30:52 am
Lower Western Michigan...Holland (big Dutch/Tulip Time City  ::)


Title: Re: Little guy
Post by: NTD on March 17, 2011, 12:54:57 am
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No way, those tiger Salamanders are so cool!  I raised a few in college when I worked at a Pet Store.

I caught one Garter here last year and it's stripes were pretty yellow as well plus it had some bright red "check" marks in the pattern that were a real knock out.  My German Shorthair likes to "point" snakes so we find any around the house fairly quickly  ;D
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Too many dangerous snakes around here to let my GSP "point" the snakes, we'll be snake breaking her as soon as she's mentally able to handle it.

Some of the garters are nasty ugly, many are downright gorgeous though, prettiest one I've seen was one in Idaho while I was fighting fires up there.  I like Tiger salamanders too...too much to feed to my snakes :D

On the "cool" note....yeah it was in the mid to high 80's today...warming up quick here...but that means good things to come ;D

Lee, those eastern hognoses are even cooler than our western hogs...lucky guy I tell ya ;)
Title: Re: Little guy
Post by: Bevan R. on March 17, 2011, 01:28:16 am
I have come to believe that we all live in great places. It's the 'grass in always greener' syndrome that get people down. I would love to have access to 'road kill' bow skins. But I have come to love living where I am at.
You do have some nice looking snakes Nathen.

Bevan R
Title: Re: Little guy
Post by: johnston on March 17, 2011, 02:07:50 pm
Garter snakes are way cool but they can be dangerous.


Was cutting the grass at my Mom's back when she was still alive. Bunch of flowers and fruit trees grape vines and I do hate a weedeater, Rammed the Snapper under a small pear tree all leaned over, holding up limbs... and a Garter fell down my shirt.

Hey, I planted her another tree.

Lane
Title: Re: Little guy
Post by: Postman on March 17, 2011, 03:11:17 pm
NTD   -awesome that you have a snake pointer  :D
 We trained our yellow lab in college to sniff out reptile room escapes and to a lesser degree outside herps (no hots in that area). My current dog likes to find box turtles, but I didn't teach her to.  Hopefully she wont try and make friends with a copperhead.

Best thing about garters is you can often get them to eat a nightcrawler right after capture.
Title: Re: Little guy
Post by: NTD on March 17, 2011, 03:26:52 pm
Postman,

No no my pointer won't be pointing any snakes.  That was Lee who has one that does that.  As soon as My pup is old enough we will be breaking her on snakes.  She is not allowed in the herp room because I don't want her ever comfortable around the smell or presence of snakes.
Title: Re: Little guy
Post by: ken75 on March 19, 2011, 12:27:09 am
i caught a hognose in my yard last year when i first started messing with him he flared his neck out and hissed . after a few minutes he flipped over and gave up . hated to turn him loose he was fun
Title: Re: Little guy
Post by: gstoneberg on March 19, 2011, 02:09:35 am
How'd I miss this thread?  Bevan, when I lived in Eastern Nebraska we had a garter snake den in our yard.  One day each spring and one day each fall we'd see garter snakes by the boatloads.  Not sure what was under the ground there, but I suspect it was where somebody had pushed dirt over an old building foundation and buried it.  Seemed like they always came out of a crack in the dirt.  I thought it was cool.  My wife...not so much.  She was interested the first couple times we saw them, but not like me.

George
Title: Re: Little guy
Post by: Bevan R. on March 19, 2011, 03:08:14 pm
I would love to see that. I do not mind snakes as a whole. It is the supprise when they take off from between you feet as you walk that scares the crap out of me.
A friend of my Mom's lives in the Sandhills in Nebraska. They have an old fashioned root cellar. A few years ago, she went down there and felt something go by her had before she got the light on. Found out they had blue racers living in there. I told them to leave them, that if they had racers, that meant they had rodents. They would not listen to me. They trapped over 50 blue racers out of that root cellar.

Bevan R
Title: Re: Little guy
Post by: NTD on March 19, 2011, 06:20:39 pm
Speaking of hognose snakes.

Here's a western hognose enjoying a meal, he's quite reatarded though and eats things backwards quite often.
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Title: Re: Little guy
Post by: Bevan R. on March 19, 2011, 06:27:35 pm
Must be a guy if he won't ask for directions to the head. >:D

How often do you feed him?

Bevan R
Title: Re: Little guy
Post by: NTD on March 19, 2011, 06:36:23 pm
LOL yep he's a boy ;D  I don't really have a schedule for them, I feed them on a varying schedule depending on what they ate, what time of year it is etc.  It can be anywhere from every other day to once or twice a week.
Title: Re: Little guy
Post by: Bevan R. on March 19, 2011, 06:38:14 pm
Good luck with the 'critter' farm. Don't mind seeing the photo's and would not mind a walk through, but having something like that for my own, sorry. Not my style.

Bevan R
Title: Re: Little guy
Post by: Lee Slikkers on March 19, 2011, 10:51:30 pm
They would not listen to me. They trapped over 50 blue racers out of that root cellar.

Bevan R

Blue Racers ROCK!  I used to see them regularly around our place but only see maybe 1 a year now and that is using in the form of road kill.

Title: Re: Little guy
Post by: criveraville on March 20, 2011, 03:58:33 am
Those are colorful little snakes. I found a road kill one last year, but it was too messed up to salvage.

By the way, Skyarrow- I was in your neck of the woods. We went down to Matagorda and camped at the mouth of the Colorado. Caught a red fish, black drum, whiting, blue clawe crag and sum sheepheads. Had a great time.
Title: Re: Little guy
Post by: skyarrow on March 20, 2011, 10:56:56 am
Cool next time call me or text we can hang out and do some bow fishing
Title: Re: Little guy
Post by: criveraville on March 20, 2011, 02:41:05 pm
You got it!! Thank you for the offer!!! Will do fo sho!!