Primitive Archer

Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Lee Lobbestael on May 02, 2011, 06:26:07 pm

Title: Heat treating
Post by: Lee Lobbestael on May 02, 2011, 06:26:07 pm
Hey guys, In the past I have "heat treated" the belly of several self bows by going over each limb with a heat gun, held several inches away untill the wood browned and then moved on down the limb untill the whole limb was browned over. Is this all there is to it or am I missing something? I saw one post on it that claimed it should take several hours, however this process I described only takes about a half hour or so. ???
Title: Re: Heat treating
Post by: johnston on May 02, 2011, 07:51:27 pm
Lee that is not doing you much good. Marc St. Louis has a video here that will put you straight. When I watched it I had to turn down my volume because of the heat gun noise but
that may have been fixed. Dont have the link but I found it by using the search tool.

Lane
Title: Re: Heat treating
Post by: Elktracker on May 02, 2011, 08:32:51 pm
This is the video johnston is talking about it gives a good idea of how long it should take  http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,23338.0.html
Title: Re: Heat treating
Post by: Gordon on May 03, 2011, 12:02:14 am
Takes me about 1 hour per limb.
Title: Re: Heat treating
Post by: Lee Lobbestael on May 03, 2011, 12:34:59 am
thanks guys. Looks like I gotta toast it longer
Title: Re: Heat treating
Post by: Qwill on May 03, 2011, 06:53:52 pm
Umm, I hate to say this, but I've had good luck with a faster version of heat treating. I've even used my barbecue. It takes about 20 minutes to do the whole bow on the barbecue, and the biggest trouble I've had is keeping my tension string from burning. I string the bow backward to induce some reflex. Perhaps there is a more notable increase in limb strength using a slower method, but with the woods I'm using, I'm not sure I want to go to far. Anyway, I may try using Mr. St. Louis method someday, but then again, I may not be that patient. All I know is that heat treating quickly does help somewhat. I am just finishing a 40 inch west-coast bow of yew and sinew that I heat treated the belly. Huge difference from heat treating the bow.
Title: Re: Heat treating
Post by: DEllis on May 03, 2011, 10:37:07 pm
I just use the burner on my propane stove. Takes about 20 to 30 min per limb........seems to work well for birch and hickory(which is the only heat treating I have tried) Might be a few ways to skin that cat after all. ;D
Darcy :)
Title: Re: Heat treating
Post by: eflanders on May 03, 2011, 11:03:58 pm
I too prefer to use a hotter and quicker way to temper the wood.  Probably because I am usually just working with laminations rather than a solid piece.  I mentioned this in a previous post of mine.
Title: Re: Heat treating
Post by: Marc St Louis on May 04, 2011, 01:10:52 pm
Umm, I hate to say this, but I've had good luck with a faster version of heat treating. I've even used my barbecue. It takes about 20 minutes to do the whole bow on the barbecue, and the biggest trouble I've had is keeping my tension string from burning. I string the bow backward to induce some reflex. Perhaps there is a more notable increase in limb strength using a slower method, but with the woods I'm using, I'm not sure I want to go to far. Anyway, I may try using Mr. St. Louis method someday, but then again, I may not be that patient. All I know is that heat treating quickly does help somewhat. I am just finishing a 40 inch west-coast bow of yew and sinew that I heat treated the belly. Huge difference from heat treating the bow.

You should only be heat-treating the belly anyway.  You can do a surface temper but it won't work as well