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Main Discussion Area => Flintknapping => Topic started by: jonathan creason on May 05, 2011, 05:27:15 pm

Title: May point challenge?
Post by: jonathan creason on May 05, 2011, 05:27:15 pm

Anyone got a nomination for this month's challenge point? 

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: iowabow on May 05, 2011, 05:35:20 pm

I think we should make the points that tower has been posting.

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: Tower on May 05, 2011, 05:51:33 pm

How about the Montell point?

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: jonathan creason on May 05, 2011, 06:00:13 pm

Montell Williams knaps?  I never knew that......



Dang that was a terrible joke.  Anyway, that sounds good to me.

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: JackCrafty on May 05, 2011, 06:21:15 pm

Montell sounds good.

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: nclonghunter on May 05, 2011, 06:30:54 pm

Never heard of a Montell.

 Perhaps someone can post one to get it right...Thanks

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: Sparrow on May 05, 2011, 06:34:26 pm

Need a picture of a montell  '  Frank

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: JackCrafty on May 05, 2011, 06:52:48 pm

 ;D

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: sailordad on May 05, 2011, 07:43:05 pm

Montell, works for me
now to see if i can make it work on my rock
any one know what the traditional rock would be for this type point?
if i have the right stuff i would like to make it from that

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: Tower on May 05, 2011, 08:17:13 pm

I've found them made of Edwards,pedernales,rootbeer,amoeba even some stuff I haven't seen before.I don't think they really cared as long as it knapped well.

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: sailordad on May 05, 2011, 08:21:44 pm

thanks Tower
ive got a little rootbeer
i'll see if i got a piece the right size for this point

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: cowboy on May 06, 2011, 01:05:48 am

I hate to chime in but would love to join in - just can't guarantee that I'll have time to get anything done, work - sheesh. I've made a few of them buck toothed things surely I have one more in me ;D.

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: Sparrow on May 06, 2011, 02:39:56 am

 Is that an old , native point or a repo ?  '  Frank

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: JackCrafty on May 06, 2011, 11:34:11 am

I think it's real.  Some Texas artifacts look like they were made last week, especially when found where it seldom rains or freezes.

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: JustinNC on May 06, 2011, 03:56:47 pm

Seems simple enough :-\

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: Tower on May 06, 2011, 06:54:48 pm

Ok here's my Montell. Made from Pedernales flint from Junction TX. I wanted it to be a little thinner but things didn't seem to work out today. I might try another.

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: JackCrafty on May 06, 2011, 07:47:20 pm

I wanted it to be a little thinner but things didn't seem to work out today...

Yeah, maybe work on the symmetry too... ::)

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: sailordad on May 06, 2011, 08:02:55 pm

yup im with patrick

i just dont have the cool pic to post like he does  ;D

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: jamie on May 06, 2011, 11:43:29 pm

tiny notches with abo tools is my nemisis, so im in for the challenge

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: Sparrow on May 09, 2011, 07:49:49 pm

Tower   Is that big for a montell ?  (Are they all that big ?)  '  Frank

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: Tower on May 09, 2011, 08:47:14 pm

It' not commen but - have seen one 6" long. Most of the large Montells I've found have been resharpened or broken above the tangs.The avg. Length of the complete ones I've found are about 2.5 to 3 inch

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: piper on May 09, 2011, 09:21:36 pm

tower I think if I was you I would try again......LOL ...And give that one away..... nice point............Curt

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: nclonghunter on May 09, 2011, 10:13:38 pm

That Texas rock rules..!!! beautiful point.

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: FlintWalker on May 09, 2011, 11:42:22 pm

Does last May count??? ;D
 Made this one from some Texas concrete I get from N2 (Wade)

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: seider on May 10, 2011, 10:10:32 am

tower that is nice.  Made it to bend to get some rock. your brother is breaking all mine now.  I know how he feels know when i was breaking all of his.

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: Tower on May 10, 2011, 10:29:07 am

Welcome to my world. He has been making gravel out of my rocks for a long time!

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: seider on May 10, 2011, 04:46:31 pm

i can not gripe much i have broke alot of his.

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: iowabow on May 11, 2011, 12:21:52 am

Here is my try 125 gr so I can use it this deer season. (http://)

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: iowabow on May 11, 2011, 12:25:43 am

Ok here is my shot at it.  It is 125grains. (http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb423/Iowabow1/2011-05-10204312.jpg)

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: sailordad on May 11, 2011, 02:25:33 am

now thats a damn nice looking bucktooth point  :o

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: jamie on May 11, 2011, 08:47:26 am

wow well done guys. been trying to get some knapping done but spending too much time fishin and eatin "weeds". made a biface for one of these but havent had time to finish it

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: nclonghunter on May 11, 2011, 10:34:57 am

Great points posted...

I have had two that were working out nice, then I broke a tang off. Still trying, but the Rhyolite supply is getting low.

It's never a bad point, it's just a bad flake!  :P

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: JustinNC on May 11, 2011, 10:49:51 am

Quote from: nclonghunter on May 11, 2011, 10:34:57 am

Great points posted...

I have had two that were working out nice, then I broke a tang off. Still trying, but the Rhyolite supply is getting low.

It's never a bad point, it's just a bad flake!  :P

You done beat that football all gone?

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: Tower on May 11, 2011, 12:52:35 pm

Nice Montells, I'd give both them a home.

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: Sparrow on May 11, 2011, 03:36:20 pm

Got mine going,have to do the notching.  '  Frank

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: iowabow on May 11, 2011, 06:43:42 pm

I think I will put my on an arrow!

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: Sparrow on May 12, 2011, 02:47:42 am

 Starting on a new montell. Kinda busted off a ear maybe going in a little too deep. Better luck tomorrow.  '  Frank

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: Tower on May 12, 2011, 08:44:26 am

Sparrow, I've found Montells with shoulders not barbs.

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: nclonghunter on May 12, 2011, 06:09:05 pm

Well the Rhyolite beast has been gracious once again. Here is my Montell or something close.. ::)

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: wvbowhntr on May 12, 2011, 06:24:05 pm

Those are all some good loking points. Lyman that rhyolite does look alot like the rock ive been getting but all Ive made so far is gravel. Its a beast to thin.

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: mullet on May 13, 2011, 12:32:34 am

I've got some preforms nocked out, but, it's in the high nineties. Hard to get motivated after work. :-[

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: JackCrafty on May 13, 2011, 01:20:05 am

 :-\  Broke two attempts today.  I'll try again this weekend... ;D

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: JackCrafty on May 15, 2011, 04:54:19 am

Here's mine.  This was the fourth attempt.  Modern tools.   ;D

(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg112/jackcrafty/2011_04_14%20Making%20Arrows/985_1639.jpg)
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg112/jackcrafty/2011_04_14%20Making%20Arrows/985_1640.jpg)
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg112/jackcrafty/2011_04_14%20Making%20Arrows/985_1641.jpg)
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg112/jackcrafty/2011_04_14%20Making%20Arrows/985_1643.jpg)
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg112/jackcrafty/2011_04_14%20Making%20Arrows/985_1646.jpg)

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: cowboy on May 15, 2011, 11:30:51 am

Looks good Patrick! I've got two done but they look like crappola - can't seem to get them bases right. Gonna try again today..

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: cowboy on May 15, 2011, 05:33:27 pm

I QUIT! Not really, won't stop till I get one that's right. Made those two little ugly one's, stalled notches, funky lookin bases, then had one going about right and blew the ears off of it. Hahaha - these things are tougher than I thought. Hats off to you guys that have succesfully finished one ;D.

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: nclonghunter on May 15, 2011, 06:12:13 pm

Cowboy, all those are sweet, I'd say you just posted yours!

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: Tower on May 16, 2011, 02:09:38 pm

You guys are posting some excellent points. They make me want to go arrowhead hunting. It's been a while & they are giving me the jitters.

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: nclonghunter on May 17, 2011, 01:17:48 am

Tried another Montell and was much happier with the notching. Its not a large point but I liked the way it turned out. It's another Rhyolite beast.. >:D

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: cowboy on May 17, 2011, 08:57:37 am

Wow! That rhyolite reaking of tough, i can almost taste it. Good point from it though..

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: iowabow on May 17, 2011, 10:34:47 am

That stuff looks like it would kill my wrist when pressure flaking it.  Looks good

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: JustinNC on May 17, 2011, 10:56:48 am

Quote from: iowabow on May 17, 2011, 10:34:47 am

That stuff looks like it would kill my wrist when pressure flaking it.  Looks good

We can hook you up! I got some that wont flake worth a darn with percussion...I mean it will but most of the time it's not a clean flake....but, imho....pressure flakes awsome..ok maybe not awesome but a lot better than it percussion flakes. Want some?  ;D

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: maddog314 on May 17, 2011, 08:01:41 pm

here is mine.

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: JackCrafty on May 18, 2011, 01:53:48 am

Cool!  I like the variety of materials.

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: Sparrow on May 18, 2011, 02:08:26 am

 Got a knapping window today, figured I'd attempt the challenge again.Knocked a spall off a big chunk of glass buttes and thought  "Wow, that's a big chunk,lets see what it makes,Made a tomahawk head. Oh well, I will try the challenge again tomorrow.  '  Frank

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: jamie on May 18, 2011, 08:59:43 am

nice hawk  ;D
nother piece of pedernales. really happy with the notches on this one , cause notches give me trouble with abo tools. the outer ones were done with an ulna notcher and the inner one an antler punch. snapped the ear when i was taking a few of the last punches out of the center notch. makes it look authentic though


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/coyotebow/knapping/Photo0062.jpg)

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: AncientArcher76 on May 18, 2011, 09:29:40 am

U guys are doing some great work I cant wait to get into the "challenge"  a buddy of mine "Jack" who owns  StonesandBones.com found a crowfield point the other day amazing!  Maybe fluted points arent the best choice...LOL 

ps Great work Boys!

Russ

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: Tower on May 18, 2011, 08:11:00 pm

Sweet , love the looks of that point.

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: cowboy on May 18, 2011, 11:05:09 pm

You guys keep hammerin em out. Good stuff!

Title: Re: May point challenge?
Post by: AncientArcher76 on May 20, 2011, 10:25:25 am

Some how some way I gotta get some stone I will join u guys!  LOL

Russ