Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: Holten101 on May 16, 2011, 03:53:27 pm
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This Sunday we had our annual 3D target event at Lejre, DK which is a historic open air museum, with a walk through of 10.000 years of Danish history incl. houses and settings from the Iron Age, Stone Age, Viking Age and 1800th century, historic workshops and domestic animals.
Its, to my knowledge, the only 3D event in Denmark, which activly advocates the use of wooden bows…glass/wood laminates and alu/carbon arrows are allowed, but penalised.
I think we had 110 archers attending. The weather was awsome and spirits high
I used my newly finished ”One Eyed Bishop” (http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,25630.0.html) and came in at a fourth place…which im proud of;-).
Morning…30 min to start:
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(http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af73/Holten101/P1000236.jpg)
Breakfast;-):
(http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af73/Holten101/P1000245.jpg)
Some bows:
(http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af73/Holten101/P1000246.jpg)
Some REAL bows:
(http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af73/Holten101/P1000247.jpg)
A good mix:
(http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af73/Holten101/P1000248.jpg)
In the woods:
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(http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af73/Holten101/P1000256.jpg)
Keeping score:
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(http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af73/Holten101/P1000259.jpg)
Dugout canooes:
(http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af73/Holten101/P1000244.jpg)
Cloud shooting:
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(http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af73/Holten101/P1000252.jpg)
A crack junior shoot receving his prize:
(http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af73/Holten101/P1000261.jpg)
Traditional is alive and well in these parts of the woods….we just need more events aimed at primitive archery;-)
Thanks for watching, and sorry if this topic has to be moved.
Cheers
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Ah, very very nice. Excellent to see archers dressed in historic kit, too.
Dane
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Very cool, glad to see this.....
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This is a great post. Excellent pictures and so good to see something like this taking place. Is hunting allowed in Denmark with wood bows? If so, what does your season look like?
Thanks for a great post.
Parnell
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Great pics! Thanks for shareing!
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great post and pics.
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Looks like a fine time. Thanks for posting.
Lane
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Great post and brilliant pic's, Holten - thanks so much for posting them!
Fourth place with the Bishop, eh? Nice going!!
Is hunting allowed in Denmark with wood bows? If so, what does your season look like?
Thanks for a great post.
Parnell
I hope this answers your question, Parnell. It's in reference to Denmark ;)
"1967 – Hunting with bow and arrow is made illegal but
is immediately put on a dispensation system. 1999 – Roe
deer and lesser game regulated. 2005 – A study over five
hunting seasons has been completed on the hunting
roe deer (capreolus capreolus) with bow and arrow. The
study demonstrated a wound rate of approximately 5%
(comparable or better than the commonly used means of
harvesting roe deer in Europe)."
Technically, it IS legal but I don't know whether it's only in relation to Roe as above. Holten, can you elaborate for us please?
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That looks like a really great event.Thanks for sharing. Jawge
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Great pictures, really like the "cloud" shooting ones. always cool to watch 10-20 people launch arrrows longe range at the same time. Thanks for posting.
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It was really neat to see archers from another land than I'm in, enjoying the same things I do.
VB
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oh man, i wanna go! great grand father was from there, id love to visit!
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Add yet another awesome archery event that I missed!!!
My Viking ancestors must have left a few "seeds" behind before moving to America, many of the shooters there looked like my family! Here's hoping this event keeps growing, Holten.
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would have been awesome if everyone there, stood in a line and fired arrows all at once. that would have been too much cool!
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Parnell and HatchA:
You can get a bow hunting permit in Denmark if you have a normal hunting license (a normal hunting license requires passing a theoretical and practical test on wildlife and gun handling). To get the bow permit you have to pass a bow hunting test (another theoretical and practical test). The pratical part of getting the permit is were it gets hard.
The permit is for ONE of the following bow types, compound, recurve or longbow, with or without sights (or any combination of these). The test have to be passed using broadheads on a roe deer size paper target (roe deer is considderably smaller than whitetail). The kill zone is the size of a spread hand and the target is positioned at random ranges between 10-25 m, you get 6 shots at varying ranges and have to hit that kill zone with at least 5...or you are out (you cant practice on the test targets and you are under supervision)!
The bow used have to output 40 joules with fixed-blade heads or 70 joules with mechanicals and blunts (small game only)!
This is no problem with a compound, but is exstremly hard with traditional gear and only for the most persistent (only a handfull in DK). I hunt with a compound...and plan to try (again) with trad gear this year.
Typically you train and try out with a glass bow and carbon arrows (every little advantage counts)....if you pass with that, you can actually put it aside and go hunting with your selfbow, since the permit is for bow type....not a specific bow, as long as it yeilds 40 joules!
Getting a permit for traditional gear in Denmark is very unusual .....also something to be proud of I think .... oh yeah....you have to pass the test again every 5 yrs;-)!
Anything up to and including Roe deer can be hunted with bow. For mamals and large birds (like geese) three bladed BH's are required (things like flint and glass points are prohibited). I know that the danish bowhunters association is working on having our three larger species of deer included....but I have been told (hear say only) that the compound fraction (which is the largest by far) are willing to admit restrictions on trad gear, in order to gain acces to aformentioned species.
Hope that is information enough for you:-)
Cheers
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would have been awesome if everyone there, stood in a line and fired arrows all at once. that would have been too much cool!
Yeah...but with 110 archers we had a lack of space;-). Two groups fired in succesion at the long range (150 m), and people with weaker bows fired at 100 m and kids again at 50 m (iirc).
You still got a feeling of how it must have been at Agincourt;-) (or maybe not...but it was fun).
Cheers
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Cool photos. I like it that some people dressed in traditional clothing as well as using wood bows. Thanks for sharing.
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Holten, thanks for sharing. Looks like fun times.
Eric
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Holten, sounds like a fantastic outing. I'd love to see one like that here some day.
It really sounds like getting permitted to hunt Roe with Traditional gear is quite the accomplishment. I agree with you that anyone who does achieve it should be proud and happy indeed. Very, very interesting stuff.
Thanks a ton for sharing your day and all the pics!
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Excellent information - I'm following Hatch's thread and had wondered. Sounds like a difficult test, for sure. I suppose though, difficult is better than none at all.
Thanks again for the excellent post.
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Thanks for typing all that info, Holten. Very interesting!
I didn't know that you need a firearms license in order to gain a bowhunter license. Kind of unfair to those who don't shoot guns, eh?
Got some questions for you that might seem like hijacking this thread so I'll send you a PM ;)
Steve.
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It looked like a great time for all. The pictures looked familiar and when I saw the fire pit I realized this is where my friend Claude Van Order participated in a reenactment for Vikings. He was there collecting Danish flint a few years ago and giving Knapping Demostrations with another Danish Gentleman.
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Wow! Also anyone that has the cahones to make a twenty Meter shot on a deer that small deserves a hunting permit. IMO that is plain stupid government, BS to require that.
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Awesome. Thanks for sharing.