Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: HatchA on June 02, 2011, 10:17:25 am
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I'm wondering if the likes of Oak and other hard woods have similar abilities to stand against Mamma Nature as Osage does.
There are Osage fenceposts that've been in the ground for donkeys years and still manage to keep together, let alone make fine bows.
Basically, I want to make a wooden grave marker and I'd like it to last a few years. I don't have easy access to Osage boards, otherwise I'd get a 4'x2'x2" piece to use. I'm pretty sure it'd out-live me.
Any advice would be welcome.
Steve.
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Hatch:
The answere is NO.
Most white hard wood (if not all )rot quite fast in contact with the ground.
Osage is the best choice that I know of.
Black Locust would be my second choice.
A good piece of Eastern Red Ceder would be my third choice.
Someone else may know of other woods that will last in contact with the ground.
David
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Thanks David.
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If you could get hold of swamp cypress it will last twice you're life span I can show some that are so old the carving is weathered away.Ron
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They say the best outdoor decks are made of ipe. I guess ipe would work if you can get it in the board size you want.
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Thanks fellas.
Our oldest Golden Retriever died today at just over 13 years old. I'm burying her in the back garden with three other pets and I think it's about time I put up a marker for them all.
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White Oak is a good outdoor wood but the ground contact is what will do it in. I'd suggest using pressure treated lumber for the part that goes into the ground and White Oak for the above ground portion making sure the oak isn't in ground contact.
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I would say cypress it's really resilient
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Aye, in Ireland - most (if not all) of the wood used for fenceposts, fencing and all that kind of timber is pressure treated pine. As far as I can see, it wastes away just like any other wood... checking and drying out to the point of splitting. It truly is a joke here - soft woods used for these kinds of things cos they need pretty much constant replacing over the years. Having said that - we don't have Osage as a native wood but I'm hoping to change that in my garden, in the future ;)
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Aye, in Ireland - most (if not all) of the wood used for fenceposts, fencing and all that kind of timber is pressure treated pine. As far as I can see, it wastes away just like any other wood... checking and drying out to the point of splitting. It truly is a joke here - soft woods used for these kinds of things cos they need pretty much constant replacing over the years. Having said that - we don't have Osage as a native wood but I'm hoping to change that in my garden, in the future ;)
You can make up for the lack of durability in the wood somewhat by the finish you use. It's a two step finish that consists of coating the wood with epoxy (west system is what I'm familiar with, I don't know what's available over there) then covering the epoxy with a true marine grade spar varnish for UV protection. The best places to find these finishes are stores that cater to yachts. It's not a maintenance free finish, but properly applied it is very durable. As far as the part that gets stuck in the ground, I'd suggest coming up with a design that allows you to use a sacrificial part that can be replaced as needed.
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Thanks Stretch. Yacht finish (French polishing) had crossed my mind at one point. I might go down that route on a nice piece of something hard :)
Upon closer inspection of where our Pet Sematary is, I can use one of the shitty fenceposts already there, as a standing point and fix the marker to that.
Appreciate all the responses.
Steve.
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Why don't you build the above ground part out of your favorite hardwood and finished in your favorite weatherproof method? Drill a hole in the bottom and mount a metal rod sticking out the bottom. Select a pipe a little larger than the rod and bury it in the ground. Rustproof your rod and insert it in the pipe. The part above ground is what you want, what's below ground isn't wood at all. Just a thought, stolen from 3d targets.
George
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Rustproof your rod and insert it in the pipe.
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I needed that!!
Thanks George ;D
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Not at all man, it made me smile biggly!! :D:D:D
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I would say Black Locust there is a horse hitchin post on my friends property that has been there for over thirty years and its still solid :o Mind you its in western oregon and sees allot of rain
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There is a hitching post at the church next door that has been there well over a hundred years. Cedar of some kind. I used cedar for my own pet marker with a removable aluminum plate so that I could add names and legends as needed.
Sorry about the golden Steve.
Lane
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Thanks Lane