Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Bow Nut on June 23, 2011, 01:55:09 pm
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Here are two. The first I know is a oak I think red oak what do yall think? the second I am not sure of If it is somthing good I want it though and it might not be there long so any quick help would be great. the leaves start first after that is other pics of the same tree.
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The first one is red oak,
The second one,,, based on the leaf I would say chestnut oak.
Not a 100 % sure on the second one
Johnny
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the 4th pic looks like slippery elm to me, based on the leaf, but i am no expert.. Looks like you are gonna get some bows out of that
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is slippery elm as good as other elms?
Basically the second one is just a large brach that broke off that tree about 20 foot long and 10 inch in diameter straight to. I will get it.
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oh yea.. the other name is Red Elme.. goood wood
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Any elm is good bow wood. Beech leaves look alot liek that as well, but the bark si smoother.
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yup,
looks like red oak and elm, which I dont know the species. good wood!
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Second one seems to be elm.
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The first is red oak and next is red elm or slippery elm. It's a good bow the white wood or heart. I've made bows for each and together. The enter locking grains a beast to split even worst dry. So I'd split it up now. I've got a red elm down to floor tiller now.
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her are pics of what I was able to harvist still think it is elm? the oak was to much to manage as I had little time and it was on the side of a road in atlanta oh and it was about 2 to 3 food in diameter so I got what I could out of the branch from the elm.
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first one is not red oak it is pin oak..red oaks have a turkey foot leaf....at least the southern variety ....plus the bark isn't as tight as in the pick..looks just like a pin oak in Ga...gut
ga pin oaks have very small leaves these are very large and the bark is really not smooth on most the tree jsut the branches which is what you saw should have gotten a better pic of the bark sorry. Pin oak is much smoother than that here in ga
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yep, still elm
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awsome Im excited about using it and even more that I can identifie it now thanks to you fine fellas. I love this site all of yall are excellent people and very helpful. thanks A bunch
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I say Red Oak also, the Pin Oak I have seen have smaller leaves and have sharp pointy things on them that hurt like heck to step on barefoot.
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where are you in Ga....I can trade you some mulberry for some elm....I am in Newnan....gut
I am in atlanta I drive through newnan all the time on my way to our hunting property in marion county. we go down 41 one exit past the 47 exit that you are probably off of. I will trad some but I want to make a few out of it as well. send me a PM
thanks
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The first tree is one of the red oaks! Either red or scarlet, I'm not sure. Any of the oaks that have "pins" at the end of its lobes are of the red oak variety. The white oaks have rounded lobes with no pins. Most oaks are divided into red or white oaks with many varieties of each.
I'm not takt familiar with elms but it looks like red. If it has corky wings on the small branches it is winged elm. Lots of that in and around the Atlanta area.
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not sure what you mean by corkey wing but they looked like pretty normal smooth branches. how many staves should a 12" diameter log like that yeald some of the rings are dang near 3/4" thick in areas. and what is better a combo of heart and sap wood or all sap wood for the bow.
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I'd split it in half first. You can peel the bark right off this time of year. Seal the ends and back. Once you get the bark off you will be able to tell how many staves but at least 2 or 3 from each half. Use the wood right under the bark as your back.
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Ok thanks Pat I cant wait to work with it. I have only made osage self bows as of yet and only two other than my scraps bow how durable is it can I put any reflex in it or just let the stave do what it wants and tiller it accordingly? oh and is 6 months long enough to let it cure?
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This is the first elm bow I made. It was for a trade bow on TradGang earlier this year. It is 60"t/t and I think 55@28" if memory serves me well. Red elm is a fantastic bow wood and that is coming from a confirmed osage junkie! :D
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/TGtradebowelm001-2.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/TGtradebowelm003g.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/TGtradebowelm002-2.jpg)
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oh wow beautifull bow is that the cambian layer on the back or did you do that your self.
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The backing is giraffe print tissue paper I glued to the back for decoration.
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looks good I like it
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Pat that is an AWESOME bow, Love everything about it
Johnny
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Pat that bow is beautiful.. Wow