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Title: Cherokee Tiger, Bow
Post by: Pat B on July 08, 2007, 09:40:46 pm
  This is a Cherokee style D bow with side nocks. I made this to donate to the Powder Creek Archery Club for their shoot in 2 weeks. Joe and Linda Brittan and their son and daughter are excellent ambassadors for the sport of archery. They all shoot and compete, not only with trad bows but on the compound circuit. They are putting on the Powder Creek Traditional Shoot as they have for the last 6 to 8 years(maybe longer) with help from their friends and club members. So, this bow is for them to raffle off to help with their expenses. ;)
   She is osage, 60" t/t, Draws 28#@24" and shoots very well. 1 1/4" above and below the handle wrap with a gradual taper to 7/8" just below the nocks. I love these simple bows. ;D  The tiger stripe is more of the animal print tissue paper and the handle wrap is hemp twine.        Pat 

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Title: Re: Cherokee Tiger, Bow
Post by: Hillbilly on July 08, 2007, 09:54:14 pm
Very cool, Pat. Good looking little bow, and a good cause.
Title: Re: Cherokee Tiger, Bow
Post by: david w. on July 08, 2007, 10:48:46 pm
thats a really really cool bow pat b.

tigers, cheetahs now you need a lion bow!

the strings are great. i served it and it workin great now
Title: Re: Cherokee Tiger, Bow
Post by: mullet on July 08, 2007, 11:01:03 pm
  Nice loking bow Pat.You have those "D"bows down.
Title: Re: Cherokee Tiger, Bow
Post by: Auggie on July 08, 2007, 11:05:16 pm
Hey Pat, how can I get a raffle ticket? I never win anything,but its good to help. Auggie.
Title: Re: Cherokee Tiger, Bow
Post by: Gordon on July 08, 2007, 11:16:24 pm
That bow is so cool - some lucky youngster is going to be really happy with that one.
Title: Re: Cherokee Tiger, Bow
Post by: Pat B on July 09, 2007, 12:16:34 am
Thanks Guys. Like I said, I love these simple D-bows almost as much as I like seeing the smiles on a kids face when he gets a new bow...like Shannon's (SawFly) little friend. Auggie, I will put a ticket in the pot with your name on it. If you win I'll send it to you. ;)   
David, I have zebra, giraffe and cow patterns that I haven't used. I wouldn't be lion to ya! ;D
   I've been on a roll lately. :o I have a few more I'll be posting soon.       Pat
Title: Re: Cherokee Tiger, Bow
Post by: jpitts on July 09, 2007, 01:10:05 am
Very cool Pat
Title: Re: Cherokee Tiger, Bow
Post by: Justin Snyder on July 09, 2007, 01:40:05 am
You are such a crafty kind of guy Pat.  The bow looks great.  I hope it brings in lots of money. Justin
Title: Re: Cherokee Tiger, Bow
Post by: FlintWalker on July 09, 2007, 02:20:53 am
Who you callin a fly!  ;D  Really, I love the bow and like you, I get more out of giving one to a kid than ever making one for myself.  When I ws about 9 or 10, an old guy down the road from my hous used to make them all the time. The first bow I ever had, he gave me. In fact, he looked just like you Pat, long beard and all. His name was Jessie Long, I always called him "Uncle Jessie".
 I will never forget that first bow.   
Title: Re: Cherokee Tiger, Bow
Post by: Marc St Louis on July 09, 2007, 06:58:46 am
Nice bow Pat. Decorations are nice
Title: Re: Cherokee Tiger, Bow
Post by: Pappy on July 09, 2007, 07:41:16 am
Very nice bow Pat tiller looks great and mighty nice of you to donate it. :) :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: Cherokee Tiger, Bow
Post by: AndrewS on July 09, 2007, 08:16:55 am
A fine bow, great tiller for such a bow and the decoration is amazing ;)
Title: Re: Cherokee Tiger, Bow
Post by: GregB on July 09, 2007, 08:44:44 am

Pat, I knew they had Indians and tigers in India, but never knew they also had a Cherokee tribe of Indians! ;D

Sweet looking bow with great tiller! ;)

Shannon, "Uncle Jessie" with his gifts of bows in those early years has probably gone a long way towards your current interest in making bows and hunting.
Title: Re: Cherokee Tiger, Bow
Post by: Pat B on July 09, 2007, 10:40:14 am
Thanks everyone. Just think, If everyone gave a kid a bow there would be lots of happy kids and the seeds would be planted for the next generation.   Pat

ps, Sorry Shannon. It was a long day! ::)
Title: Re: Cherokee Tiger, Bow
Post by: DanaM on July 09, 2007, 12:04:44 pm
Looks great Pat, the side nocks are very slick. Perhaps Joe and Linda could provide a picture of lucky winner?
Title: Re: Cherokee Tiger, Bow
Post by: Pat B on July 09, 2007, 12:11:48 pm
Dana, I'll see if I can get a pic to post here in a few weeks.  Thanks for the comments. The side nocke are so simple and work very well. On another bow like this I built I placed the side nocks to help correct prop twist through out the bow.     Pat
Title: Re: Cherokee Tiger, Bow
Post by: DCM on July 09, 2007, 02:26:22 pm
Nice as usual Pat.

I wondered about limb twist on the side nock thing.  I guess it's a matter of having the depth of one nock center or nearly center the limb.
Title: Re: Cherokee Tiger, Bow
Post by: Kegan on July 09, 2007, 03:07:18 pm
Wow- so simple, yet extremely appealing ;D!
Title: Re: Cherokee Tiger, Bow
Post by: duffontap on July 09, 2007, 03:17:20 pm
Man Pat, You can tiller a bow.  Very nice indeed. 

       J. D.
Title: Re: Cherokee Tiger, Bow
Post by: welch2 on July 09, 2007, 03:50:57 pm
Pretty bow ,I agree giving bows ta kids is a great thing .      So are the the side nocks on opposite sides?


Ralph
Title: Re: Cherokee Tiger, Bow
Post by: Pat B on July 09, 2007, 04:20:01 pm
Yes Ralph. The side nocks are on the opposit sides.  David. You don't get much adjustment with the side nocks but being opposit each other and if the twist is considered before you locate the nocks, some untwisting occurs. Plus by being on opposit sides the string always crosses the handle. Kegan, That's what I find so appealing about these bows, simplicity!
  Thanks Josh but after seeing your last bow and BOM I could learn a few lessons from you.    Pat
Title: Re: Cherokee Tiger, Bow
Post by: OldBow on July 09, 2007, 06:41:28 pm
What a great donation!  Very nicely tillered, of course! Bookmarked for July Self Bow of the Month, naturally!
Title: Re: Cherokee Tiger, Bow
Post by: koan on July 09, 2007, 08:02:04 pm
Really nice bow Pat, I like that simple disign too...though I'd argue with most that say they are easier to tiller....Brian
Title: Re: Cherokee Tiger, Bow
Post by: a finnish native on July 13, 2007, 09:16:17 pm
good lookin' basic bow. them simple D bows are nice to make.
Title: Re: Cherokee Tiger, Bow
Post by: Pat B on July 13, 2007, 09:29:30 pm
Santuu, They shoot surprisingly well for such a simple design. This was a basic style for the Native Americans in the Southeastern US. They even built 68" heavy war bows of the same style. Most were made with hickory, ash, elm and locust and probably other hardwoods.     Pat
Title: Re: Cherokee Tiger, Bow
Post by: bowstick on July 13, 2007, 11:45:22 pm
Nice bow! 

What exactly is the tiger stripe pattern?? Like a cloth?  Do you glue it to the bow?

Thanks

Justin
Title: Re: Cherokee Tiger, Bow
Post by: Pat B on July 14, 2007, 12:30:26 am
Justin, The tiger stripe material is animal print tissue paper glued with watered down Elmer's white glue. The tissue paper is very thin and tears easily when wet so getting it to lay flat is difficult. Pat
Title: Re: Cherokee Tiger, Bow
Post by: heavybow on July 14, 2007, 07:25:35 am
Pat thats a nice looking bow. marlon
Title: Re: Cherokee Tiger, Bow
Post by: Pat B on July 14, 2007, 09:23:02 am
Thanks Marlon. Just trying something different and I think it worked. ;D    Pat
Title: Re: Cherokee Tiger, Bow
Post by: Don Wilson on July 15, 2007, 03:53:47 pm
Hello PatB, That's a cool looking bow. Skyler is building a bow for his cousin, who is female, and we think this would look great and she would love the print on the limbs. Could you go into a little more detail for us?????THX Skyler and Don ;D
Title: Re: Cherokee Tiger, Bow
Post by: Pat B on July 15, 2007, 04:19:35 pm
Don and Skyler, The print is animal print tissue paper my wife ordered from her art supply house. You may be able to get it locally from Ben Franklin's or Michael's , both craft and art supply stores. If you can't find any I can send you some.
   The easiest way that I found to deal with the tissue paper is to cut it into pieces about 8" -10" long. Cut along a stripe so you can blend and conceal the overlap when applier. I used watered down Elmers glue, size the bow and lay down a piece of the tissue. Once wet, the tissue tears real easily so you have to put it down carefully the first time and not try to move it. I have found that you will have to live with some wrinkles. Practice of something else to get the hang before you apply it to your bow.  After it has dried, I covered the whole back with a thin layer of TBIII then when it dried, I added Tru-Oil over that.
If you have any more questions, please let me know and I'll try to answer them for you.   Pat

Way to "Pass it on" Skyler. I'm sure your cousin will love it and you for your generosity! Good for you! ;D
   Pat
Title: Re: Cherokee Tiger, Bow
Post by: SimonUK on July 15, 2007, 07:19:12 pm
Love that bow Pat. You're right , the simple ones are often the most appealing.
Title: Re: Cherokee Tiger, Bow
Post by: Pat B on July 16, 2007, 12:43:38 am
You're absolutely right Simon...but the tiger stripes don't hurt! ;D  You know, I find myself looking farther back to see how simple, but still effective, I can go. Kinda reverse evolution. ::)     Pat
Title: Re: Cherokee Tiger, Bow
Post by: snedeker on July 16, 2007, 10:30:46 am
nice one Pat.  I'll have to try those side nocks somtime.

Dave
Title: Re: Cherokee Tiger, Bow
Post by: Dustybaer on August 04, 2007, 04:38:08 am
absolutely gorgeous.  your finishes are getting more creative with every bow.  pretty innovative for a redneck  ;D
Title: Re: Cherokee Tiger, Bow
Post by: George Tsoukalas on August 04, 2007, 11:19:53 am
Excellent bow. Love that classic bend in the handle tiller. Jawge
Title: Re: Cherokee Tiger, Bow
Post by: venisonburger on August 04, 2007, 12:26:13 pm
Very nice bow Pat, I think I'm gonna try the side nock style on my next bow, I like it.
VB