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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: johnston on November 30, 2011, 01:12:47 pm

Title: Hickory Board Question
Post by: johnston on November 30, 2011, 01:12:47 pm
Just picked up an order of hic boards and was wondering about
the grain. I have seen online sellers that had hic good enough
for self bows and other hic that they sold cheaper for backed
bows.

How bad can the grain be for a backed Hickory board bow?
Thanks.

Lane
Title: Re: Hickory Board Question
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on November 30, 2011, 01:55:14 pm
Tough question to answer. My experinece with backed and unbacked hickory tells me to watch for extra sharp run ups or outs. I have made a few bows with both run ups and outs that are fine, actually I never have broke a hickory bow of any sort. If you can fine a board with relativley straight grain you can probably tie it knots.
Title: Re: Hickory Board Question
Post by: Buckeye Guy on November 30, 2011, 02:39:13 pm
I may have to agree with PD ?!!! Oh no !!
Hickory is tough stuff !
Try it you'll like it !!
Guy
Title: Re: Hickory Board Question
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on November 30, 2011, 03:25:30 pm
Thanks Guy! Nobody ever agrees with me. Im flattered!
Title: Re: Hickory Board Question
Post by: George Tsoukalas on November 30, 2011, 07:03:28 pm
Max of 2 run outs per limb is what I look for in a potential selfbow board. I wouldn't buy a board I couldn't choose. Jawge
Title: Re: Hickory Board Question
Post by: johnston on November 30, 2011, 10:15:09 pm
But Mr. T out of the four 4"x1"x 10 foot hic boards I received there are 19 straight grained staves
and many more than that that are useable w/backing. By my math I will have $3.11 in the really
good staves and all else is free. I like free.

These fellers own an almost fully automated cabinet shop and one huge table has racks down
both sides full of red/white oak, maple, birch and sometimes hickory or cherry pieces that are
2 1/2" by 8 foot and to them all of it is scrap. They pay somebody to haul it off. If I call and that
machine is not in use I can pick through for free or at any time I can just load up and go through
it at home. For free. I am real happy about this development.

Lane

Title: Re: Hickory Board Question
Post by: Parnell on November 30, 2011, 11:07:19 pm
I've made hick board bows with ridiculous runoff.  They were my first bows and they shot fine.  They did break over time.  I found a perfectly straight grained board cut it mostly for backing strips but saved a 5/8 section and made a good bend through the handle bow with pencil tips.  I'd follow Jawge's advice for a durable bow and I'll add - give the belly a grade A heat treating before the tillering and mid-way through.  Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Hickory Board Question
Post by: johnston on December 01, 2011, 02:45:04 am
Thanks Parnell,Pearlie, Jawge and Buckeye.

I don't know how to edit but in my last post it should read 1" x 10" x 10 ft. Sorry.

Lane

Title: Re: Hickory Board Question
Post by: George Tsoukalas on December 01, 2011, 11:01:48 am
johnston, that's awesome. You did well. I'm just saying that even great cabinet makers don't understand what a bowyer needs. May be a self bowyer who sells boards would. I'm just super picky with boards. :) Jawge
Title: Re: Hickory Board Question
Post by: Buckeye Guy on December 01, 2011, 02:28:36 pm
johnston, that's awesome. You did well. I'm just saying that even great cabinet makers don't understand what a bowyer needs. May be a self bowyer who sells boards would. I'm just super picky with boards. :) Jawge

Jawge
I am super picky with boards
I have worked in a cabinet shop for 25 years and I still have not found a red oak board  that I would try to get a selfbow out of !
Now hickory thats a differant story my friend!!
Guy