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Title: dart head ?anouther ?finished pics
Post by: bubby on January 06, 2012, 09:01:40 pm
so i got an atlatl built, then i got a six foot piece of boo for a dart and i was wondering how heavy of a point do i want on it, any help is appreciated, Bub
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here is my first dart completed plus pics of my atlatl, these are fun to fling ;D
Title: Re: dart head ?
Post by: swamp monkey on January 06, 2012, 09:18:57 pm
Practice tip:   Whittle out a piece of hard wood  ( elm, ash, Osage, hickory etc.) to the same diameter as your front end segment outer diameter.  Make the section 6-8 inches long.  Then whittle down about 3-4 inches of that to a diameter that will fit inside the hollow section of your bamboo.  Make sure it is snug.  Be sure to wrap the bamboo with some artificial or real sinew to prevent splitting.  Before you place it in, whittle the tip to the desired point. 

Stone tip:  same process as above except for the tip.  You still whittle the tip down a bit, but you cut a groove to fit the end of your stone head.  It's easier to explain with pictures.  Holler if you would like that. 
Title: Re: dart head ?
Post by: bubby on January 06, 2012, 09:26:32 pm
thank's, so it's just a round tang, Bub
Title: Re: dart head ?
Post by: swamp monkey on January 07, 2012, 12:25:58 am
yep. real straight forward.  You can fire harden the tips for extra life too
Title: Re: dart head ?
Post by: Ifrit617 on January 07, 2012, 12:28:10 am
I agree with swamp monkey...

I just use fire hardened wood for practice tips.. Cheap durable, effective... what more could you want? ;D ;D Just make sure you have a good wrist snap at the end of your throw and your darts will fly straight... Happy throwing...


Jon
Title: Re: dart head ?
Post by: aaron on January 07, 2012, 01:03:49 pm
i make mine with extra weight- usually inside the boo. try wrapping yours with wire to see the effect,
Title: Re: dart head ?anouther ?
Post by: bubby on January 08, 2012, 05:28:04 pm
just wondering how picky you have to be on dart straightness, as picky as an arrow or not?
Title: Re: dart head ?anouther ?
Post by: Ifrit617 on January 08, 2012, 06:09:13 pm
my darts are not very straight... Obviously you don't want a 90 degree angle in it but a little snakiness is fine... a dart flexes a massive amount in flight so straightness is not much of an issue... just make sure your darts are spined to about 4 or 5 pounds and you'll be all set. to spine a dart take the shaft and push it down on a bathroom scale... It will go up to a max weight, then continue flexing without the weight changing... this is your spine weight... Happy throwing..

Jon
Title: Re: dart head ?anouther ?
Post by: bubby on January 08, 2012, 06:49:17 pm
thank's Jon, later this year we need to make a trade, maybe some knapped points or something for one of you're atlatl's, Bub
Title: Re: dart head ?anouther ?
Post by: swamp monkey on January 08, 2012, 07:07:46 pm
My first set were not real straight.  They worked OK.  As time went on I wanted a set of "going to town" darts so i fancied up a new set.  My experience is similar to Jon's.  Take pride in your work and call it good.

best of luck.
Title: Re: dart head ?anouther ?
Post by: bubby on January 09, 2012, 12:13:11 am
thank's swamp monkey, the boo i got just had a little kink in it, just didn't know if that'd be a problem, and i take pride in all that i do. went out and thru the dart some today, pretty damn fun, first one went about 70 yds and the white oak point stuck in my father in laws 3" irrigation pipe >:D, dart flew pretty good but it's gonna take a little practice to reach any degree of accuracy, Bub
Title: Re: dart head ?anouther ?finished pics
Post by: Ifrit617 on January 09, 2012, 04:26:28 pm
I like how that point came out Bubby, it looks real good.. And we'll work on a trade for sure whenever you want.

Jon
Title: Re: dart head ?anouther ?finished pics
Post by: cracker on January 09, 2012, 05:33:55 pm
Looks like it oughta work just fine nice workmanship. Ron
Title: Re: dart head ?anouther ?finished pics
Post by: swamp monkey on January 09, 2012, 09:01:52 pm
Nice work.  You have an attention to detail for sure.  Keep it up.  You'll make a fine primitive man!
Title: Re: dart head ?anouther ?finished pics
Post by: bubby on January 09, 2012, 09:19:36 pm
thank's guy's, i sent it home with my oldest son to try out, he used to be a pitcher/ shortstop, probablly out thow me by a mile :laugh:, Bub