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Title: Black locust pyramidal 62# 30"
Post by: druid on January 08, 2012, 12:19:22 pm
This is a bow for my friend. Made of low quality wood: ratio of early and late wood is 50:50. 70" ntn, 1 3/5 wide at fades and under 1/2 at nocks. A lot of early draw weight, probably beacuse not taking set, it is little strange for stave like this. Has some twist that added some false stiffnes to the limbs, tiller could be better but I had no nerves to twist it off. Finished with pig fat and bee wax. Stave of this quality took terrible amount of crysals in warbow designs.
(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/2852/dscf1002e.jpg)
(http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/3190/profilnw.jpg)
(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9294/unbrace.jpg)
(http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/1065/brace2.jpg)
(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/9066/fulldrawg.jpg)
Title: Re: Black locust pyramidal 62# 30"
Post by: TurtleCreek on January 08, 2012, 01:46:25 pm
Nice bow, what type of stain or finish did you use?
Title: Re: Black locust pyramidal 62# 30"
Post by: Dazv on January 08, 2012, 01:50:53 pm
another amazing bow did this bow get any crysals in it???
Title: Re: Black locust pyramidal 62# 30"
Post by: mikekeswick on January 08, 2012, 02:40:12 pm
Another nice low set bow, well done.
I've just finished an osage bow with similar poor late/early wood ratio and it kept 1 1/8 reflex...sometimes the wood just doesn't understand the rules!
Title: Re: Black locust pyramidal 62# 30"
Post by: druid on January 08, 2012, 02:41:22 pm
No crysals, thats what impressed me, such a trash stave without crysals... It means that amount of crysals is not proportional to wood density, in this case.
Title: Re: Black locust pyramidal 62# 30"
Post by: Pat B on January 08, 2012, 02:51:21 pm
Seasoned wood properly tillered! I think Dean Torges said that and you, Druid, have hit the nail on the head again with this bow just like every other bow you've posted here on PA.
  Wood is variable so you get different reactions from different woods and even the same wood from the same tree. Being able to take the wood at hand and produce a beautiful, well tillered bow is as much the bowyer as the wood itself. I think lots of folks want to blame the wood(me included) and not the nut behind the drawknife.  ;)
Title: Re: Black locust pyramidal 62# 30"
Post by: ErictheViking on January 08, 2012, 03:57:30 pm
Awesome job with that Druid, tiller is just sweet. the whole thing flows together nicely.
Title: Re: Black locust pyramidal 62# 30"
Post by: JW_Halverson on January 08, 2012, 04:23:24 pm
Bows and bees, neither know it's impossible!

Pat:  I resemble that remark, my drawknife has a loose nut attached to both handles.  (And the computer keyboard/computer chair interface is corrupted.)

I like that bow, Druid.  I like it plenty.
Title: Re: Black locust pyramidal 62# 30"
Post by: Pat B on January 08, 2012, 06:02:56 pm
Me too, John!  ;)
Title: Re: Black locust pyramidal 62# 30"
Post by: toomanyknots on January 08, 2012, 08:38:12 pm
That is one of the most elegant bows I have seen...
Title: Re: Black locust pyramidal 62# 30"
Post by: Dictionary on January 08, 2012, 09:29:55 pm
That is one of the most elegant bows I have seen...
Title: Re: Black locust pyramidal 62# 30"
Post by: DRon knife on January 09, 2012, 12:32:17 am
62#@30" is my numbers,give your buddy another one...lol! I'll trade ya some hop horn 4 it,jk jk
Title: Re: Black locust pyramidal 62# 30"
Post by: randman on January 09, 2012, 02:09:29 am
"Elegant" is a good word to describe all of the bows I've seen Druid post. Even the nobby, Knotty primitive branches.....pure elegance when you see that full draw pic!
Druid I'm using your tip overlays. I really like them. I call them my "Druid Tips"
Title: Re: Black locust pyramidal 62# 30"
Post by: druid on January 09, 2012, 02:28:49 am
@randman: thank you  ;) , these overlays are very usefull, I almost always use them!
DRon, soon you will make something similar, I feel it, just go on my friend!
@Dictionary, toomanyknots, JW, Eric: thanky you, I am doing my best. This good company here makes me feel usefull.  :)
@Pat: you said well, even in the same tree there are differents. I hope soon to post my experiment with the other stave of this quality (there is a mess in my cabin but I am pretty sure it is its half-brother), that is warbow design 100+# with a lot of crysals and still holding natural reflex.  :o
Title: Re: Black locust pyramidal 62# 30"
Post by: soy on January 09, 2012, 09:50:10 pm
Nice job great bends no set you r the man ;)
Title: Re: Black locust pyramidal 62# 30"
Post by: Will H on January 09, 2012, 10:23:56 pm
Nice work as always Druid! Fine job, fine job :) you sure do crank those bows out fast!
Title: Re: Black locust pyramidal 62# 30"
Post by: seabass on January 10, 2012, 12:26:06 am
Druid,you make some nice looking bows my friend.keep them coming,Steve
Title: Re: Black locust pyramidal 62# 30"
Post by: Keenan on January 10, 2012, 12:35:32 am
Druid, you are a bow making machine. I always love seeing your work. Top line as usual. love your photography as well
Title: Re: Black locust pyramidal 62# 30"
Post by: Pappy on January 10, 2012, 07:35:27 am
Very nice work,tiller is sweet,he should love that one. :) :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: Black locust pyramidal 62# 30"
Post by: coaster500 on January 10, 2012, 12:26:15 pm
druid you take this thing to another level.... simple, sweet elegance....  Very, very well done Sir!!
Title: Re: Black locust pyramidal 62# 30"
Post by: Elktracker on January 10, 2012, 05:11:17 pm
Man you got some major tallent excellent tiller! Bow looks great! I also like the stain Nice job!

Josh
Title: Re: Black locust pyramidal 62# 30"
Post by: dbb on January 10, 2012, 07:01:44 pm
Beautiful bow!...again.
And this one even looks civilized  ;)
My thinking is that your "substandard wood"as you put it benefitted much from your choosen layout,
and in combination with your skill at tillering made this pretty bow perform.

/Mikael

Title: Re: Black locust pyramidal 62# 30"
Post by: druid on January 11, 2012, 11:00:50 am
Bowmaking is made of countless combination of woods, design, lengths and strengths, beacuse that I like it so much!  :D
This weekend I hope to finish at least one elm warbow, this bl bow was warm-up for making that warbow.
Title: Re: Black locust pyramidal 62# 30"
Post by: Marc St Louis on January 11, 2012, 11:06:02 am
Very nice bow.  You tillered that one out very well
Title: Re: Black locust pyramidal 62# 30"
Post by: druid on January 11, 2012, 12:55:30 pm
Thank you very much Marc... I was in temptation to heat treat in some reflex, following your advices, but finally I quit- probably (highly) reflexed bow wouldn't be good decision for untrained archer.
Title: Re: Black locust pyramidal 62# 30"
Post by: footfootfoot on January 11, 2012, 05:20:57 pm
Wow, a beautiful bow, it looks completely deadly.