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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: mikekeswick on January 15, 2012, 05:47:37 am

Title: Osage holmguaard takedown
Post by: mikekeswick on January 15, 2012, 05:47:37 am
This is an osage holmguaard-ish takedown i've just finished. The billets were really thin ringed with a not too great ratio of early/late wood so I wasn't expecting too much from them but it has kept an inch of reflex and shoots really nicely. 57lbs @ 27 and it's 65 inch ntn. I'll be chronographing it later today.
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Title: Re: Osage holmguaard takedown
Post by: uwe on January 15, 2012, 08:04:51 am
Thats a quite good work. Do you have a picture of the limbs from behind or front?
Regards Uwe
Title: Re: Osage holmguaard takedown
Post by: full quiver on January 15, 2012, 09:55:33 am
Looks good!!!
Title: Re: Osage holmguaard takedown
Post by: gstoneberg on January 15, 2012, 10:05:07 am
Beautiful bow MIke!

George
Title: Re: Osage holmguaard takedown
Post by: Dazv on January 15, 2012, 10:14:43 am
now that is a great looking bow
Title: Re: Osage holmguaard takedown
Post by: MWirwicki on January 15, 2012, 10:52:30 am
Very nice, Mike!  Ya don't see a lot of take downs.  Great tiller too!
Title: Re: Osage holmguaard takedown
Post by: PeteC on January 15, 2012, 11:51:33 am
That's a beauty Mike.I would also really like to see the transition area of the limbs,front and back.Great job. God Bless
Title: Re: Osage holmguaard takedown
Post by: TurtleCreek on January 15, 2012, 03:23:25 pm
Beautiful bow!!!!
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Post by: dragonman on January 15, 2012, 04:54:20 pm
very nice too, i like your work
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Post by: johnston on January 15, 2012, 11:56:29 pm
Really well done Mike.

Lane
Title: Re: Osage holmguaard takedown
Post by: HickoryBill on January 15, 2012, 11:59:42 pm
Great looking bow. I'll bet it's fast with those skinny tips.Were those store bought take down sleeves? just curious...
Title: Re: Osage holmguaard takedown
Post by: Ryan_Gill_HuntPrimitive on January 16, 2012, 12:02:52 am
looks purty good. Never been partial to takedown selfbows, but you pulled it off. looks really nice.  tiller is classic- Ryan
Title: Re: Osage holmguaard takedown
Post by: bryan irwin on January 16, 2012, 12:03:45 am
sweet bow tiller looks great.
Title: Re: Osage holmguaard takedown
Post by: kentowl on January 16, 2012, 12:52:51 pm
Very pretty, Mike.
I'm also interested in the front/back profile. Your tiller looks like the outer limbs are relatively stiff with most of the bend occurring mid- and inner-limb, like a mollegabet. But the side profile doesn't appear to show a deeper outer limb like the mollie.

I'm just starting to tiller an ash-backed sycamore mollegabet, and interested to see how much of the outer-limb thickness I can remove without losing the stiffness. You seem to have accomplished that with no extra outer limb thickness, with narrow tips too - Nice work!
Title: Re: Osage holmguaard takedown
Post by: coaster500 on January 16, 2012, 01:21:01 pm
Excellent looking bow!!

Those tips are great!!!  I really like the look of your bow!!!
Title: Re: Osage holmguaard takedown
Post by: BakhSA on January 17, 2012, 02:20:53 am
Beautiful bow, Mike! Great job.
Bakh
Title: Re: Osage holmguaard takedown
Post by: mikekeswick on January 17, 2012, 04:49:41 am
Thanks for all the kind commentguys.
I bought the sleeves from flybow shop, they are the small size. To be honest I don't really like the size of them, a little 'chunky' for me. They are about the size I used to make my handles but recently i've been going narrower,especially at the arrow pass. I tend to go with widest and highest in the very middle to narrow and thinner at the necks then back wider at the fades. I wish I could find somebody who made actual small ones...
I'll try and get a picture of the width taper today to show you, it's sort of shallow pyramid taper then steps in to the narrower tips, eiffel tower style. People often (i used to as well) add way too much thickness at the tips on this style of bow. If you think that the limb is tapering anyway then you don't need much at all extra thickness to make them stiff.
Still haven't chronoed it yet...
Title: Re: Osage holmguaard takedown
Post by: Keenan on January 17, 2012, 04:55:46 am
Wow Mike, That is a very impressive bow. The tiller is spot on perfect. great looking detail work and love the coloring of that wood. Congratulations on another very nice bow.
Title: Re: Osage holmguaard takedown
Post by: Pappy on January 17, 2012, 08:08:34 am
Beautiful bow,got to love that,everything about it. :) :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: Osage holmguaard takedown
Post by: Gaur on January 17, 2012, 10:06:41 am
Nice bow Mike.  Let me know what size take down sleeves and I'll have a few made up for you here in Thailand.  I use thin walled stainless piping 2 mm and have a local machine shop spin some brass inserts 2mm thickness.  Then I squeeze them in a big vice a bit to give it the oval shape I like.  I'll throw a couple to try out with the next batch of horns  ;)
Title: Re: Osage holmguaard takedown
Post by: okie64 on January 17, 2012, 10:13:31 am
Great lookin bow Mike! What color of stain did you use to get that darker color in the earlywood rings? Ive never thought of staining osage but I love the way that turned out.
Title: Re: Osage holmguaard takedown
Post by: swamp yeti on January 17, 2012, 10:20:50 am
Awsome bow Mike,good job.
Title: Re: Osage holmguaard takedown
Post by: mikekeswick on January 17, 2012, 12:59:02 pm
Nice bow Mike.  Let me know what size take down sleeves and I'll have a few made up for you here in Thailand.  I use thin walled stainless piping 2 mm and have a local machine shop spin some brass inserts 2mm thickness.  Then I squeeze them in a big vice a bit to give it the oval shape I like.  I'll throw a couple to try out with the next batch of horns  ;)
That would be excellent! I really like the idea of takedowns but the size of even the small ones left a bit to be desired. I'll measure these and get back to you with the sizes. If the price works out ok I may well have more orders for you. I could do with a couple more horns because I want to make more hornbows, got three drying now from the horns I got off you...patience isn't my strong point... ;D
The stain is just a 'light pine', I tested it on an offcut and liked the way it looked. It only seemed to make a difference to the earlywood like you say.
Title: Re: Osage holmguaard takedown
Post by: davkt on January 17, 2012, 04:25:33 pm
Sweet!
Title: Re: Osage holmguaard takedown
Post by: Gaur on January 17, 2012, 09:28:55 pm
Mike,  I've been using 1 1/2" stainless pipe but I was thinking of trying 1 1/4" to give a smaller handle.  The 1 1/2" fits my hand nice but then you need a thin leather or other type material over it to keep it from getting too bulky.  The more you squeeze it in the vice then the narrower your handle can be but there seems to be a limit i can squeeze it before it looses its oval shape.  They cost me about $17 to do a set.  Brass is spendy here but the labor it cheap.
Title: Re: Osage holmguaard takedown
Post by: druid on January 18, 2012, 02:52:44 am
Very good bow my friend! Very important thing: ends of you limbs are not too thick, just as the have to be! Usually people left them too thick and lost all the benefits of this great design. This is right design!!!  ;) Is it heat treated?
Title: Re: Osage holmguaard takedown
Post by: medicinewheel on January 18, 2012, 05:21:15 am
Very nice!