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Title: American Yew 130lb at 32"
Post by: Ian. on January 16, 2012, 11:03:41 am
Hi everyone

Very similar stave to what Noel has got, I got this one a few weeks after he got his.

The bow is 73" 110lb at 28" taken to 30 inch, i'll shoot it to 32" for distance but i'm not going to take it to 32" on the tiller.

As you can see the stave has character, splits along the belly, plenty of knots but no sign of compression fractures. 

Ian

(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj93/iansturges/130lbAmericanYew28.jpg)

(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj93/iansturges/130lbAmericanYew30.jpg)

(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj93/iansturges/130lbAmericanYew.jpg)
Title: Re: American Yew 130lb at 32"
Post by: Peter-t123 on January 16, 2012, 12:11:11 pm
very nice ian, and looking at the first picture it looks like you got the circular tiller absolutely bang on... the length sounds fairly short (although i may be wrong, what was the length of the smaller bows on the mr...?), did you choose to make it that length or was that just the most you could get out of the stave? Peter
Title: Re: American Yew 130lb at 32"
Post by: Del the cat on January 16, 2012, 12:36:12 pm
Looks realy good, I like to see a bit of character.
Just wish I was 30 years younger, I'm just about getting my latest 90# :-[ back to full draw, give it another week.
Del
Title: Re: American Yew 130lb at 32"
Post by: Agincourtwarb0w on January 16, 2012, 02:41:05 pm
Beauty of a bow you've created there mate! Looks like you've done an awesome job of bringin'er to life!
-Jake
Title: Re: American Yew 130lb at 32"
Post by: fishfinder401 on January 16, 2012, 03:26:00 pm
i hope mine comes out half as nice as that, and your right i looks very similar almost like they are twins, hopefully someday these twins will meet ;)
great job
noel
Title: Re: American Yew 130lb at 32"
Post by: Dag on January 16, 2012, 04:59:54 pm
Fantastic job Ian! Looks perfectly tillered ready to fling arrows great distances. Nice!
Title: Re: American Yew 130lb at 32"
Post by: Ian. on January 16, 2012, 06:24:28 pm
Thanks everyone.


Noel - don't hesitate to ask for dimensions or tillering advice, keep us updated.
Title: Re: American Yew 130lb at 32"
Post by: deerhunter97370 on January 16, 2012, 07:40:33 pm
Ian what is the dimensions on your bow, and is a straight taper or does it go even to mid limb and then taper off?
Title: Re: American Yew 130lb at 32"
Post by: fishfinder401 on January 16, 2012, 07:48:28 pm
Ian what is the dimensions on your bow, and is a straight taper or does it go even to mid limb and then taper off?

i was just going to ask that ;D
Title: Re: American Yew 130lb at 32"
Post by: Ian. on January 16, 2012, 07:54:38 pm
The centre dimension is 38/30mm or (1.5inch/1.2inch) it stays very close to this for the middle 24" then tapers off fairly evenly to the tips, the tips are both 1/2". The bottom limb had a natural kink that I needed to be careful with so although the limbs are fairly even, the bottom limb is dimensionally smaller. The best/cleanest wood on the bow was in the middle so I tried to let that take the weight and not let the tips become over stressed.
Title: Re: American Yew 130lb at 32"
Post by: deerhunter97370 on January 16, 2012, 07:59:41 pm
Thanks for the info. Awesome bow. I hope mine turns out half as good.
Title: Re: American Yew 130lb at 32"
Post by: Elktracker on January 16, 2012, 08:42:42 pm
Great work the tiller looks spot on to me, I really like the character too! Great job all the way around!

Josh
Title: Re: American Yew 130lb at 32"
Post by: Ifrit617 on January 17, 2012, 10:07:43 pm
Awesome bow! talk about a wrist thick armor piercer.... Nice job.

Jon
Title: Re: American Yew 130lb at 32"
Post by: mikekeswick on January 18, 2012, 04:14:45 pm
Lovely bow.  :)
Title: Re: American Yew 130lb at 32"
Post by: david w. on January 19, 2012, 01:10:00 am
Awesome bow.  Love warbows
Title: Re: American Yew 130lb at 32"
Post by: adb on January 19, 2012, 01:53:12 am
Nice job, Ian. It takes skill to tiller out a character yew stave to those end results. Well done. How long did it take you to tiller?
Title: Re: American Yew 130lb at 32"
Post by: Ian. on January 19, 2012, 06:56:01 am
Thanks everyone,

From having a rough braced stave to where you see it now I managed it in a little over an hour. The bow its self hasn't taken any set but he stave had some de-flex to being with. The goal for this one is distance hence the faster tillering.
Title: Re: American Yew 130lb at 32"
Post by: nidrinr on January 20, 2012, 10:29:45 pm
Too long since I've made a yew bow now.. Got to start one soon now after seeing yours :)

-Really nice bow you made here!
Title: Re: American Yew 130lb at 32"
Post by: CraigMBeckett on January 22, 2012, 03:54:38 am
Thanks for the info. Awesome bow. I hope mine turns out half as good.

Hi Ian,

Great looking bow, any chance of more detailed info on the dimensions etc same as given by MR trust for their bows? Did you model it on one of the MR bows or try for the best you could get from the stave?

Craig.
Title: Re: American Yew 130lb at 32"
Post by: Ian. on January 22, 2012, 04:44:32 pm
Thanks Craig

This bow was a punt really. Its not modelled on any MR bow I know of, the stave was very uneven so trying to follow any given set of dimensions would have been futile. The section is close to a typical MR bow. I do want to make another Yew bow but a clean on this time. When I start that one I will keep a step by step of it and I will follow as close as I can an MR bow.

Ian
Title: Re: American Yew 130lb at 32"
Post by: druid on February 20, 2012, 05:09:28 pm
Great bow Ian. For my taste it works in the middle litltle bit more than I like. It is lovely yew...
Title: Re: American Yew 130lb at 32"
Post by: Ian. on February 20, 2012, 05:26:28 pm
You and me both, but knots and the natural shape of the stave meant that I needed to tiller it that way.
Title: Re: American Yew 130lb at 32"
Post by: PAHunter on February 20, 2012, 06:35:37 pm
"Cry havoc! and let slip the dogs of war!"   >:D  Very cool looking bow and tiller looks great!! 
Title: Re: American Yew 130lb at 32"
Post by: Ian. on March 16, 2012, 11:35:06 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzQBogfSeSg

Here it is at an EWBS event in Derbyshire. I shot 230yds with a Standard arrow, which is pretty disappointing but the stave really wasn't suitable for a heavy bow, so I did what I could.
Title: Re: American Yew 130lb at 32"
Post by: adb on March 16, 2012, 09:31:11 pm
230 yards with a standard arrow is not bad, but I do agree... at 130#, it should do better. I regularily get 200+ yards with a livery weight arrow from my 100# tri-lam.
Title: Re: American Yew 130lb at 32"
Post by: Ian. on March 16, 2012, 09:42:55 pm
My other bow that is also 130lb shot 268yds with a standard on the same day, so its not the weather or me. Glennan who is 6'3" drew the bow to 33" and really gave it all he could and only managed 214 with a Livery. I don't know what is wrong with the bow, whether its still too moist or maybe the deflex robbed it of distance I just don't know.
Title: Re: American Yew 130lb at 32"
Post by: adb on March 17, 2012, 12:52:00 am
How much set did it take, and what is the initial draw weight like?
Title: Re: American Yew 130lb at 32"
Post by: }|{opukc on March 17, 2012, 04:32:40 am
Solid limbs makes it a little slower maybe.
Title: Re: American Yew 130lb at 32"
Post by: Ian. on March 17, 2012, 11:55:35 am
When I bought the stave it had almost 2" of natural deflex, which didn't increase with tillering. The draw weight is very smooth, no early draw weight but it doesn't stack either. The piece of wood is very heavy in the hand, far heavier than other bows of the same wood, If there hadn't been the amount of knots I would have liked to get the tips bending more.
Title: Re: American Yew 130lb at 32"
Post by: Del the cat on March 17, 2012, 08:32:58 pm
Yeah, not every bow can be your fastest.
Knots add character, but they will always take a bit away from the performance.
It's always a teaser with knots trying to take off as much wood as you dare, a trade off between safety and performance.
I think its a damn fine bow from a marginal stave at that weight so don't beat yourself up over a few yards...
Those French knights will soon get close enough ;)
Del