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Title: Check out this borer
Post by: osage outlaw on January 26, 2012, 09:22:05 pm
I found this nasty thing in one of my osage staves I was pealing today.  I have never seen one like this before.  It is a lot bigger than the other ones I have found and it is flattened out on the head end.  This stupid thing went straight down into the middle of the stave.  He died a slow and painful death because of that  >:D  Has anyone else found these?

(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r55/clintanders/SDC14461.jpg)

(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r55/clintanders/SDC14460.jpg)

(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r55/clintanders/SDC14459.jpg)
Title: Re: Check out this borer
Post by: seabass on January 26, 2012, 09:28:09 pm
that sucks.i saw one in stim wilcoxes book.nasty bugger there.
Title: Re: Check out this borer
Post by: Stiks-N-Strings on January 26, 2012, 10:45:03 pm
Never seen one like that, That is one creepy looking little bugger
Title: Re: Check out this borer
Post by: Lee Slikkers on January 26, 2012, 11:27:30 pm
Never seen one like that, That is one creepy looking little bugger

Really creepy when you see the pic of it and read his tag line at the same time.... :o >:D
Title: Re: Check out this borer
Post by: dmikeyj on January 26, 2012, 11:32:33 pm
Really creepy when you see the pic of it and read his tag line at the same time.... :o >:D

No doubt.   ;D
Title: Re: Check out this borer
Post by: rkeltner on January 27, 2012, 12:02:31 am
i've seen them in my osage and mulberry. i think that's the woodboring wasp larva.
Title: Re: Check out this borer
Post by: Bill Skinner on January 27, 2012, 12:06:10 am
We call those flat heads and we break up rotting logs to find them, they get twice that size.  Catfish love them.  They are great trot line bait.  First time I have seen one in osage, though.
Title: Re: Check out this borer
Post by: rossfactor on January 27, 2012, 12:08:03 am
Thats a Buprestidae, flat head borer.  A nout 150 species.  Its a beetle larvae.
Title: Re: Check out this borer
Post by: rossfactor on January 27, 2012, 12:08:34 am
Beat me to it Bill  ;D
Title: Re: Check out this borer
Post by: neuse on January 27, 2012, 12:17:03 am
Yes I killed a couple of those today in an osage stick I had in the garage.
I knew they were there because I could here them clicking as they were eating.
Title: Re: Check out this borer
Post by: Carson (CMB) on January 27, 2012, 12:18:00 am
I have actually heard old mesquite logs crawling with those borer larvae.  I remember hearing the faint sound coming from a downed mesquite tree as I walked up to it, then noticed fine sawdust falling to ground from the log.  Pretty voracious little buggers. The sound was loud once you were next to the tree. Sucks to find it in yer osage.
Title: Re: Check out this borer
Post by: Slackbunny on January 27, 2012, 12:28:07 am
That's one nice thing about where I live. It gets darn cold, and their isn't any osage, but there also isn't much borers and the like. They're around, but not in abundance, storing staves outside wouldn't be a death sentence for them around here.
Title: Re: Check out this borer
Post by: Pat B on January 27, 2012, 01:05:58 am
Thats what I've always seen in osage...and they do go straight down through the heartwood.  >:(
Title: Re: Check out this borer
Post by: Pappy on January 27, 2012, 06:52:37 am
I hate them things. >:( >:(
   Pappy
Title: Re: Check out this borer
Post by: Matt S. on January 27, 2012, 11:18:01 am
"Kill it with fire!"

Ugly little bugger.
Title: Re: Check out this borer
Post by: coaster500 on January 27, 2012, 12:03:59 pm
Send that sucker to the Taxidermist and call Pope and Young...  whoa NASTY!!
Title: Re: Check out this borer
Post by: JackCrafty on January 27, 2012, 01:39:06 pm
I've seen a smaller version in the sapwood of ashe juniper.  The beetle is quite striking.  Haven't seen one in osage. The ones I've seen in mesquite were fat buggers and didn't have the flat heads.

Some of the boring beetles around here look like this:
Title: Re: Check out this borer
Post by: Sidewinder on January 27, 2012, 02:37:27 pm
Yeah I've seen them too. Not in my bow wood because I debark after I harvest, but I have seen them in my fire wood. I found one about a month ago I should have taken a picture of, it was really big and fat, I would say easily it was 3/8" in diameter and was 3" long. He had obviuosly been feasting for a while. I don't recall it being a flathead though. It was a borer of some type and needless to say he cut a large swath in that osage log.   Danny
Title: Re: Check out this borer
Post by: osage outlaw on January 27, 2012, 03:45:23 pm
He had to have been in the tree before I cut it.  I was ripping the bark and sapwood off to store it when I found it.  I have only found a few borers and most were small, less than an inch long, and they stayed in the first ring or two.  This thing ate a hole about 1/4" wide and several inches deep.  I hope that is the last one I find.
Title: Re: Check out this borer
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 27, 2012, 05:26:13 pm
You better hope you didnt send me any of those nasty buggers Clint! If my stash gets exploited Im driving down to Rising Sun and replenishing my stock buddy.
Title: Re: Check out this borer
Post by: osage outlaw on January 27, 2012, 06:39:37 pm
Yours should be good.  I found that bugger on a piece that I just brought inside.  Peal and seal it and let me know just to be sure  ;)

Ain't it too cold up there for these critters?

Title: Re: Check out this borer
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 27, 2012, 06:48:53 pm
I thought maybe they would freeze out, but I was told otherwise. I have found a few tunnels in some staves, but no bugs dead or alive anywhere around. I talked with Matt W and he has had staves stored up here for 25 years in his barn with zero bugs? Im not chanceing it, so Im spraying them down once a month all summer long.
Title: Re: Check out this borer
Post by: Blacktail on January 27, 2012, 07:06:12 pm
i call them things osage leach...that thing is big...you should get it mounted..LOL...john
Title: Re: Check out this borer
Post by: JW_Halverson on January 27, 2012, 07:57:32 pm
Good Lord!  That wasn't in your stash from the Monster Tree was it?!?!?!
Title: Re: Check out this borer
Post by: osage outlaw on January 27, 2012, 08:09:49 pm
Yes it was!  But one out of ???? isn't too bad.  It was in the last handful of staves.  If everything goes smooth tomorrow, I should finish up and I'll post an update with the final count and the winner of the contest.
Title: Re: Check out this borer
Post by: JW_Halverson on January 27, 2012, 08:11:48 pm
Yes it was!  But one out of ???? isn't too bad.  It was in the last handful of staves.  If everything goes smooth tomorrow, I should finish up and I'll post an update with the final count and the winner of the contest.

I'm very happy to hear that it was one of the last.  I'd be heartbroken to think that you'd lose a bunch of those staves after working so bloody hard with your buddies to harvest it.  That'd be a shame.
Title: Re: Check out this borer
Post by: osage outlaw on January 27, 2012, 08:22:21 pm
I'd be heartbroken too.  I really lucked out.  I think I was somewhere in the 80 count range when I started to find a few small borers.  This is the only big one and the only one that went deep enough to cause damage.  That thing really creeped me out when I pulled him from the hole.   
Title: Re: Check out this borer
Post by: EricWard on January 27, 2012, 10:23:00 pm
  Man that looks like a cobra worm.
Title: Re: Check out this borer
Post by: gstoneberg on January 27, 2012, 10:48:22 pm
I'm very happy to hear that it was one of the last.  I'd be heartbroken to think that you'd lose a bunch of those staves after working so bloody hard with your buddies to harvest it.  That'd be a shame.

That's silly. The stave would still be fine trading fodder for South Dakota bowyers.   >:D

George
Title: Re: Check out this borer
Post by: JW_Halverson on January 28, 2012, 10:17:52 pm
I'm very happy to hear that it was one of the last.  I'd be heartbroken to think that you'd lose a bunch of those staves after working so bloody hard with your buddies to harvest it.  That'd be a shame.

That's silly. The stave would still be fine trading fodder for South Dakota bowyers.   >:D

George

I'd rather take one of his worst Swiss-cheesed borer hotels than one of your devil's corkscrews!   >:D >:D
Title: Re: Check out this borer
Post by: gstoneberg on January 28, 2012, 10:48:22 pm
Ah, I feel better having read that. I was worried you'd taken sick or something.

George
Title: Re: Check out this borer
Post by: bolsjedyr on January 29, 2012, 04:30:31 pm
Yes - it's a pain to find these in your wood (could get even worse if you don't find them) - Just try to remember that they are a part of the great circulation of organic material in nature  ;)
Without this sort of creatures, breaking down the fallen trees into fertilizer, we'd be in trouble  :laugh: