Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: Parnell on January 30, 2012, 01:08:37 pm
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Anybody catch 60 Minutes last night and the segment on the state of hunting exotics in Texas? I thought it was very interesting.
Here is a link: http: http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/60minutes/main3415.shtml
I didn't realize just how much was involved in the situation. Can't say I like the idea of canned hunts, but after watching, I understand the value. Of course there is an animal rights group that has been looking to shut it down for sometime and an upcoming supreme court decision will make the hunters of endangered exotics from other contries need a federal license for the hunt, which will in turn lower the demand for the hunt and then the fees, and then the animals.
Hmmm.
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I saw it and also found it interesting,the lady[well I guess you could call her that] was really dumb about the whole thing and I just can't figure how she could win the law suite with that attitude and complant about about the issue. :) Sounding to me like she had no case at all and the ranchers had a very good one,guess that's why I ant a judge. ;) :) :)
Pappy
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One other thing I noticed and caught me totally off guard was the way 60 minutes covered it, I saw the pre view and watched expecting 60 minutes to ream the ranchers and hunters really bad,but they covered it very even I thought, big suprise. :)
Pappy
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I saw it, and the lady seemed to be dead set on not hunting the exotics period! Didn't matter to her it seems that the population for some of the exotics that were endangered oversea's were thriving and the herd growing in Texas.
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Watched it.
The Friends of Animals(FOM) female is your typical "No Hunting at Any Cost" idiot.
There is no arguing with them.
The Interviewer I feel was not far behind the FOM person in her belief system, if you're a hunter, you're a killer.
I get the vibe that the Interviewer was South African. I'd think she would know more about the loss of biomass on the African continent.
As far as Federal Licensing goes.
It will be the Death Knell of many Exotic Endangered Species.
Good Grief, you can't send the Animals back to Africa unless you are willing to PAY to have the sites prepared to receive them
And you have to PAY to feed them. And PAY to ship them.
And once they get there they get POACHED!
You Just Can't Fix Stupid.
-gus
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There is no arguing with them.
don't worry, we have other ways to deal with them >:D
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Interesting to read opinions. Yup, what a waste, especially when there are obviously passionate people pursuing the management of the game using proper biological science and enforcing good hunting ethics. It is difficult to understand why people wouldn't get this when given the "bigger picture".
The only real logical argument I can see against it is that it is introducing alien species into the ecosystem. But even at that...I dunno. I guess, who are we to choose what should be and shouldn't be rooted out as "alien" and do private ranches have a right to breed these species. I mean, it's one thing if it's an antelope, it'd be another if it were bengal tigers. I'm just thinking out loud here, don't mind me.
I'd like to know what the rationale is behind the court's decision on siding for these federal licenses. I'm sure there is a trip to the moon and back of red tape and precedents that have been sorted through for this decision to be made.
Gus - "You just can't fix stupid", yessir, I'm only 36 but each year that goes by the more I say, how true...how true.
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Well I imagine if releasing Exotics into the Eco system is the problem then I think it might become a realty if the courts shut down the hunts. It's easier to let them go then to dispose of them.
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ill help release them in RI, ill even help keep down their population >:D
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Gus is right, this is virtually a religion for the animal rights folks. They would rather the animals die than humans should kill some and the population improve or become healthy. I argued with them in Chicago in the 80s over deer overpopulation in a forest preserve. In the face of overwhelming neighbor sentiment, traffic accident stats, scientific evidence and even some other animal friendly organizations like the Audobon Society who stood up to say that the deer had destroyed the habitat for the birds and something needed to be done; they kept screaming that no deer should die. When the decision went against them they sat in the parking lot and cried. They really believe what they say even though it makes no sense and there is no evidence to support their position. The saddest thing is that in nearly every case these organizatoins spend the vast majority of their money trying to stop hunting instead of working to really help the animals which, just like in this case, eventually hurts the animals. Very sad.
Be interesting to see how this plays out. Texans have traditionally not responded well to being ordered to do anything by the government. I suspect there's gonna be more to this story.
George
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The far extremist animal rights people envision a future where even predators don't kill.
Hubris ( /ˈhjuːbrɪs/), also hybris, means extreme haughtiness, pride or arrogance. Hubris often indicates a loss of contact with reality and an overestimation of one's own competence or capabilities, especially when the person exhibiting it is in a position of power.
Loss of contact with reality, REALLY? Chose one from column A or column B:
A.) You are smarter than 3.7 billion years of evolution. B.) You are smarter than God.
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Yessir, JW.
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Yes Sir... I like it JW!
Remember The Alamo!
-gus
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Commercial value is what keeps many animal populations alive and growing. I'm not too worried about the stupid people. I'm worried about the smart people. I hope the smart ones don't let the bullies steal their lunch money.
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Year 2020 all horses must be removed from north America now. It stands to reason. Nuts
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There is a Federally recognized IRS approved genuine 501(c)3 non-profit organization that has the stated purpose of having the government start removing raptors so that songbirds can migrate without fear of getting eaten. *sigh*
Once upon a time his tribe woulda just let him get et by a lion and got it over with. I am no longer so sure "civilization" was such a great leap forward.
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Reminds me of the guy that lived with bears, video taped bears, was all about protecting them and then was eaten by them.
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Also reminds me of the guy that was killed by the killer whale. I guess no one saw that coming. You know a killer whale killing.
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Reminds me of the guy that lived with bears, video taped bears, was all about protecting them and then was eaten by them.
Didn't this guy also go on record claiming he'd give his life for these bears? In his bucket list at the very end, ya think he added "owning something from Smith and Wesson"?
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Stipid is as Stipid does Mrs Gump...
:)
-gus
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Here is my contribution...
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Reminds me of the guy that lived with bears, video taped bears, was all about protecting them and then was eaten by them.
Wasn't it the Bear Guy's new girlfriend that got 'em killed?
Something about the Bear not liking her perfume, Or some such?
-gus
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No, it wasn't his girlfriend or her perfume.
It was his arrogant stupidity. 8)
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He was told to leave. He got two bears killed when the bodies were recovered and he was was the first fatality from a bear attack in the area because of his actions. This was a tragic situation and we all should feel sad for the bears. Why did the animal rights people not protest his actions.
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Commercial value is what keeps many animal populations alive and growing. I'm not too worried about the stupid people. I'm worried about the smart people. I hope the smart ones don't let the bullies steal their lunch money.
Yup Patrick. It's one thing to fear bad men but what's more frightful is the apathy of good men. I'd hope the ranchers are looking into the appeal process possibilities if things don't go their way. I'd imagine so. Let's hope our justices are capable of handing it out using the best logic. ::)
If anyone sees any news on this in the weeks to come, please feel free to re-up the post.
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It's funny how the animal rights lady wants to ship the animals back to their native countries. I guess she prefers poachers killing the animals instead of hunters. Either way, if they have economic value, they will be harvested. The difference is that poachers do not care about managing a sustainable herd.
She should change her focus.