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Title: sassafras tree help?
Post by: mcginnis6010 on February 29, 2012, 08:42:58 pm
Does anyone know how to identify sassafras trees in the winter? I really wanna make some sassafras tea like my grandfather used to but I have no idea how to identify in the winter.
Title: Re: sassafras tree help?
Post by: bowtarist on February 29, 2012, 10:28:25 pm
If yuo flake the top layer of bark off, it will be red underneath.  The smaller limbs are smooth and fresh limbs are green.  I'll try to get back to you tomorrow when I look @ ouur in the daylight.  dpgratz
Title: Re: sassafras tree help?
Post by: mcginnis6010 on February 29, 2012, 10:40:58 pm
Sounds good thanks for the info
Title: Re: sassafras tree help?
Post by: nclonghunter on February 29, 2012, 11:10:30 pm
Saplins that are an inch or so thick will have a grayish bark bottom and the upper parts about 1/2 way up  will start having a redish brown look. Shouldn't be head high maybe. Usually find several in a small area together.  Pull one of the smaller ones and smell the root. It is a great smell...Good Luck
Title: Re: sassafras tree help?
Post by: bowtarist on March 04, 2012, 12:33:00 pm
This is the best I can do for now.  The small trees three to five feet tall are still mostly green barked. Smooth.  When I scratched the bark w/ my thumb nail it smelled like sassverass.  I'm pretty sure you use the bark of the root for the tea.  I would look for these smaller ones since getting to the root might be a little easier than a full grown tree.  The big old/dead sassafras often have woodpecker holes in them.  I hope tis helps a little and good luck to you, dpgratz
Title: Re: sassafras tree help?
Post by: Lee Slikkers on March 04, 2012, 12:47:03 pm
I just harvested a small bucket of Sass root for Tea 2 days ago.  (Had one awesome pot of the stuff too...yum!!!)  Are you looking for pics of immature & mature trees?  No leaves on em here in MI yet but I think some of the very small stuff I pulled for root had buds starting on them.  I can snap some pics of the various aged trees here on my property if that would help ya out?  Let me know~
Title: Re: sassafras tree help?
Post by: Lee Slikkers on March 04, 2012, 02:09:48 pm
OK, figured I'd pop outside and snap a few pics for you...here are a bunch and you can see I chose Sass trees of gradually increasing size/age so you can see how the bark changes as they grow.  I hope it helps some...cheers~

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Title: Re: sassafras tree help?
Post by: mcginnis6010 on March 04, 2012, 02:22:34 pm
Thanks Lee those pics do help. I appreciate it can't wait to boil up some tea! :) oh BTW can you use the rest of the tree for anything else?
Title: Re: sassafras tree help?
Post by: Bevan R. on March 04, 2012, 02:34:06 pm
I made my father a 40# bow from a sassafras board. Loved to work the stuff. I could sand on that all day.
Title: Re: sassafras tree help?
Post by: Lee Slikkers on March 04, 2012, 02:47:57 pm
It can be used as bow wood, wood for bowls, spoons, feather sticks, NA flutes, suppose a bunch of different uses.  I know the crushed up leaves can be used in soups/stews as a thickening agent too.
Title: Re: sassafras tree help?
Post by: mcginnis6010 on March 04, 2012, 03:53:31 pm
Sounds like sassafras is a tree with 101 uses LOL.
Title: Re: sassafras tree help?
Post by: Sparrow on March 05, 2012, 12:31:14 am
Dry the young leaves and then grind them to a powder,you have file (Fee Lay) for the gumbo !  '  Frank
Title: Re: sassafras tree help?
Post by: Lone500 on March 05, 2012, 06:26:20 pm
from my experience its just hard to find a good strait grained peice of sassafras. and what ive played with was pretty brittle too.
Title: Re: sassafras tree help?
Post by: Lee Slikkers on March 05, 2012, 06:56:58 pm
from my experience its just hard to find a good strait grained peice of sassafras. and what ive played with was pretty brittle too.

When I first found PA I thought any wood could make a bow (and I suppose it could but...) and I cut, dried and tried a few staves of Sass, brittle, ring porous and not hardly worth the effort imho, some folk's mileage may vary.
Title: Re: sassafras tree help?
Post by: Pat B on March 05, 2012, 07:16:12 pm

Sassafras was one of Mourice Thompson's(of The Wichery of Archery) favorite bowwoods.  I made a few way back when(I didn't know anything about building wood bows).  I also cut a 12" sas tree that was stovepipe straight and got three 7' logs out of it. When I split it my bow staves turned into twisted fence rails. Made a pretty fence!
Title: Re: sassafras tree help?
Post by: Lee Slikkers on March 05, 2012, 07:20:04 pm
Yup!!  That's the stuff Pat!  Smells good though...makes a much better cup of Tea to enjoy while reading that Archery Classic  ;)
Title: Re: sassafras tree help?
Post by: mcginnis6010 on March 05, 2012, 08:29:28 pm
I don't know why but the sassafras is really starting to become an obsession trying to find some and see what all I can do with it. The wife even says I'm becoming obsessed about it LOL.
Title: Re: sassafras tree help?
Post by: bowtarist on March 06, 2012, 01:03:25 pm
Back in the old days when everyone cooked on wood fired stoves they would use Sass in the warmer weather because it doesn't leave any coals.  Cook breakfast and the kitchen had time to cool down between meals rather than having a bunch of hot @$$ coals in there all day.  Just another tidbit about Sass.  Also, if you can find them all hollowed out w/ woodpecker holes in them you can cut sections and board the top and bottom and make nesting boxes for woodpeckers, owl and ducks out of them.  Also...Sass is one of the woods that those guys who make the wood spirit face carvings use to carve into.  There's a couple more tidbits for ya.  ;D

have a gooder, dpgratz