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Main Discussion Area => Primitive Skills => Topic started by: jamie on August 15, 2007, 08:14:43 pm

Title: glass/porcelain?
Post by: jamie on August 15, 2007, 08:14:43 pm
dont know what this stuf is but i found a whole slew of it today. was takin a break at the hospital and decided to climb down a bank where i pitch whats left of the deer carcasses  to see what kind of bones i could salvage. found a lot . on my way up i found this stuff so i percussed 3 knives like this one. just need to preesure flake some areas to clean em up.peace

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/coyotebow/knapping/pic015.jpg)
Title: Re: glass/porcelain?
Post by: DanaM on August 15, 2007, 08:43:45 pm
Looks like a piece of old white glass like they used to make plated and such out of.. Have any pics before ya hit it with a rock?
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Post by: jamie on August 15, 2007, 08:47:18 pm
i'll get some tomorrow. one side had toothing marks for glueing. on a couple pieces there are lamination lines that create hinges.
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Post by: mullet on August 16, 2007, 07:43:59 pm
   Jamie,I have the same glass in dark purple,green and tan.I took some up to Pat's campout.It was used on buildings around the turn of the century I was told.They were stuck on the sides with a grout like 3' square tiles.It makes excellent points and very long blades.See the "lawnmower blade"in the pictures from Pat's.I'd love to find some in that white.
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Post by: Calendargirl on August 16, 2007, 08:28:25 pm
looks like milk glass
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Post by: jamie on August 16, 2007, 08:32:43 pm
ed i'll go look and see how much there is and stock up for ya. whats milk glass?
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Post by: Calendargirl on August 16, 2007, 08:38:36 pm
trying to get a picture of it but you can search milk glass or fenton milk glass.  It is a white depression era glass.  hobknob style and others.  It opaque and milky white.

here found this on wikipedia.org

Milk glass is a relatively recent name for opaque, milky white or colored glass, that is blown or pressed into a wide variety of shapes. Animal-shaped covered dishes are popular collectibles. First made in Venice in the 16th century, the white color is achieved through the addition of tin oxide. 19th-century glassmakers called milky white opaque glass "Opal". Other milk glass colors include blue, pink, yellow, brown, and black.

Made into decorative dinner-ware, lamps, vases, and costume jewelry, milk glass was highly popular during the fin de siecle. Pieces made for the wealthy of the Gilded Age are known for their delicacy and beauty in color and design, while Depression glass pieces of the 1930s and '40s are less so.

Milk glass has a considerable following of collectors, and many examples can be found on eBay. Some glass makers continue to produce it, including reproductions of popular collectible pieces and patterns.

Title: Re: glass/porcelain?
Post by: jamie on August 16, 2007, 08:52:07 pm
so if i find a nice collectable piece i can smash it and knap it. ;D
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Post by: Calendargirl on August 16, 2007, 08:53:22 pm
exactly!


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Post by: Hillbilly on August 16, 2007, 10:54:13 pm
Jamie, that looks like old vitrolite or carrera glass. Like Eddie said, he has a bunch of it, it has the grooves on one side. I made this point out of a piece that must have been exactly like yours, I found it in an old (hundred-year-old) dump site out in the woods. Knapped great, and the color is cool. Some of the sharpest stuff I've ever fooled with, I cut my finger to the bone on a flake from this point.

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Post by: Calendargirl on August 16, 2007, 11:00:25 pm
You are right Hillbilly it has more of an iridescence than milk glass.
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Post by: mullet on August 16, 2007, 11:59:08 pm
  Jamie,Marie is right about the milk glass.It was used on the buildings also.You could still come across some not long ago .Ponds Cold Cream bottles were a form of milk glass.And old Depression Era plates in dump sites had some.But the good stuff has an Opal look to it.I'll trade you some of mine for yours?
Title: Re: glass/porcelain?
Post by: Calendargirl on August 17, 2007, 12:02:33 am
AAAwww Eddie said I was right!  ;D He is a GOOD man isn't he!  ;)
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Post by: mullet on August 17, 2007, 12:06:52 am
  I figured somebody as pretty as you would always be right. ::)
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Post by: Calendargirl on August 17, 2007, 12:10:14 am
You are funny since you don't even know what I look like!  ;D  but i am almost always right!  ;D at least in my world.  ;)

I looked back at Jamie's and his does look more like milk glass than hillbilly's maybe jamie can take another picture with more light on it.  Hillbilly's looks more like and opaque version Lalique (spelling) any of you high falootin rednecks know what that is?
Title: Re: glass/porcelain?
Post by: mullet on August 17, 2007, 12:21:23 am
  I'm funny because I don't know what you look like? Well I guess you could be a dyed blond?Think back to all the pictures posted for the Tenn. Classic ::) But you can refer back to Bob's post about Southern Gentleman. ;)
Title: Re: glass/porcelain?
Post by: DanaM on August 17, 2007, 08:47:18 am
Hey I thing I was the first to say it looked like glass from an old plate, of course I'm sure
Marie is much prettier and nicer than me ;D At least I hope so.
Title: Re: glass/porcelain?
Post by: Calendargirl on August 17, 2007, 09:38:44 am
Yes Dana DID say glass from an old plate first  ::)  Did you research the milk glass, Jamie?
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Post by: DanaM on August 17, 2007, 10:44:00 am
Thank you for acknowledging my greatness Marie ;D Man I almost managed to keep a stright face while typing that.
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Post by: jamie on August 17, 2007, 11:45:46 am
why you did the homework for me? ;D
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Post by: Calendargirl on August 17, 2007, 11:46:59 am
Oh I see you were THAT kind of student!  :P
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Post by: jamie on August 17, 2007, 11:54:35 am
straight a's never studied, never tried, never cheated.3.8 in high school and what college i took before i realised i hated it. naturally brilliant ;D
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Post by: Coo-wah-chobee on August 17, 2007, 12:56:12 pm
straight a's never studied, never tried, never cheated.3.8 in high school and what college i took before i realised i hated it. naturally brilliant ;D
            Oh brother ! :P........bob
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Post by: Calendargirl on August 17, 2007, 01:25:23 pm
 ::)  ::)  ::)  ::)
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Post by: D. Tiller on August 17, 2007, 04:40:02 pm
Marie, I've seen the pictures of the you at the Tennesse Classic and going by that I would say Mullet is right. Your very pretty and smart too!  ;D

David T
Title: Re: glass/porcelain?
Post by: jamie on August 17, 2007, 06:00:04 pm
come on i just do the caveman stuff so people think im a big dumb ape ;D
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Post by: Coo-wah-chobee on August 17, 2007, 11:00:58 pm
                                Sure looked real ta me ! ;D.......bob