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Title: Sinew Backed Cedar......re-visited
Post by: Ryan_Gill_HuntPrimitive on March 12, 2012, 10:23:06 pm
OK he is my response to the latest ERC explosion. This time I used Primarily sapwood. even though the sapwood isn't nearly as pretty, it performs way better...just much tougher overall. and sinew backed it. Got the sinew really tight and straight.  The heartwood is at least present in the grip and a little bit of working limb.  Made for a real interesting looking bow.  Seems to me the point of ERC is  to make a really pretty bow, but unfortunately the pretty part is brittle. so this one is build on performance and boy was i surprised. This bow really slams an arrow. every bit as hard as Osage.  really fast bow!  its 66" long and 63# @ 26".   so this is my "performance" cedar bow and i will build another sinew back outa heartwood like my long one in BOM but next time a little shorter to accommodate my 25" draw.  That heart wood is gorgeous, but the sapwood is the "good" stuff   so Cedar is definitely a catch 22. has about 75 shots or so through it today. my arm is really tired now so it was time to quit and take pics. seems plenty stable. every shot, I get more confidence in it. Tiller is a little stiff in the fades but I was a lil gun shy after the last fade blow up..lol  thanks fer lookin at it- Ryan
Title: Re: Sinew Backed Cedar......re-visited
Post by: Ryan_Gill_HuntPrimitive on March 12, 2012, 10:23:51 pm
couple more pics
Title: Re: Sinew Backed Cedar......re-visited
Post by: Onebowonder on March 12, 2012, 10:29:54 pm
Oh my!!!  That is lovely.  I asspire to one day making something like that from one of my ERCs...
Title: Re: Sinew Backed Cedar......re-visited
Post by: osage outlaw on March 12, 2012, 10:33:05 pm
Are you kidding?  That thing looks awesome.  I love how the heartwood fades out from the grip.  That's a really nice bow. 
Title: Re: Sinew Backed Cedar......re-visited
Post by: Bevan R. on March 12, 2012, 10:37:31 pm
Great looking bow. What is the mass weight? just wondering
Title: Re: Sinew Backed Cedar......re-visited
Post by: vinemaplebows on March 12, 2012, 10:47:17 pm
very nice!
Title: Re: Sinew Backed Cedar......re-visited
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on March 12, 2012, 10:49:02 pm
Sure is pretty. Hope this one holds tight for you. That ERC stuff scares me!
Title: Re: Sinew Backed Cedar......re-visited
Post by: blackhawk on March 12, 2012, 10:54:56 pm
sweet..i love it  :)...hope this one lasts...its looking like it should from here...one course of sinew?
Title: Re: Sinew Backed Cedar......re-visited
Post by: Ryan_Gill_HuntPrimitive on March 12, 2012, 11:07:43 pm
thanks guys, yeah one heavy course. took 3 strips of back sinew to back it!
Title: Re: Sinew Backed Cedar......re-visited
Post by: Bryce H on March 12, 2012, 11:13:45 pm
Gorgeous, and that sinew backing looks incredible.
Title: Re: Sinew Backed Cedar......re-visited
Post by: Ryan_Gill_HuntPrimitive on March 12, 2012, 11:18:56 pm
BTW I never liked the look of sinew, so now that I have to use it on some I am really meticulous about it being perfect..lol  I will put more time into laying the sinew than building the entire bow
Title: Re: Sinew Backed Cedar......re-visited
Post by: loefflerchuck on March 12, 2012, 11:31:55 pm
Never seen a sinew job like that. looks like you put one thread down at a time. I agree. The sapwood is easier
Title: Re: Sinew Backed Cedar......re-visited
Post by: rossfactor on March 12, 2012, 11:38:32 pm
What a beautiful bow!  The heartwood looks like two flames moving out into the sapwood.  Great tiller as usual.  I dig it.

Gabe
Title: Re: Sinew Backed Cedar......re-visited
Post by: Dictionary on March 12, 2012, 11:40:35 pm
tiller looks just fine my friend, very good.
Title: Re: Sinew Backed Cedar......re-visited
Post by: JW_Halverson on March 12, 2012, 11:44:32 pm
Good Lord, that bow is nothing but a streak of sexy!
Title: Re: Sinew Backed Cedar......re-visited
Post by: Gus on March 13, 2012, 02:50:44 am
Yes Sir!

What J.W. Said!
That Bow is HOT!

-gus
Title: Re: Sinew Backed Cedar......re-visited
Post by: randman on March 13, 2012, 04:36:03 am
Indescribably beautiful!
Title: Re: Sinew Backed Cedar......re-visited
Post by: Ryan_Gill_HuntPrimitive on March 13, 2012, 01:43:44 pm
thanks so much guys.  I am really pleased with it, its definitely staying in my personal collection.  not often you get a reeeeaaaall good one and this one is it.lol  i have about a half doz more ERC staves so we shall see what happens.lol
Title: Re: Sinew Backed Cedar......re-visited
Post by: paulsemp on March 13, 2012, 01:46:44 pm
Missed this post, NICE BOW! That is one of the cleanest sinew jobs I have ever seen!
Title: Re: Sinew Backed Cedar......re-visited
Post by: coaster500 on March 13, 2012, 03:04:34 pm
That is georgous, great work!!!

Title: Re: Sinew Backed Cedar......re-visited
Post by: gutpile on March 13, 2012, 03:08:31 pm
Ryan that is saawwweeeet bro..very nice...you sure like to cut your nocks in deep huh..LOL....question on the back sinew apparently you didn't shred it and just laid it in sheets correct....man that is a pretty job....I got a few really straight ERC staves and you just lit a fire under my butt to get one done....
Title: Re: Sinew Backed Cedar......re-visited
Post by: gstoneberg on March 13, 2012, 03:11:39 pm
I missed it too, great bow!  Nice sinew job, actually the nicest I've seen in a very long time.  Those limb tips should be real light, I can see how it'd have great performance and shoot nicely. 

George
Title: Re: Sinew Backed Cedar......re-visited
Post by: Ryan_Gill_HuntPrimitive on March 13, 2012, 03:59:01 pm
thanks again

gutpile-  yeah i like to cut em deep..lol   the sinew is shreaded, just hours of laying it straight involved.  the whole limbs look like the pic shown, no visible breaks, i blend them in tight with one another.. I might take a few more pics
Title: Re: Sinew Backed Cedar......re-visited
Post by: Dazv on March 13, 2012, 04:12:01 pm
That is the neatest sinew backing i have ever seen.
Title: Re: Sinew Backed Cedar......re-visited
Post by: gutpile on March 13, 2012, 04:33:24 pm
well dang...from the pic I would of never guessed that...that is a sweet bow..and to get that poundage is awesome....sure you don't want a Ga. bow to show your work off down here...haha
Title: Re: Sinew Backed Cedar......re-visited
Post by: lesken2011 on March 13, 2012, 04:54:48 pm
Nice job. I especially like the handle and fades of red. I think it gives it a unique look....and it's fast to boot!!
Title: Re: Sinew Backed Cedar......re-visited
Post by: Carson (CMB) on March 13, 2012, 05:37:31 pm
That is the neatest sinew backing i have ever seen.

What Dazv said.  It looks like clear glass.
Title: Re: Sinew Backed Cedar......re-visited
Post by: MoNative on March 13, 2012, 06:01:02 pm
NIce
Title: Re: Sinew Backed Cedar......re-visited
Post by: Dean Marlow on March 13, 2012, 06:24:44 pm
Ryan
   That is a beautiful Cedar bow. You be careful though. I wonder if a guy would get a cedar stave with about 1/4" sap would hold the bow together. Kind of like Yew in a sense. Dean
Title: Re: Sinew Backed Cedar......re-visited
Post by: Ryan_Gill_HuntPrimitive on March 13, 2012, 06:39:42 pm
thanks,

Dean, the one i have in BOM is chased down to a thin layer of sapwood like yew.  it did ok....its 70" long tho..lol  thats how the last one blew up on me tho.  1\4 sapwood unbacked....kablammo
Title: Re: Sinew Backed Cedar......re-visited
Post by: Ifrit617 on March 13, 2012, 06:44:47 pm
Incredible bow... The colors are spectacular..

Jon
Title: Re: Sinew Backed Cedar......re-visited
Post by: missilemaster on March 13, 2012, 10:17:44 pm
Beautiful bow man. Love the way you do your handles! Great work!!!

                                             Cody
Title: Re: Sinew Backed Cedar......re-visited
Post by: hembreed on April 18, 2012, 05:29:42 pm
I have a lot of Juniper and was wondering how mixing the heartwood and sap wood might work out. Looking forward to your next effort.