Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Pappy on September 17, 2007, 12:39:28 pm
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Mickey Lotzs left his motorcycle trailer at the farm for a week while he and his wife took a ride,as a gift he gave me a set of carp skins for backing a bow,never used fish shins before and was wondering if you do them just like you would a snake,got a little experience with snake but not fish.Anything I should watch out for or do different. ???
Pappy
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Are you sure Mickey "gave" them to you. Smells a little "fishy" to me. OK it was a bad joke, but I'm full of bad jokes. Justin
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Marc, Tim Ott did an article in The Bowyers Journal a while back about carp skin backings. You might also try TradGand, "How to" section for carp skin backings. Pat
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I meant Mark or Pappy. ;D Pat
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Pat these are long and when I unrolled them they look like a snake skin,just wider. :)And
no smell justin. :)
Pappy
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Pappy, I'd say to do them just as you would snake skins. Carp skins makes for a beautiful bow backing. Pat
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Thanks Pat that is kind of what I thought.Just never seen one backed.
Pappy
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Sinew Backed....
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y215/Sparky59/shortiesinew4.jpg)
R
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Thanks Roger that looks good.Love to see the rest of the bow.It looks like the skin
is almost transparent. :) That is carp over sinew isn't it ? :)
Pappy
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i understnd hide and sinew add strengyh to a bow but with these other backings its mostly asthetics, right? the glue should help protect the backing. i ask because i am haveing trouble with splinters on some and i need to make repairs. i havent been boneing my whitewoods, is it important. if im going to back a bow should i bone. i found a large jute patio carpet [8x8] woven with heavy fibers on a curb ,trash, and picked it up. is it worth unraveling for backing. four more questions for some kind soul . alms, almsfor the poor. thank you butch
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Thanks Pappy...
If you do a search under the word "fishy", it will bring up a thread with a few pics on it. There is one where I used the "bronze" colored portion of the skins and the other is where it transitions into the silver looking. Hide glue works really well with these.
Don't use too hot of a temp in your water when you de-grease...I almost cooked a set by doing that ;D
R
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That looks great Roger,I can't wait to get them on something.As for you question butch,the skins are for looks althow they will help seal out moisture.I use to bone or we call it burnish but hardly
ever do it anymore,some say it is good and some say not and I ant sure weather it dose any good or not.Roger what do you degrease them with,never done that to snake skins.
Pappy
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Pull out your 14.3 issue Pappy, it has several articls on fish skins and one is by Tim Ott ;D Volume 14 is 2006 8)
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Pappy,
I de-grease near bout' everthing I glue on a bow... ;D
I just use a little warm water and Dawn...works like a charm. Rinse well in cool water.
Hint: If yours are Grass Carp...when you apply them the little black skin tags where the scales were attached will kinda be all over the place. Take a damp soft cloth and go over them while still wet and align and arrange them...you'll see. They lay better from head to tail....
R
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Sounds easy enough,and thanks Marie I just happen to have that issue. :)
Pappy
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Here ya go Pappy, the bottom one has the carp skins on it. Makes a neat looking camo backing. Can't wait to see what ya do with them.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/theferret111/skins.jpg)
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Here's a close up. This is my bow "Alpha Static" made by Tim Ott who pioneered the use of carp skins as a backing as far as I know.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/theferret111/Alphastatic2.jpg)
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Good God!!! ;D ;D ;D.