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Title: Outbound 2012 Trade Bow
Post by: Gus on August 12, 2012, 12:57:48 am
Well Here she is Fellas...

This has been the Most Confounding bow for me to date.
I stopped counting the Heating Sessions after thirty.
Initially Steam, which did not work for this stick, and finally Many Heat Gun sessions.
Basically what worked in the end, sort of, would be to get her setup in the jig,
heat her up with the heat gun like I was toasting, as color started to show, make my correction.
I used Tung Oil coats while I was heating the wood to keep it from drying out too much.
All of which was sanded off later.

She's got two pass through knots and one more that did not quite make it all the way through.
I filled the Pith holes and the short knot hole with Green Turquoise from the Kingman Mine in Arizona.
The horn overlays and the arrow pass are American Bison, cut from the tip of a single horn.

The tiller is far from perfect.
I had to lean hard on a good thickness taper with the weird reflex/deflex parts in each limb.
The Heat resistance coupled with funky knot placement really kept me from straightening her out more than I did.
She started out with 1 1/2" of reflex and wound up almost flat at rest.
Just unstrung she shows 1 1/2 inches of string follow but relaxes to about even.

Bottom Line:
I apologize to the group and Mr. (@*!&#@!) for this bow being so late in shipping.
I hope it makes it to you safely and serves you well.

Particulars:
Pacific Dogwood
68.5" NtN
Limbs Parallel all the way out, tapering the last eight inches to 1/2" nocks.
56# @ 28"
12 strand B-50 string.
Got 125 arrows through her before starting the finishing process.
No Chrono, but she does thump em deep.
Ten coats of Tru Oil.
Kangaroo Leather grip wrap and Lace.


Here are the Pics:

(http://i1251.photobucket.com/albums/hh547/augustus1967/IMG_1546.jpg)
(http://i1251.photobucket.com/albums/hh547/augustus1967/IMG_1547.jpg)
(http://i1251.photobucket.com/albums/hh547/augustus1967/IMG_1552.jpg)
(http://i1251.photobucket.com/albums/hh547/augustus1967/IMG_1561.jpg)
(http://i1251.photobucket.com/albums/hh547/augustus1967/IMG_1555.jpg)
(http://i1251.photobucket.com/albums/hh547/augustus1967/IMG_1562.jpg)
(http://i1251.photobucket.com/albums/hh547/augustus1967/IMG_1563.jpg)
(http://i1251.photobucket.com/albums/hh547/augustus1967/IMG_1566.jpg)
(http://i1251.photobucket.com/albums/hh547/augustus1967/IMG_1569.jpg)
(http://i1251.photobucket.com/albums/hh547/augustus1967/IMG_1571.jpg)
(http://i1251.photobucket.com/albums/hh547/augustus1967/IMG_1574.jpg)

I'll try to get a Full Draw up tomorrow.
She will ship Monday.
Thanks for looking.

-gus
Title: Re: Outbound 2012 Trade Bow
Post by: Pat B on August 12, 2012, 01:09:47 am
She's a beauty Gus. Someone will be excited when they get this bow.  ;)
Title: Re: Outbound 2012 Trade Bow
Post by: Weylin on August 12, 2012, 01:13:46 am
That's a cool looking bow, can't wait to see the full draw. Somebody's definitely going to be excited to get that one. Way to stick with it.
Title: Re: Outbound 2012 Trade Bow
Post by: coaster500 on August 12, 2012, 01:48:03 am
Gus someone will be very proud to own your bow....   well done :)
Title: Re: Outbound 2012 Trade Bow
Post by: Badly Bent on August 12, 2012, 02:08:45 am
I like the look of that bow Gus. The turquoise inlays look cool with that wood color. With 30 + heat sessions it must have been a stubborn piece of wood but you did a beautiful job on it.
Greg
Title: Re: Outbound 2012 Trade Bow
Post by: bubby on August 12, 2012, 04:25:40 am
some thing's are worth waiting for Gus, your bow look's like one of them, Bub
Title: Re: Outbound 2012 Trade Bow
Post by: lesken2011 on August 12, 2012, 09:39:52 am
Whoever that recipient is shouldn't mind at all waiting for that jewel!! ;D
Title: Re: Outbound 2012 Trade Bow
Post by: fishfinder401 on August 12, 2012, 10:17:48 am
that is a great looking bow ;D
Title: Re: Outbound 2012 Trade Bow
Post by: seabass on August 12, 2012, 12:45:07 pm
you did good brother.nice bow for sure.
Title: Re: Outbound 2012 Trade Bow
Post by: beetlebailey1977 on August 12, 2012, 01:55:39 pm
I was just thinking about you and that bow last night.  Was wondering how it was going......knew you were working hard on it.  Very nice to say the least.  A super good looking bow that I am sure is well worth the wait for the lucky recipient.
Title: Re: Outbound 2012 Trade Bow
Post by: Gus on August 12, 2012, 05:03:34 pm
Thank You Fellas,

I really do like this bow...
But I'll sure be Happy, and a little sad to see her go.

Got another stave of Pacific Dogwood I picked up at the same time as this one.
Hopefully it will go a little smoother, taking into account everything I learned building this bow.
I will be using the Heat Gun from the start, no more steam... and use quite a bit more corrective deflection
when bending, than I would for other types of wood.

But now I have quite a few other staves prepped and ready to work on.
As I would hit the wall in frustration working on the Dogwood, I would set it aside pull out a raw stave and chase a ring, do a lay out, or
rough out a bow.

So I'm guessing it will be a while before I get back to Dogwood... :)

-gus


Title: Re: Outbound 2012 Trade Bow
Post by: mullet on August 12, 2012, 10:48:22 pm
Boy, that's a pretty one, Gus. I looked like a challengeing piece of wood.
Title: Re: Outbound 2012 Trade Bow
Post by: vinemaplebows on August 13, 2012, 02:08:29 am
Nice bow! I never had that much issue with Pacific dogwood, and hope to not run into one!
Title: Re: Outbound 2012 Trade Bow
Post by: Youngboyer2(billyf) on August 13, 2012, 02:14:45 am
That turquoise  is amazing, and it makes me wanna look for a stave with holes in it
Title: Re: Outbound 2012 Trade Bow
Post by: Gus on August 13, 2012, 02:56:32 am
Thank You mullet.
I'm a sucker for pass through knot holes.
And it looked a lot straighter before I skinned the bark off her.  :)

I hear ya vinemaplebows, this bow would take a bend and I'd think "Thank Goodness I finally got what I needed."
I'd leave her in the caul over night, then take her out and let her rest a day.
Then the next day I'd take a look and she'd lost 2/3's of the correction, or more...  ???
Finally started over correcting a lot more than I thought she needed, and
leaving her clamped down for 24 hours after last heat. And she finally started
coming around. :)

Thank You Youngboyer2, I do love the Turquoise.
This it the third bow I've put it on, though I've been using it on other wood projects for about five years.

Okay, here is the full draw.
The dog leg is in the upper limb just out of the fade.

(http://i1251.photobucket.com/albums/hh547/augustus1967/P8120097-1.jpg)

-gus
Title: Re: Outbound 2012 Trade Bow
Post by: Pappy on August 13, 2012, 09:10:19 am
Good looking bow,way to stay with it,wonder how that wood compairs to the Dogwood we have here in Tennessee,it seems to work pretty good with dry heat. :) :) Maybe just different type wood or some wood just more stubborn than others. :) Either way turned out nice. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: Outbound 2012 Trade Bow
Post by: criveraville on August 13, 2012, 01:22:44 pm
Gus that's a real beauty!!! Someone is going to be mighty happy  ;)

Cipriano
Title: Re: Outbound 2012 Trade Bow
Post by: darwin on August 13, 2012, 02:06:57 pm
i have been waiting to see this one finished for awhile now, and it looks great! im glad you finally got it to bend the way you wanted
Title: Re: Outbound 2012 Trade Bow
Post by: Josh B on August 14, 2012, 02:53:06 pm
Way to stick with it Gus! It will be worth the wait, I'm sure.  You did a good job posting your progress with it , so your recipient should know and understand the effort that you put into this bow for them. Good work all around.  Josh
Title: Re: Outbound 2012 Trade Bow
Post by: Gus on August 14, 2012, 04:27:22 pm
Thank You for the kind words Pappy.
I've learned a lot from looking at the bows you've built and reading your sage advice.
Not sure how Pacific Dogwood would stack up to Tennessee Dogwood, as this is the first piece of Dogwood I've gotten my hands on.  :)

Thank You Cipriano.
I know you got an ear full about this bow from time to time...   :o
I hope she performs good and works well into the future for Mr. X... :)

Thank You Darwin.
She went out into the Big Wide World today.
Hopefully she'll live long, and be an asset to her new owner.

Thank You Gun Doc.
I appreciate your kind words, and the encouragement of an accomplished Bow Builder.
I admit there were times when I considered leaning this one in the corner and picking up a piece of Osage to take a perceived easier path.
But I knew there was a bow in there.

May Her String Never Break, and Her Arrows Fly True.
She should arrive at her new home Friday Afternoon.

-gus