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Title: Lakota bows - very interesting collection
Post by: zinger on August 31, 2012, 10:03:40 am

http://groups.creighton.edu/sfmission/museum/exhibits/bowsandarrows/signatures.html

Title: Re: Lakota bows - very interesting collection
Post by: coaster500 on August 31, 2012, 10:39:05 am

Good read...  Interesting :)

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Post by: SLIMBOB on August 31, 2012, 11:01:54 am

Very cool article!

Title: Re: Lakota bows - very interesting collection
Post by: toomanyknots on August 31, 2012, 11:13:58 am

"A hunting tool and a weapon of war, the bow could sustain life and also take it away."

I find this a very simple, yet at the same time very powerful statement. I don't think a 1000 years of obscenely unnecessary and backwards technology, hunting rifle's with heat seaking bullets that hunt and shoot themselves so you don't even have to leave your living room, flying cars, and living like the jetsons, could weed out archery from the human psyche. (psyche or soul, one of the two... ) 

Title: Re: Lakota bows - very interesting collection
Post by: Parnell on August 31, 2012, 02:54:46 pm

Enjoyed that.  Good post.

Title: Re: Lakota bows - very interesting collection
Post by: Shaun on August 31, 2012, 04:21:25 pm

The author calls these bows "reflex/deflex" but they appear to me to be what we call "gullwing" or deflex/reflex.

Title: Re: Lakota bows - very interesting collection
Post by: Traxx on August 31, 2012, 04:36:37 pm

Shaun,

Actually,they are Reflex/Deflex.They Reflex at the riser and deflex in the limbs.R/D is commonly called a Gullwing.A Delex/Reflex,Deflexes at the riser and reflexes in the limbs.This confusion seems to be a common to a lot of people these days.

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Post by: k-hat on August 31, 2012, 06:43:17 pm

Very cool, think i might make some of those :D

I wonder if those dots were maybe a guide for tillering/tapering?  They would highlight the curve nicely when strung and pulled.

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Post by: ErictheViking on August 31, 2012, 07:49:52 pm

Cool stuff, thanks for the post

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Post by: raghorns on August 31, 2012, 08:14:10 pm

This is amazing...I will definitely make it a point to one day visit the museum... thanks for sharing.

Lyle

Title: Re: Lakota bows - very interesting collection
Post by: Weylin on September 01, 2012, 01:50:32 pm

That bow lance was crazy looking!  :o It's hard to imagine that your bow would shoot smoothly or quickly with  huge spear tip sticking off the bottom tip.

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Post by: tipi stuff on September 01, 2012, 07:51:38 pm

Weylin, the bow lances weren't shooting bows. They were emblems of rank for certain miliatry societies and were used as a lance. Many of them have the string tied down.  CC

Title: Re: Lakota bows - very interesting collection
Post by: zinger on September 03, 2012, 05:21:50 pm

@Shawn & Trax - Had the very same question in mind as I am beginning to make gullwing type bows that are curved in toward the belly at the riser with no recurve at the tips. So what I am making is reflex/deflex?

Glad all of you enjoyed the article.

Title: Re: Lakota bows - very interesting collection
Post by: Traxx on September 03, 2012, 06:26:23 pm

If i am understanding your description ,it sounds like you are making a deflexed riser.Are your limbs straight off the riser?If so,it is a reflexed risered straight bow,or a foreward handled bow,as many call them.

Title: Re: Lakota bows - very interesting collection
Post by: Traxx on September 03, 2012, 06:27:54 pm

I meant to say,Deflexed risered straight limbed bow

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Post by: arklowrebel on September 04, 2012, 09:15:18 am

Great stuff - thanks for posting the link! :)

Title: Re: Lakota bows - very interesting collection
Post by: Oglala Bowyer on September 04, 2012, 10:01:08 am

I have the site on my "favorites" list at work.  When I'm bored at work (always) I just check out these bows.  I actually went to the museum and seen some of the bows.  A little friendly advice, I would ask the curator to see all the bows.  There they can take you to the basement and show you the collection.  For now, they have about three bows on display; one of which is high eagle's bow.

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Post by: arklowrebel on September 04, 2012, 02:11:11 pm

I have a nice piece of ash at home waiting to be turned into a bow.  I reckon a replica (in so far as I can manage it) of High Bald Eagle's bow would make a nice challenge for me over the long winter months ahead.   :)  Copies of everything printed and heading home to my shed!

Title: Re: Lakota bows - very interesting collection
Post by: zinger on September 05, 2012, 12:47:25 am

 @ Trax -It's a self bow and the limbs are pretty much straight as they come off the riser so that is prettty much it then - a deflexed riser straight limbed bow. TY for the help!

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Post by: zinger on September 05, 2012, 01:12:09 am

@ Oglala - it's great that you've actually been able to see and handle some of these. I'm curious - reading the article I got the impression that most of them were not sinew backed. Is this the case with the ones you saw?

Title: Re: Lakota bows - very interesting collection
Post by: zinger on September 05, 2012, 01:14:18 am

Arklo - sounds like a good challenge, but this would be something else:http://www.cowanauctions.com/auctions/item.aspx?ItemId=49976

Title: Re: Lakota bows - very interesting collection
Post by: arklowrebel on September 06, 2012, 12:16:05 pm

Thanks Zinger!  Might take me a while to get to that level!   :)