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Title: Yew Warbow - 130-140# question.
Post by: }|{opukc on September 04, 2012, 08:40:09 am
Now recently I got a really nice with Yew. Long about 82 inches and 2x2 inches wide and thick.
I do not know the size to work with yew about 130-140 #

(http://prikachi.com/images/651/5225651X.jpg)

(http://prikachi.com/images/653/5225653s.jpg)

(http://prikachi.com/images/657/5225657K.jpg)

George
Title: Re: Yew Warbow - 130-140# question.
Post by: Yeomanbowman on September 04, 2012, 09:41:53 am
George,

Many Mary Rose bows are just a little under 1 1/2" wide at the centre (I think the very widest is 42mm) and 1 1/4" deep.  I'm sure 40 x 35mm would achieve your aim.  The wood looks nice and dense.

Good luck,
Jeremy

Title: Re: Yew Warbow - 130-140# question.
Post by: bobnewboy on September 04, 2012, 10:09:27 am
What a nice looking piece of wood.  One day.....one day.
Title: Re: Yew Warbow - 130-140# question.
Post by: adb on September 05, 2012, 01:38:28 am
It is my opinion that your piece of yew is not dense enough to make 130-140#. It looks to me like your stave only has maybe 20 rpi. It's hard to tell without some sort of measuring reference. Could you take a picture with a ruler beside your stave?
Title: Re: Yew Warbow - 130-140# question.
Post by: }|{opukc on September 05, 2012, 02:40:20 am
It is my opinion that your piece of yew is not dense enough to make 130-140#. It looks to me like your stave only has maybe 20 rpi. It's hard to tell without some sort of measuring reference. Could you take a picture with a ruler beside your stave?

(http://i47.tinypic.com/2my5kza.jpg)

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I think I started in this database sizes.

(http://prikachi.com/images/511/5230511F.jpg)
Title: Re: Yew Warbow - 130-140# question.
Post by: adb on September 05, 2012, 12:37:44 pm
I see about 30 rpi. I wouldn't try pushing this stave to 130 -140#. Just MHO. I have a couple of yew staves with 50 -60 rpi, that I think might make that sort of weight. However, yew is amazing wood. Very elastic. There's only one way to find out... give it a go!
Title: Re: Yew Warbow - 130-140# question.
Post by: Ian. on September 05, 2012, 01:19:49 pm
If you can't make 140 with that stave there is something wrong, just don't make it too long and make sure it's seasoned enough.
Title: Re: Yew Warbow - 130-140# question.
Post by: }|{opukc on September 05, 2012, 02:19:54 pm
Yes,140# is too large and difficult to pull, but 130# would be better. OK, now I'm waiting to take off a little moisture in the tree and started working.
Thanks for help
George
Title: Re: Yew Warbow - 130-140# question.
Post by: }|{opukc on September 18, 2012, 12:37:27 pm
This lightly ... I started working on this warbow. These are still rough dimensions and square belly. Will continue working after a while. Expect a sequel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1InRCzZIo3c

G.
Title: Re: Yew Warbow - 130-140# question.
Post by: fishfinder401 on September 18, 2012, 03:53:22 pm
This lightly ... I started working on this warbow. These are still rough dimensions and square belly. Will continue working after a while. Expect a sequel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1InRCzZIo3c

G.
oh, so thats what that was, while i was watching this befroe i was wondering, looks great so far
Title: Re: Yew Warbow - 130-140# question.
Post by: Davepim on October 05, 2012, 08:24:20 am
You seem to have left an awful lot of sapwood on that stave! I'd have taken away at least half of that before touching the belly of the bow. That way you would have got better performance out of it.

Cheers, Dave
Title: Re: Yew Warbow - 130-140# question.
Post by: }|{opukc on October 11, 2012, 02:46:45 pm
Final tillering. Dimensions - 77" ntn 37x33mm in centet and 14x14mm in nocks
Bow is braced at 6" with a short string. I've used fiber Dyneema D75 16 pieces
Draw in the picture is 22 ", by at 18" bow pulled 60#
Comments please!

(http://i50.tinypic.com/bg7nsn.jpg)

George
Title: Re: Yew Warbow - 130-140# question.
Post by: Del the cat on October 11, 2012, 06:38:36 pm
Looking good.
Holding a CD up in front of the pic, it looks like maybe the right limb is working a tad hard in it's centre. Maybe a whisker stiff in it's inner 1/3 ?
Del
Title: Re: Yew Warbow - 130-140# question.
Post by: adb on October 11, 2012, 08:59:29 pm
That is looking very nice. You should easily get 100+# out of it. It's stiff in the handle, but it's far from full draw. Keep going!
Title: Re: Yew Warbow - 130-140# question.
Post by: }|{opukc on October 12, 2012, 04:48:13 am
Looking good.
Holding a CD up in front of the pic, it looks like maybe the right limb is working a tad hard in it's centre. Maybe a whisker stiff in it's inner 1/3 ?
Del

The left limb is stiff to me, it is lower, there are about 1 " reflex near the middle, and it makes it a little hard there, but you are right, may be right limb looks is hard.

That is looking very nice. You should easily get 100+# out of it. It's stiff in the handle, but it's far from full draw. Keep going!

ya, in my opinion bow will go up to 100 + on 28-29 "and about 125-130 at 32"
Thanks!!

G.
Title: Re: Yew Warbow - 130-140# question.
Post by: }|{opukc on October 12, 2012, 07:28:31 am
Graphically this is the situation - the bow have a very hard section in the handle.

(http://prikachi.com/images/11/5369011n.jpg)
Title: Re: Yew Warbow - 130-140# question.
Post by: adb on October 12, 2012, 11:52:20 am
The handle will start to move as you increase the draw length. Better having a stiff handle now, than too much bend there early.
Title: Re: Yew Warbow - 130-140# question.
Post by: }|{opukc on October 13, 2012, 06:56:16 am
25" draw
(http://prikachi.com/images/298/5372298T.jpg)
Title: Re: Yew Warbow - 130-140# question.
Post by: adb on October 13, 2012, 09:48:31 am
The tiller is looking very good. What weight are you at with 25"?
Title: Re: Yew Warbow - 130-140# question.
Post by: }|{opukc on October 13, 2012, 10:08:30 am
The tiller is looking very good. What weight are you at with 25"?
Thanks..OK, that sounds a encouraging! :)
~95. Increased by 5 # per inches for now.
Title: Re: Yew Warbow - 130-140# question.
Post by: fishfinder401 on October 14, 2012, 03:15:58 pm
wow, i am loving the look of this bow, but i think mabey there should be a little more bend mid limb? could be wrong though
Title: Re: Yew Warbow - 130-140# question.
Post by: adb on October 14, 2012, 03:19:13 pm
The tiller is looking very good. What weight are you at with 25"?
Thanks..OK, that sounds a encouraging! :)
~95. Increased by 5 # per inches for now.
Are you pulling it at full brace height  now?
Title: Re: Yew Warbow - 130-140# question.
Post by: }|{opukc on October 14, 2012, 05:23:41 pm
This is 30" draw - still hard in the upper limb maybe .. or eye in a lie .. also a little work in center.
~115-117# for 30"

(http://prikachi.com/images/249/5379249l.jpg)

(http://prikachi.com/images/246/5379246Z.jpg)

G.
Title: Re: Yew Warbow - 130-140# question.
Post by: adb on October 14, 2012, 05:55:56 pm
Yes, I agree. Your top limb is stiffer, especially in the outer third.
Title: Re: Yew Warbow - 130-140# question.
Post by: }|{opukc on October 14, 2012, 06:03:14 pm
Yes, I agree. Your top limb is stiffer, especially in the outer third.
!? I think the first third is hard -
Title: Re: Yew Warbow - 130-140# question.
Post by: adb on October 14, 2012, 06:04:16 pm
Agreed. If that bow was mine, I'd get the top fade working a bit, and bring the tip of the top limb around a bit more.
Title: Re: Yew Warbow - 130-140# question.
Post by: }|{opukc on October 22, 2012, 06:55:42 am
Hi, dudes,
sо, that finished this bow - ~125 # @ 32 ".It's а very hard yet. I have a bow over 130 which pulled easier than this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ul8pL7G2Ws&list=UUzNjsGSk-vFoeGA1eYL_AMA&index=2&feature=plcp

G.
Title: Re: Yew Warbow - 130-140# question.
Post by: adb on October 22, 2012, 11:28:29 am
It certainly seems like you're struggling to get it to full draw!
Title: Re: Yew Warbow - 130-140# question.
Post by: Keenan on October 22, 2012, 12:17:40 pm
 Looking awesome! Congratulations. Very sweet bend. Man whenever I get on this war bow section and start reading the pounds you guys are pulling, I start feeling very old and weak ::)
Title: Re: Yew Warbow - 130-140# question.
Post by: }|{opukc on October 23, 2012, 08:24:28 am
 :)This yew makes my shoulders applause ..force is not smooth, but too much for the last few inches.
Title: Re: Yew Warbow - 130-140# question.
Post by: DarkSoul on October 24, 2012, 06:55:58 am
I'm seeing a small hinge in the lower limb, about 8 or 10" from the tip. But I haven't seen an unbraced picture yet, so this hinge could very well be a small spot with deflex.
I would only work the inner third of both limbs at this point. The outer limbs are working pretty good, but it's the inner thirds that are stiff.

Also, get rid of that tiller stick. It's a huge set inducer, if not a murderer for such heavy bows. Use a tiller tree with pulley system, or the mirror.
Title: Re: Yew Warbow - 130-140# question.
Post by: AH on December 11, 2012, 01:31:30 am
how thick is the sapwood layer on that bow? I have a curing yew stave with a layer just over 3/8" which i think is a little too much, but the rings per inch are 40, and I don't know how to reduce the sapwood without violating a ring on wood like that.
Title: Re: Yew Warbow - 130-140# question.
Post by: }|{opukc on December 11, 2012, 05:17:43 am
I'm not detract from sap of this yew - a little less than 3/8

(http://i47.tinypic.com/2my5kza.jpg)

(http://prikachi.com/images/798/5594798J.jpg)

G
Title: Re: Yew Warbow - 130-140# question.
Post by: }|{opukc on May 07, 2013, 02:00:02 pm
(http://prikachi.com/images/203/6163203G.jpg)

(http://prikachi.com/images/204/6163204B.jpg)

Title: Re: Yew Warbow - 130-140# question.
Post by: Ian. on May 07, 2013, 02:08:40 pm
Nice bow.
Title: Re: Yew Warbow - 130-140# question.
Post by: adb on May 07, 2013, 03:56:19 pm
Hey, George... nice bow indeed! Do you have a full draw picture?
Title: Re: Yew Warbow - 130-140# question.
Post by: }|{opukc on May 20, 2013, 01:39:18 pm
Sorry for poor quality picture, but no date.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/416810_530040917009267_672153149_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Yew Warbow - 130-140# question.
Post by: Ian. on May 20, 2013, 01:43:58 pm
Again looks very nice, well done. All the way though you seemed on top of the project. Rare piece of yew indeed.
Title: Re: Yew Warbow - 130-140# question.
Post by: Rafael on June 09, 2013, 04:56:14 am
Поздравляю Жора с мощным боевым английским тиссовым луком!  Молодец!
Cant pull anything heavier than 70- 75#  at the moment
Title: Re: Yew Warbow - 130-140# question.
Post by: BowSlayer on June 26, 2013, 01:46:13 pm
sweet bow! i hope i get something similr to this with my Yew but maybe aroung the 45-50#@26" i know thats not quite warbow weight but it's something i feel confident i could pull. why no handle wrap? thanks.
Title: Re: Yew Warbow - 130-140# question.
Post by: WillS on June 26, 2013, 02:19:21 pm
Warbows don't have handle wraps.