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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: blackhawk on October 16, 2012, 06:32:19 pm

Title: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: blackhawk on October 16, 2012, 06:32:19 pm
Heres a 52" hophornbeam...R/D molly bends thru the handle...50's@26"....final mass weigh in 13.8 ounces....it has a character lump in the upper limb that only covers the center of the limb and i had to hollow it out to tiller that area....gotta love the toughness and elasticity of hhb holding up to that strain in a high stressed shorty with that cross section. Anyways,im gonna do this backwards and get straight to business

(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x436/blackhawk28/100_0444.jpg)

(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x436/blackhawk28/100_0436.jpg)

(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x436/blackhawk28/100_0422.jpg)

(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x436/blackhawk28/100_0432.jpg)

(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x436/blackhawk28/100_0431.jpg)

(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x436/blackhawk28/100_0423.jpg)

heres the belly showing it flat then where it goes to the hollowed out spot at that lump

(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x436/blackhawk28/100_0427.jpg)


thanks for looking..chris
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: sharpend60 on October 16, 2012, 06:41:24 pm
Thats a nice one for sure.

Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: JonW on October 16, 2012, 06:43:01 pm
That's a little sweetie for sure.
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: bubby on October 16, 2012, 06:47:41 pm
damn blackhawk, make those levers any thinner and you'll be able to see thru'em, nice one , bub
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: SLIMBOB on October 16, 2012, 06:54:53 pm
Love it.  Looks like it ought to be fast with a sweet send off.
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: sharpend60 on October 16, 2012, 06:56:02 pm
I wonder though...

Did you have osage on the brain?
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: blackhawk on October 16, 2012, 07:09:51 pm
thanks sharpend....dude i always got osage on the brain  8)

thanks jon... ;)

thanks bubby....next time ill try to make them invisable  :D

thanks slimbob...thats a good definition of it
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: sharpend60 on October 16, 2012, 07:30:10 pm
Well I got Vine maple on the brain...
it just doesnt have the same ring does it.

Back on topic...

How about some dimensions?
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: blackhawk on October 16, 2012, 08:04:14 pm
Its a 40/60 lever to working limb ratio...1 7/16" wide handle that flares out to 2 1/4" at the fades, and tapers to 1 7/8" to the fades of the levers,3/4"wide 9" from tips,1/2" wide 6" from nocks, and. 300" at the string grooves,lever thickness starts at 9/16" and tapers to a hair over 7/16" right before the overlays....side notes...patchy cambium left on, and ipe overlays...that enough detail for ya ;)
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: Cameroo on October 16, 2012, 08:23:40 pm
You're crazy man :) For some reason it just doesn't surprise me any more when you post bows like these  >:D  Way to push the limits to the extreme!
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: rossfactor on October 16, 2012, 08:32:07 pm
That has "fast" written all over it. I really dig how the side profile gives no indication that the working limb is more than 2 inches wide.

Gabe
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: lesken2011 on October 16, 2012, 08:33:16 pm
I was wondering what a bendy handle molle might look like. You're the expert, but it sure looks like it could bend a little more at the lever fades. Maybe it's an optical illusion. But she really looks fine!!
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: coaster500 on October 16, 2012, 08:33:31 pm
Dang Hawkman !!!  That's just plain slick!!!!
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: Badly Bent on October 16, 2012, 09:23:52 pm
Great bow Chris, got everything going for it design wise and nicely executed too. I don't think that I would want to shoot it though,
if I did then I probably wouldn't care for shooting any of my bows anymore ;D ;D.
Greg
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: seabass on October 16, 2012, 09:39:11 pm
good job,that thing looks wicked fast.
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: k-hat on October 17, 2012, 12:24:01 am
Awe snap, hold up, i gotta wipe the drool off the keyboard!
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: Arrowind on October 17, 2012, 12:33:58 am
BEAUTIFUL!
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: osage outlaw on October 17, 2012, 12:39:06 am
That thing is awesome.  You really push the limits on the thin tips.  Great job on it Chris
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: Keenan on October 17, 2012, 12:42:37 am
Wow! I love seeing something out of the ordinary and this certainly is one of those bows. Great job with that hard to tiller hollowed out limb. Tiller looks great and outstanding clean beauty. Congratulations
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: TBod on October 17, 2012, 03:41:56 am
Very nice!
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: Jodocus on October 17, 2012, 05:45:02 am
Cool bow, nice experiment.  8)  What about that design? would you build more of these or does it has serious downsides? How does it shoot?



Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: Pappy on October 17, 2012, 06:11:49 am
Very cool,bet that thing will spit and arrow.Love the finish work also.Sweet. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: blackhawk on October 17, 2012, 07:39:17 am
Thanks to cameroo,Gabe,Kenny(tillers good for r/d profile),Kip,Greg(lol),Steve,arrowind, Keenan,tbod, and pappy for all the great responses..I always appreciate it :)

Clint I just remove all that doesn't belong,and no need having dead weight going for a free ride slowing me down ;)...thanks man.

@joducus...this is the 4th one I have made in this particular design,so that should answer your questions ;)...thanks
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on October 17, 2012, 08:01:37 am
Nice bends pal.....just so you know that yellow dye didnt fool me! Still aint the King of bow woods!
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: dwardo on October 17, 2012, 09:48:07 am
That is bonkers cool  8) Amazing work. Must try something like that one day.
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: blackhawk on October 17, 2012, 08:16:33 pm
Thanks pal..I know  ;)

Thanks dwardo...give her a go man..lemme know if ya ever need help with one ;)
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: BowEd on October 17, 2012, 08:41:37 pm
Now that's what I'm talking about.Looks GOOOOD.I had a furrow on the back of an ironwood and humped it up on the belly to compensate.Looked good.Thought it was too stiff during floor tillering and removed it.You guessed it should of left the hump there....LOL.Awsome looking little bow blackhawk.
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: Will H on October 17, 2012, 08:51:18 pm
MAN! That thing looks awesome! Well done all around! From design, tiller to finish, it's a knockout! You are the man!
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: Postman on October 17, 2012, 09:26:02 pm
D'ya ever read one of those threads where ya look at the pics, start reading comments but keep going  back 5, 6, times to check out the pics again before posting?

This would be one of those type threads ;D

Absolutely love it. Looks like a mean hunting bow.
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: Trapper Rob on October 17, 2012, 09:31:02 pm
Nice bow when I get your way you have to show me how you do that it is one sweet looking bow.
Rob
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: hunterbob on October 17, 2012, 10:16:23 pm
that is a whicked looking bow Chris. I will have to make it over and check that one out. Scary thin tips . Halloween special.
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: Carson (CMB) on October 18, 2012, 04:36:04 am
blackhawk, never get tired of seeing your bows.  That is pure sweetness.
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: straightarrow on October 18, 2012, 06:47:57 am
Looks awesome, Chris!!!! Now go whack a deer!!!!!
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: blackhawk on October 18, 2012, 08:17:54 am
Thanks y'all  ;)  yinz guys are to nice
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: Buckeye Guy on October 18, 2012, 08:42:44 am
Another fine looking Blackhawk bow !!
Good job once again !
Be carefull you don't hurt yourself with that thing!
See ya soon hopefully !
Take care !
Guy
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: Parnell on October 18, 2012, 10:52:03 am
Cool bow, nice pumpkins!
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: Sidewinder on October 18, 2012, 11:18:49 am
Wow, that is such a cool design and I agree it has fast writen all over it. Very nice work, and a shorty to boot. Love it.   Danny
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: H Rhodes on November 02, 2012, 12:17:45 am
Doggone it!  i was off hunting the whole week when you posted this one, so I am chiming in late!  Awesome bow, blackhawk.  I have been eyeing a couple of hophornbeam trees, but have never worked with it before.  It must be awesome bow wood.  That one was so yellow, I had to do a double take!  Really nice bow.
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: soy on November 02, 2012, 06:04:46 am
I can't believe I missed this 1... I find myself wondering why you're messing around with the second string woods ???  ::)  ;)
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: blackhawk on November 02, 2012, 07:35:06 am
Thanks Howard...next time just bring your computer along so ya don't miss anything..lol :laugh:

Thanks soy..I find myself wondering the same thing ::)
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: bubby on November 02, 2012, 06:29:42 pm
sometimes second string is pretty good, anyone remember Steve Young, Bub
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: blackhawk on November 02, 2012, 08:23:24 pm
Yup bub...he came after the great joe montana..who was better ..lol :laugh:

And I just found myself playing with secondstring woods again and just finish tillered n shot in a dogwood,and I didn't stop there..I tillered a black locust ready for a string....yeeeeesh...someone give me some osage..I'm gonna have to make several yeller sticks after this poor mans bow wood stint  :laugh:
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: bubby on November 02, 2012, 10:31:29 pm
JOE was better, now go make shure you wash all that locust off, dont want to contaminate that yeller gold >:D, Bub
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: simson on November 03, 2012, 06:22:37 am
Wow, that is an unbelievable bend here! This must be an extraordinary good bowwood. Really extreme.

simson
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: blackhawk on November 03, 2012, 08:58:11 am
I plan on it bub  ;)

Thanks simson ..eastern hophornbeam is a very strong and elastic wood...I'd say its one of the most elastic whitewoods,if not the most imho
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: paulsemp on November 03, 2012, 10:37:17 am
every time this bow pops up I have to go back and look at the picks! NICE
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: BowEd on November 03, 2012, 12:44:38 pm
Same here.It's about what I've read that Tim Baker would call the almost perfect bow design.Old blackhawk does his homework don't he.I just wonder how she shoots and at what rate.She's a beaut that's for sure.Come on you modest young man.Has it stopped raining yet?
Title: Re: "Super Cub"....(HHB Shorty)
Post by: blackhawk on November 03, 2012, 04:22:12 pm
Lol guys..thanks...ed its been spitting on n off today,but I got cabin fever so bad its not stopping me from shooting in two bows at the same time(dogwood n black locust)..me fingers are sore...I haven't shot this one in about a week n a half now(haven't shot any cus of the weather).