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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Bowman on October 29, 2012, 09:15:14 pm

Title: Gullwing plains
Post by: Bowman on October 29, 2012, 09:15:14 pm
Lakota sioux.
Elm, sinewbacking. Nice bow
53" ntn. 60#-26"
(http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac186/bj-ronn/IMG_6642.jpg)
(http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac186/bj-ronn/IMG_6647.jpg)
(http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac186/bj-ronn/IMG_6646.jpg)
(http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac186/bj-ronn/IMG_6645.jpg)
(http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac186/bj-ronn/IMG_6644.jpg)
(http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac186/bj-ronn/IMG_6656.jpg)
(http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac186/bj-ronn/IMG_6653.jpg)
(http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac186/bj-ronn/IMG_6666.jpg)

 :)
Title: Re: Gullwing plains
Post by: sharpend60 on October 29, 2012, 09:16:58 pm
Pretty sharp looking!

But ya know...

Sooner or later someone is gonna ask for a full draw pic and specs.
Title: Re: Gullwing plains
Post by: Bowman on October 29, 2012, 09:18:42 pm
Oh yes. I'm working on it.
 :)
Title: Re: Gullwing plains
Post by: Adam on October 29, 2012, 09:24:03 pm
Oh wow!  That's beautiful work!
Title: Re: Gullwing plains
Post by: beetlebailey1977 on October 29, 2012, 09:43:23 pm
Looking pretty good.......now lets see the full spread.  LOL
Title: Re: Gullwing plains
Post by: lesken2011 on October 29, 2012, 09:51:38 pm
Nice rustic look on that one and neat shape!
Title: Re: Gullwing plains
Post by: Badly Bent on October 29, 2012, 10:01:49 pm
Like it Bowman, want to see more pics. Unbraced, full draw and anything else you got cause that bows a beauty. :)
Greg
Title: Re: Gullwing plains
Post by: ojibwatbowyer on October 29, 2012, 10:30:53 pm
Im loving this bow, what are the specs man?!  :)
Title: Re: Gullwing plains
Post by: Ifrit617 on October 29, 2012, 10:34:19 pm
Now that is authentic looking.. Lets see more!

Jon
Title: Re: Gullwing plains
Post by: adb on October 29, 2012, 11:44:12 pm
Sure hope we get to see the money shot soon!
Title: Re: Gullwing plains
Post by: soy on October 29, 2012, 11:45:25 pm
So far so good man! got to see some more that 1 ;)
Title: Re: Gullwing plains
Post by: Newindian on October 30, 2012, 12:17:02 am
favorite type of bow
Title: Re: Gullwing plains
Post by: simson on October 30, 2012, 07:09:48 am
really nice shape you got there!

As the others said, let us see more pics ...
Looking at the handle pic: Is here a lift off of sinew? If so, I would fix it with fish glue or hide glue.
Nock and handle pic: not shure about the wrappings. Is this artificial sinew? If so replace it with real sinew. This is a beautyful bow and should have the origin materials.
Hope you don't mind ....

simson
Title: Re: Gullwing plains
Post by: Bowman on October 30, 2012, 09:19:30 am
Yes. I'll show some more pictures sooner. The bow is not finished. Yes I will replace the artificial sinew with real sinew. Sooner. :-) But the bow has a great shape. Thanks to all of you. :-) I will show some more pioctures att full draw sooner. I need a little help from my brother. He is the photographer. ;)
Title: Re: Gullwing plains
Post by: Parnell on October 30, 2012, 10:37:26 am
Very nice.  I like to shoot Plains style bows.  Looks like a beauty - like said, looking forward to the full draw shot.  Know anyone with an iPad?  I'd enjoy a video.  I'm curious to see more short bows shoot.
Title: Re: Gullwing plains
Post by: Trapper Rob on October 30, 2012, 01:34:36 pm
Sweet bow
Title: Re: Gullwing plains
Post by: Jodocus on October 30, 2012, 01:58:24 pm
Oh....
 8)
More pics! What did the stave look like in the beginning?

Title: Re: Gullwing plains
Post by: Bowman on October 30, 2012, 02:19:23 pm
The stave had natural refleks in the handle. Wytch elm. Its 53 " ntn. Pulls out 50# at 20". It's stacking a little from 20". I hope the bow can manage 22-23" but thats the limit I think. I'm afraid of cracking. Two layers of sinew. I think thats ok, but  I'm afraid of the belly. Funny bow.  :D
Title: Re: Gullwing plains
Post by: Starfire on October 30, 2012, 05:41:21 pm
Beautiful!  What is the handle made out of, like the way it looks?
Title: Re: Gullwing plains
Post by: Bowman on October 31, 2012, 03:16:43 am
A piece of red cloth, wrapped with artificial sinew. :-)
Title: Re: Gullwing plains
Post by: Josh B on October 31, 2012, 09:48:19 pm
You did a beautiful job on that bow.  And the handle really looks sharp!  Well done sir!  Josh
Title: Re: Gullwing plains
Post by: PatM on November 01, 2012, 12:17:20 am
Should be good for at  least 26 inch draw... The stacking is probably a combination of rapid rise in weight due to the profile and  your  nerves.
 There is little reason to bother backing an Elm stave unless you're going to ask it to do something extra.
Title: Re: Gullwing plains
Post by: Bowman on November 01, 2012, 04:46:59 am
 :D it 's the nerves. Yes indeed. :-) Maybee I reduce the drawweight a little. 50# - 21" is "overkill" :-)
Title: Re: Gullwing plains
Post by: Parnell on November 01, 2012, 10:40:02 am
I'm with PatM, that things gotta go to at least 25" the way it's built.
Title: Re: Gullwing plains
Post by: bubby on November 01, 2012, 04:22:05 pm
at 25" your probablly only looking at 62#, if that's over your max draw i'll give ya my address and i'll test it out for ya >:D ;), really nice bow,  Bub
Title: Re: Gullwing plains
Post by: Bowman on November 01, 2012, 05:34:02 pm
:-) I have no trouble with 62#. Dont'worry :-) But I think the bow maybe is to stiff in the tips. I think I'll have to reduce the tips a little. What do you think? The bow is stacking at 21"   :o

:-)
Title: Re: Gullwing plains
Post by: bubby on November 01, 2012, 05:53:17 pm
i'd really have to see a draw pic before i answer that bowman, Bub
Title: Re: Gullwing plains
Post by: PatM on November 01, 2012, 05:59:15 pm
It will feel like it is stacking even more if you reduce the tips as you will have an even worse string angle problem. It will likely drop some pounds so that it feels like it's stacking less at 20.
 However if you draw it back to the point where it actually is stacking, it will stop even more abruptly.
Title: Re: Gullwing plains
Post by: xin on November 01, 2012, 07:47:44 pm
Great craftsmanship on an authentic looking bow.  Can't beat this.  Thanks for sharing it with us.
Title: Re: Gullwing plains
Post by: Bowman on November 01, 2012, 08:00:05 pm
 :DThanks to all of you. I will show the bow at full draw in the weekend.

:-)
Title: Re: Gullwing plains
Post by: Horse Thief Killer on November 01, 2012, 10:14:00 pm
First I would like to say that I wish I had this bow, wow! These types of bows were meant to be shot off a horse so the Souix used a shooting style of drawing up into the armpit not the cheek. Wonderful bow!
Title: Re: Gullwing plains
Post by: Bowman on November 02, 2012, 04:24:50 am
Thank you Horse Thief killer. Maybe the bow should relax in the present look.  :D
Title: Re: Gullwing plains
Post by: Parnell on November 02, 2012, 11:52:59 am
It's a beautiful bow and I'm looking forward to full draw.  HTKs got a point and I short draw my short bows, often shooting from out in front of my chin - above the armpit.  But shooting 27" arrows, I like a 24 to 25 inch draw, I don't have a horse...yet.

Great stuff, still would love to see a video of it shooting!
Title: Re: Gullwing plains
Post by: Bowman on November 02, 2012, 02:55:36 pm
Thanks.  :D I'm shooting the bow now and it is extremely fast.   :o   The fastest bow I've ever build. It's like a mongol heavy horse bow. I think the upper limb is a little bit stiffer than the other. Maybe I fix that. But 21-22-23" is good enough for me. Lakota style.  :D I will now finish the bow, repair some of the sides with sinew and hide glue and do the same with the tips. If some of you are the proud owners of "Encyclopedia of native american bows, arrows and quivers"   Steve Allely and Jim Hamm, you can see my inspiration on page 152 vol 2. Thats a beautiful bow.  :D Thank you all for positive respons. I promise to show more pictures of this fantastic bow. Compliments to all of you from Norway.

Norwegian wytch elm
Norwegian elk sinew
American hide glue
Norwegian mustang horse hair tuft.
B-50
Norwegian bowyer

 ;)
Title: Re: Gullwing plains
Post by: missilemaster on November 02, 2012, 04:57:15 pm
Wow, I missed this one! Excellent work.