Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => English Warbow => Topic started by: fishfinder401 on November 01, 2012, 04:57:28 pm
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i remember when i was first starting making bows, warbows and regular weights, that i asked if could make a heavy one from home depot oak and maple, from what i remember i was told that it probably wouldn't hold up to a heavy draw weight... so recently i decided to try for my self, i haven't started tillering yet, but im going to be attempting a 150-160lb maple backed oak, it is glued up and ruffed out, now to finish getting ready to tiller, i know it wont have the best performance if it survives ,but i gave it a full 7ft for safety ( if it holds up i will decrease the length on others)
ill hopefully have pictures up tonight whether its in 1 piece or 2
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I think that if your using red oak for the belly that you would NEED to heat treat the belly to make sure that it holds up to those compression weights. Just my Honest Opinion.
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I'll be interested in how your project comes out. Thanks for the experiment!
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I think that if your using red oak for the belly that you would NEED to heat treat the belly to make sure that it holds up to those compression weights. Just my Honest Opinion.
i would heat treat it if i didn't use tb3 as im afraid to weaken the glue line
i did a little more work, and im starting to like the looks of it
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hope she hold's for ya fishy, i get all my boards at a hardwood dealer, better quality wood and actually a better price, Bub
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i have a hardwood dealer with nice ipe and other tropical hardwoods, just figured i would play around with this and see what i can do with low quality materials
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cool i'm waiting on the pics, Bub
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ill have some soon ;)
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ok, ill have some pictures in a minute, but i have started to try to bend it and tiller it, and i decided i will wait till daylight to tiller using a safer method than stepping on the string and pulling up on the bow, but as im not sure these materials will hold up im a little nervous of possibly being in the path of shrapnel if it blows
ill have pics up in a little bit of the bow in general with some meaurements
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ok, not enough light to get good pictures, they will be up tomorrow
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where's the pics fishy, Bub
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ill take them right now ;D
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WE'RE WAITING, FISH HEAD!
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ok, here they are(http://javascript:void(0);)
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ok, that didn't work, here's the link to the pics anyway
http://s1135.beta.photobucket.com/user/fishfinder401/media/IMG_01551.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0
http://s1135.beta.photobucket.com/user/fishfinder401/media/IMG_01541.jpg.html?sort=3&o=1
http://s1135.beta.photobucket.com/user/fishfinder401/media/IMG_01531.jpg.html?sort=3&o=2
http://s1135.beta.photobucket.com/user/fishfinder401/media/7ft.jpg.html?sort=3&o=3
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these dont work for me
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Uh, wow. That is one stout looking pike! Maybe you are taking up jousting? How far are you in the tillering process?
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Uh, wow. That is one stout looking pike! Maybe you are taking up jousting? How far are you in the tillering process?
yah, i need to take a little wood off, i overestimated the amount of wood needed being that its oak maple, but i have done a little long string tillering and surprisingly its bending well
and ionicmuffin, im not sure why the links aren't working, they are the urls of the page their on
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Photobucket is a tad epileptic tonite. They are changing over to a newer, more rage-inducing format.
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oh, sounds like fun ::)
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I'd actually like to hear more about this project. Dimensions on the two woods? How is it going?
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Im interested in finding out how your bow is going as well! been a while since we've heard anything from you on your bow. Hope its going well!
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i have been away a school for a the last few weeks so that explains why no progress has happened, but im hoping to have it completed when i come home for thanksgiving
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perfectly understandable. I can wait to see your progress
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perfectly understandable. I can wait to see your progress
i cant ::)
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just wanted to resurface this thread to see if you have made any progress.
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i did make some, not as much as i would have liked, but i have bent it about 6 inches( including the 2 inches of glued in reflex) its still a little heavy, and feels like its could easily be over 160 right now which wouldn't hold up with these woods im guessing, so i need to remove some more wood to get to the target of 120-130, bit it feels like this might work well from what i have seen far
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what way is it, is the oak the backing or the maple? As far as ive experienced, with a good oak board you can get away with oak backing because its good in tension.
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I have to be honest I think in this case reflex is a bad idea; but good luck with it.
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what way is it, is the oak the backing or the maple? As far as ive experienced, with a good oak board you can get away with oak backing because its good in tension.
red oak is not really a good choice of backing, especially not a 120# bow, Bub
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no probably not, but its weaker in compression than i would like.
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the red oak is the belly with the maple being a backing, and yeah, i'm kind of wishing i didn't glue in reflex but i guess ill know that for next time ;)
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I have made the mistake many a time Noel. In future, taper the belly before gluing so you get even reflex along the entire length and make it a little wider than you would for a straight bow, as it's going to want to twist on you. Have fun >:D
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hey Noel, empty your mailbox ;), sent your feathers today, Bub
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oh,sorry bout that and thanks, ill have your tab out asap, would have already but its been busy week with finals apraching
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Hey Noel! You out of school yet? I'm itching to see how this thing works out.
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nope, wont be home till next friday fora few days, then back for finals till the 21
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i know your out of school, get busy fishy, Bub
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i know! where is it! i wanna see more! i think we've waited long enough! ;)
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i know! where is it! i wanna see more! i think we've waited long enough! ;)
dont worry, besides finishing up my trade item in the next few days, it is my first priority..... you will either see progress, failure, or a success very soon
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here's to seeing your first shooter of the new year noel, Bub
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We are waiting... >:D
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sorry, finishing up my christmas exchange gift, bit it should be done or broken within a few days, especilly since a friend with a chronograph is coming over on Sunday so i really want to be able to test it out
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sorry, finishing up my christmas exchange gift, bit it should be done or broken within a few days, especilly since a friend with a chronograph is coming over on Sunday so i really want to be able to test it out
Cool, I was just joking anyway, I am the king of procrastination when it comes to bows myself, ;D.
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Come on guys, aren't bowyers supposed to be patient?? >:D Don't pressure the young lad into a premature explosion, let the explosion happen at his own pace. >:D
Ha ha. If you can't tell from the tone of my typing, I'm just bustin' your balls Noel.
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noel empty your mail box
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sorry.... i keep doing that
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So did you ever get it bending to a warbow weight?
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Let the busy man finish his bow, it is no wonder the poor guys inbox is full!
Easy does it mate, look forward in seeing how it comes out.
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i have it bending a little, and its definitely warbow weight, unfortunately my main rasp's blade broke, so that will slow down things a little... i need to get a better rasp, 3rd time its broke on me
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see if you can find some farriers in your area, call them up and ask where the buy there's or if you can get some of there old ones, they make their living with'em, they wont be crap
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see if you can find some farriers in your area, call them up and ask where the buy there's or if you can get some of there old ones, they make their living with'em, they wont be crap
after 3 blades breaking thats one of my next things to do is find some, i do know of one they sell at my local hardware store, but i don't feel like paying 40 for a file/rasp, although at this point it would have been close to paying for itself
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I just got a new bellotti $22 buck's at are feed and farm supply
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Tractor supply has them for 20 some dollars. They're nice. I got one for Christmas and have used it ALOT already. Lowe's has a nice rasp too for around $8. It's not nearly so big. It's called a woodworker's rasp. The rasp side is vaguely round, and then has an aggressive file side that is flat. I've had one since my 2nd bow and have used it extensively.
I wasn't trying to rush you by the way. Just curious of news. ;D
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I second the tractor supply farriers rasp. I used my last for 2 years, and just picked up a new one. They are perfectly fine rasps, and remove material faster than any other rasp I have found. They cost 25 dollars, but if they cost 100 dollars, I would have no problem buying one, as it is so essential to every bow I make.