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Title: Sleeve style take down (finished pg 4)
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on November 23, 2012, 11:25:15 pm
I have never tried a sleeve style take down and thought it was time.I grabbed a set of sisters my buddy Marty gave me last January. They have a nice early/late ratio and decent rings for a stump split. I wanted to try a new profile as well so I whipped up a new caul to try. So far so good. I used 5 ton epoxy and I will let it rest over night. I plan on adding tip overlays and getting it tillered and shooting tomorrow. These sleeves are almost cheatin' their so easy.... ;)
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Post by: gstoneberg on November 23, 2012, 11:34:27 pm
Looks great PD.  You sure can whip up a bow fast...nice skill to have.  Anxious to see that one finished up and shooting.

George
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Post by: bubby on November 23, 2012, 11:48:11 pm
lookin' good so far pearlie, , bub
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Post by: okie64 on November 23, 2012, 11:55:13 pm
Lookin good pd. Never had the urge to try a takedown myself but Im sure I will someday. Im sure yours will turn out great.
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Post by: lesken2011 on November 23, 2012, 11:57:21 pm
That one is lookin might fine, Chris! Nice curves, for sure!! :)
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Post by: osage outlaw on November 23, 2012, 11:58:39 pm
Looks good Pearly.  A take down is on my bucket list of bows. 
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Post by: missilemaster on November 24, 2012, 12:10:45 am
It aint a bow yet, I haven't seen a string on it! ;)
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Post by: criveraville on November 24, 2012, 01:47:55 am
Pearly that's a beauty in the works.. You make it look so darn easy.. Can't wait to see more..

Cipriano
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Post by: steve b. on November 24, 2012, 02:39:52 am
PD,  do you take all the snaky out?
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Post by: Carson (CMB) on November 24, 2012, 03:09:27 am
I bet that shinto works great for shaping the billets to those sleeves.  I love my Shinto.
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Post by: DGF on November 24, 2012, 08:18:42 am
I love the idea of a takedown bow for out of state hunting. I'll be following this one closely. Looking good PD!   :)

-Dan
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Post by: blackhawk on November 24, 2012, 09:39:28 am
Looking good pal...ya done yet :P ill be expecting to see it bent over by the end of the day.  ;)  I remember that set of billets Marty gave ya like it was yest...
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Post by: PEARL DRUMS on November 24, 2012, 09:46:42 am
PD,  do you take all the snaky out?

Just the opposite. I only manipulate it enough to line up. The rest of the life stays in it.
Title: Re: Sleeve style take down
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on November 24, 2012, 09:47:29 am
It aint a bow yet, I haven't seen a string on it! ;)

Nowhere did I call it a bow yet smarty!..............but it wont be long now...
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Post by: PEARL DRUMS on November 24, 2012, 09:51:22 am
For the record this is a large sleeve set. Its big and quite heavy. I am 6' 2" 210# with very large mits and it JUST fits me enought to be comfy. I suggest the small sleeve for nearly everybody that may want to try one. The mating of the two was easier than I have read as well. If I spent an hour total  fitting them I would be suprised. Thanks guys
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Post by: SLIMBOB on November 24, 2012, 10:05:55 am
Very cool!  Can't wait to see it finished.
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Post by: dwardo on November 24, 2012, 10:20:45 am
For the record this is a large sleeve set. Its big and quite heavy. I am 6' 2" 210# with very large mits and it JUST fits me enought to be comfy. I suggest the small sleeve for nearly everybody that may want to try one. The mating of the two was easier than I have read as well. If I spent an hour total  fitting them I would be suprised. Thanks guys

This is the bit that puts me off trying. Any tips PD? as you seem to have nailed it first time.
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Post by: Arrowind on November 24, 2012, 10:51:55 am
Looks really cool.  Can't wait to see it finished.  Always thought it would be fun to try one.
Title: Re: Sleeve style take down
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on November 24, 2012, 11:36:59 am
For the record this is a large sleeve set. Its big and quite heavy. I am 6' 2" 210# with very large mits and it JUST fits me enought to be comfy. I suggest the small sleeve for nearly everybody that may want to try one. The mating of the two was easier than I have read as well. If I spent an hour total  fitting them I would be suprised. Thanks guys

This is the bit that puts me off trying. Any tips PD? as you seem to have nailed it first time.

Start with the flattest back you can find. Get the 2" your inserting squared up perfectly to that flat back. That ensures the sleeve and bow are on the same plane and not twisted. After its squared up stand the sleeve on the end and line it up perfectly with your eyes by looking down on it directly overtop. Trace around it and rasp your way to a good fit. A 1" x 18" sanding belt helped me keep the shape and do the the dirty work nice. My Shinto worked its magic (as usual) on the rest. Just keep thinking about what will be afffected later from what your doing now. Keep in mind this is my first try and only my opinion on how to do it. 
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Post by: Dean Marlow on November 24, 2012, 01:09:10 pm
Pearl
  Glad to see this. I am working on one myself. This will help out for sure. Thanks for sharing. Dean
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Post by: PEARL DRUMS on November 24, 2012, 01:32:12 pm
I got this far and have to wait a bit. My epoxy still needs to set up harder. I havent flexed it, but I can smell it. It seems when epoxy smells, its not hard. So Im messing with my tip overlays in the meanwhile. They are from a shed my son found last spring. Being as beefy as it is, I chose to cut a very narrow shelf in. I will add leather later on to further push it out. You can really see the "sister" in these billets now.



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Post by: paulsemp on November 24, 2012, 01:49:08 pm
Sweet set up! Definitely on my list of thing to try. Nice and clean work as always!
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Post by: Adam on November 24, 2012, 03:12:15 pm
Man Pearl, I love seeing your work.
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Post by: osage outlaw on November 24, 2012, 03:16:01 pm
Come one ya big lumberjack, get that thing a bendin'  ;D
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Post by: PEARL DRUMS on November 24, 2012, 04:38:17 pm
Here are a few pics of the antler overlays. These are the sheds my son found last spring when we where out shooting leaves. The beefier tip is the lower. I figured since its always stuffed in the ground, stuffed into my boot toe or stuffed in a tree stand grate I may as well make it stronger, so I did.

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Post by: lesken2011 on November 24, 2012, 04:43:47 pm
She sure is lookin sweet!! I can't wait to see her all finished up! :P
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Post by: blackhawk on November 24, 2012, 05:29:38 pm
Come on..where are those full draw pics  >:(  :P
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Post by: Badly Bent on November 24, 2012, 05:40:32 pm
Saw your first post late last night, went to make a sandwich and now your almost done with it? Give me some of whatever your on man. :D
Greg
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Post by: blackhawk on November 24, 2012, 05:45:44 pm
Saw your first post late last night, went to make a sandwich and now your almost done with it? Give me some of whatever your on man. :D
Greg

Its called mountain dew..lol  :laugh:
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Post by: Bowman on November 24, 2012, 05:54:02 pm
Very nice. I think I must build a bow like this. :-)
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Post by: Weylin on November 24, 2012, 06:01:25 pm
my next project will likely be a sleeve take down with a nice pair of yew billets I have sitting around. I'm watching this with interest. Looks good so far PD.
Where'd you get you sleeves from? any recommendations?
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Post by: PEARL DRUMS on November 24, 2012, 06:51:12 pm
Weylin I made a swap on here for the set. 3 Rivers sells them I know.
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Post by: Will H on November 24, 2012, 07:47:31 pm
I'm glad you're doing this pearl! A buddy of mine gave me a sleeve set just like yours just the other day. I got a lot of irons in the fire bow wise but a take down is next on my list. Yours is lookin mighty fine there feller!
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Post by: PEARL DRUMS on November 24, 2012, 07:52:50 pm
If your like all guitfiddle players you have ape hands right? I bet that size large sleeve set will fit your grippers pretty decent Will (singer/song writer) Harrison.
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Post by: Fred Arnold on November 24, 2012, 10:55:55 pm
Looks good PD!
I started one a while back but haven't worked on it for probably 3 months. Messed it up a bit with the sleeve fit as I didn't leave extra wood around the sides and belly next to the sleeve. It's good and solid but the limbs at the riser top are narrower than the bottom by the difference of sleeve dimensions. Hoping it won't cause me tiller problems.
My thinking was the wood wasn't as dry as it needed to be so I hung it on the wall to cure. It should now be ready to work some.
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Post by: lostarrow on November 25, 2012, 12:15:37 am
Looking very nice, Pearly! I have the billets, just need the time and money for the rest. HaHa. (Damn day job)
Title: Re: Sleeve style take down
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on November 25, 2012, 09:39:37 am
Looks good PD!
I started one a while back but haven't worked on it for probably 3 months. Messed it up a bit with the sleeve fit as I didn't leave extra wood around the sides and belly next to the sleeve. It's good and solid but the limbs at the riser top are narrower than the bottom by the difference of sleeve dimensions. Hoping it won't cause me tiller problems.
My thinking was the wood wasn't as dry as it needed to be so I hung it on the wall to cure. It should now be ready to work some.

Fred I suggest aligning the limb and sleeve to your tastes. Then tape off the bottom as I did and fill it up with epoxy. It will fill any any gaps you have and hold the billet solid as a rock. I tapped my sleeve very lightly with a hammer and I could see bubbles forming so I knew my epoxy was flowing down in the slim spots the wood didnt fill up. Im sure it would work for you as well.
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Post by: Stringman on November 25, 2012, 11:58:19 am
You definitely hit a cord with this build! I'm already thinkin about a set of sleeves myself. Now I gotta go find some billets. Shouldn't be hard to do, I usually set the short stuff aside anyway. Keep pluggin man, we want to see her finished!

Scott
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Post by: adb on November 25, 2012, 12:01:56 pm
Hey... when you get this done, can you ship it to my house?? I'll need to test fire it!
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Post by: PEARL DRUMS on November 25, 2012, 06:50:32 pm
It needs sanding and sealing, but here it is. I finished it 50 @ 27. The bow can be drawn to 29" no problems. Its 64" ntn and a solid 1 5/8" wide. It was fun and something to do on Thanksgiving break besides eat, and its a nice conversation piece if anything. I will toss up some full draw pics when Im done sealing and gripping it.


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Post by: Badly Bent on November 25, 2012, 06:57:22 pm
Looks great PD.
I'm amazed at how fast you can work wood into a truly fine weapon. Can't wait to see that baby bend.
Greg
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Post by: osage outlaw on November 25, 2012, 06:58:42 pm
Looks great Pearly.  She has a nice braced profile.  I bet the FD is even sweeter.
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Post by: Cardboard_Duck on November 25, 2012, 07:43:21 pm
Looks great!!!

 If my VM two piece I'm working on turns out half as nice I'll be happy  ;D
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Post by: blackhawk on November 25, 2012, 09:18:59 pm
  ..."a nice conversation piece if anything"....huh ???   Please explain  8)
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Post by: Will H on November 25, 2012, 09:25:32 pm
Nicely done!
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Post by: PEARL DRUMS on November 25, 2012, 09:38:47 pm
  ..."a nice conversation piece if anything"....huh ???   Please explain  8)

You know me....picky, picky, picky. Im my own worst critic. Its a good shooting osage flatbow. Took on very little set so far, maybe an inch or so.
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Post by: steve b. on November 25, 2012, 09:58:40 pm
Nice job.  It would take me that long just to do the handle.  And I can't play the drums either.
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Post by: blackhawk on November 25, 2012, 10:03:10 pm
  ..."a nice conversation piece if anything"....huh ???   Please explain  8)

You know me....picky, picky, picky. Im my own worst critic. Its a good shooting osage flatbow. Took on very little set so far, maybe an inch or so.

Well..once ya figure out how to make a wood bow shoot faster and more accurately than today's modern compounds lemme know so you can show me how to make one..lol  :laugh:
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Post by: seabass on November 25, 2012, 10:31:46 pm
conversation piece,what?i think it looks great Chris.send it my way and we can have a conversation about it.you make good bows man.quit being so hard on yourself brother.
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Post by: bubby on November 25, 2012, 11:06:32 pm
nice one pd, i allways love your braced and full draw pics, so get the full draw allready >:D, Bub
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Post by: Pappy on November 26, 2012, 08:10:30 am
Looking good,can't wait to see it finished. :)
   Pappy
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Post by: PEARL DRUMS on November 26, 2012, 08:14:36 am
Thanks all. Im not hating this bow or anything like that, its a fine bow. Im not sure how much I like the physical weight is my only gripe. The lower half with the brass sleeeve weighs 15 oz. My digital scale doesnt go high enough to measure the upper limb with the steel sleeve. My guess is the whole bow is in the mid/upper 2#'s range. Most osage bows are a pound or so.
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Post by: Pappy on November 26, 2012, 08:21:57 am
I have built a few of them and I like the physical weight,makes them pretty stable for me. :)
   Pappy
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Post by: rossfactor on November 26, 2012, 01:27:39 pm
I think that mass in the middle of a bow is no big deal. Sweet one btw.

Gabe
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Post by: PEARL DRUMS on November 26, 2012, 04:00:58 pm
I will shoot a few hundred arrows through it, who knows? It may end up on the Post looking for a new home?

Thanks for all the kind words guys, Ill get her finished up in a day or so. Thinking about a good ol' Tru Oil finish. I have urethane dipped the last dozen bows or so and kind of miss the smell of Tru Oil in my shop.
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Post by: missilemaster on November 26, 2012, 09:58:14 pm
NOW its a bow! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: and a nice looking one at that!
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Post by: Cardboard_Duck on November 26, 2012, 10:27:30 pm
It may end up on the Post looking for a new home?


How about I save you some time and just PM you my address :)
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Post by: Fred Arnold on November 26, 2012, 11:01:56 pm
Thanks for posting PD. You've got me motivated so I'll post some pics and get started on it again this week>>>Fred
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Post by: PEARL DRUMS on November 30, 2012, 05:27:44 pm
You want bow porn?  You got it!



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Post by: PEARL DRUMS on November 30, 2012, 05:29:09 pm
Smore'
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Post by: PEARL DRUMS on November 30, 2012, 05:30:07 pm
And smore'
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Post by: PEARL DRUMS on November 30, 2012, 05:38:09 pm
Thats rain water on the leather grip, not glue or urethane.
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Post by: Onebowonder on November 30, 2012, 05:43:12 pm
Finally!!!  Nice sir...

OneBow

ETA = What type of Hackberry is that again???
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Post by: Bryce on November 30, 2012, 05:55:51 pm
Ooooooooooooh yeah! :o
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Post by: Fred Arnold on November 30, 2012, 06:08:58 pm
Wow PD!!! That looks like it made the hunting bow category to me. I'd have a hard time letting go of anything that nice. I keep looking on the wall at the one I started but keep getting sidetracked.
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Post by: Cardboard_Duck on November 30, 2012, 06:14:20 pm
Sweet! Awesome job on that one!
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Post by: seabass on November 30, 2012, 06:22:45 pm
very nicely done.now get busy on that two hole take-down.
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Post by: PEARL DRUMS on November 30, 2012, 06:24:08 pm
Im a step ahead of you Stevey!
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Post by: blackhawk on November 30, 2012, 07:05:44 pm
I thought you sold out and accepted reverend Ryan's doctrine and burned all your hedge  >:D

Sweet...bring it to Marty's this January...I talked to him last night on the phone and its on like Donkey Kong pal ;) and I heard Codys prob coming up too,and tom n don...Oooo yeah...ttyl pal
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Post by: bubby on November 30, 2012, 07:24:22 pm
is that it?, just a yeller bow with a great bend on it >:D, your making me feel bad about not haveing those billets made into a bow yet, look's geat PD, Bub
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Post by: paulsemp on November 30, 2012, 07:26:57 pm
sweet set up
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Post by: PEARL DRUMS on November 30, 2012, 07:27:07 pm
I told you I would fly out and take them back if you didnt use them bub. I take offense to a feller not using my gifted sage...........spit......


Thanks for the words folks. ;D

And here I come MartyJam 2013! WOO-HOO!
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Post by: Arrowind on November 30, 2012, 07:42:30 pm
AWESOME!!!!  It turnout great!  Nice work!
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Post by: bubby on November 30, 2012, 07:57:17 pm
I told you I would fly out and take them back if you didnt use them bub. I take offense to a feller not using my gifted sage...........spit......


it's not that i'm, uh, scared of them or nothing, ::), seriouslly i got a start on'em, but i aint gonna post nothin' till i'm done. :laugh:
but if ya want to fly out and repo them i'll treat ya to the best ribs and try tip ya ever had ;), Bub
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Post by: osage outlaw on November 30, 2012, 08:24:22 pm
Woooweeee!  That turned out nice.  Great job on it.  Your bows always have the nicest curves to them.
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Post by: PEARL DRUMS on November 30, 2012, 09:06:45 pm
Woooweeee!  That turned out nice.  Great job on it.  Your bows always have the nicest curves to them.

If we're being honest? I think "Pappy" profiled bows are thee best to look at. Mmmmm, thats what Im talking about. Will's carry that same profile and its smoother than butta'.
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Post by: Roy on November 30, 2012, 10:49:44 pm
Pearl, your take down looks great. Well done..
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Post by: PEARL DRUMS on November 30, 2012, 11:18:14 pm
Thats it?...."Pearl, your take down looks great. Well done".  No bad mouthing?  No " I guess its "ok"'s"? Are you sleepy Roybert?
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Post by: Roy on November 30, 2012, 11:20:37 pm
Ok, your take down sucks. Ya Happy Now?:)
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Post by: PEARL DRUMS on November 30, 2012, 11:30:12 pm
Thatta' boy!
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Post by: PEARL DRUMS on December 11, 2012, 07:02:50 pm
TTT for bobbykelley.
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Post by: Badly Bent on December 11, 2012, 07:48:41 pm
Nicely done PD, looks killer to me. Really like the looks of it leaning against that tree on the edge of the woods ready to be strung and taken out on a hunt. Sweet bow all around!
Greg
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Post by: Carson (CMB) on December 11, 2012, 08:21:06 pm
Beautiful bend on that bow, and a take-down to boot.  I need to start drinking mountain dew when I am working on that yeller wood...it seems to be some sort of a magic formula. 
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Post by: Will H on December 11, 2012, 09:04:49 pm
I really like that bow pearl! Finish pics are SEXY!!!  >:D
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Post by: coaster500 on December 11, 2012, 09:32:59 pm
Tapped out another one Drums, SaaaWeeeeeT!!!
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Post by: Roy on December 11, 2012, 10:05:33 pm
Coaster I wouldn't go that far. It's just ok.  O:)
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Post by: PEARL DRUMS on December 11, 2012, 10:25:23 pm
Beautiful bend on that bow, and a take-down to boot.  I need to start drinking mountain dew when I am working on that yeller wood...it seems to be some sort of a magic formula. 

Guilty! I love that nasty crap. My limit is 20 oz a day. Thats my secret number 2 to building bows.

1. Osage
2. Mt Dew
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Post by: PEARL DRUMS on December 11, 2012, 10:26:42 pm
Thanks Singer/Songwriter Will Harrison, Thanks Kip Winger........and you know what you can do Roy.......ol' man anyway's.
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Post by: Will H on December 11, 2012, 10:44:23 pm
 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:    8)
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Post by: criveraville on December 12, 2012, 01:03:18 am
Wow Pearly you keep amazing all of us!!

Cipriano
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Post by: Pappy on December 12, 2012, 06:18:27 am
Beautiful bow,very well done.I like it all. :)
   Pappy
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Post by: lesken2011 on December 12, 2012, 09:00:23 am
She turned out real nice, Chris. Ain't you glad you didn't put that rubber thang on it?? ;)
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Post by: VicNova on December 12, 2012, 09:17:53 am
Love the look of that take-down. Classic cool  8)
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Post by: SLIMBOB on December 12, 2012, 09:48:03 am
Really cool lookin' take-down.  Like the handle choice.  Your bows are are always spot on.