Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: BL on December 01, 2012, 01:09:28 pm
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I just saw this video and thought some may be interested. If it's been posted before I apologize.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zGnxeSbb3g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zGnxeSbb3g)
Highlights:
Lars Anderson drawing with up to 11 arrows held in the hand. Fires all 11 before the first hits the ground.
Firing 10 arrows in under 5 seconds in a side-by-side with other popular quick-draw videos.
Good accuracy at speed from various positions, while falling/jumping, with moving targets.
Some scant historical references that would maybe make sense to some of you guys but were lost on me.
Enjoy!
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Very cool, don't be surprised if this gets moved to another section. Happened to the last shooting vid
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This guy strikes me as pretty wrapped up in his own ego. He sure likes to toot his own horn. It's hard for me to see past that and see his skill for what it is.
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This guy was on 'right this minute' yesterday morning, is that where you first saw it?
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I wonder if he made this movie, and referred to himself in the third person the whole time, ;D. I thought he was pretty skilled at shooting fast. But what is the draw weight of the bow? I wonder if the bow he was using was anywhere close to the 75# - 100# and heavier turkish horn bows he was referring to. And what about the loss of momentum from not drawing the bow fully? I could see that guy lighting off arrows at a bunch of armored knights, and see em all plink off. ;D Pretty cool though. I definitely can't do that. Sometimes I will hold a couple arrows in the hand I am holding the bow with, and that is hard enough.
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knots, do you think maybe some of the people way back when trained from boyhood? i think its possible, which could mean they could do what he could with the draw your talking about.
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knots, do you think maybe some of the people way back when trained from boyhood? i think its possible, which could mean they could do what he could with the draw your talking about.
Maybe? In a real wartime scenario, I just don't see the point in speed shooting if the bow is only halfway drawn though. But maybe. You would have to be a beast to shoot a bow over a 100 pounds as fast as that guy was shooting.
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He was drawing maybe 14" inches and was 5 yards away. Sorry but that is not speed shooting in my book. That is a useless skill.
Jon
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It is impossible to document that his technique is the technique of the "old masters" quoted by the narrator. Especially when you take into account the compendium of sources from several continents over thousands of years. Just as there was no ONE bow, there was no ONE WAY to shoot.
The best thing to be said for high speed military arrow launching (a.k.a. rapid rate of fire) is that it maintains high rates of employment for those in the arrow making trades.
That being said, this guy has put quite a lot of effort into his trick shooting! He has undoubtably mastered speed shooting, and ain't exactly a slouch at hitting moving targets at the same time!
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He's got some shots in the video at 70 yards as well.
It would be interesting to know the weight of the bow, although it's the technique that's being explored here, and I'm sure you could find a good balance of the bow weight to how far you can effectively draw shooting like this.
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The last frames of the video state the two bows used are 30 and 35lbs.
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The last frames of the video state the two bows used are 30 and 35lbs.
I knew it. ;D
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It's still pretty impressive to have 11 arrows in the air at the same time, regardless of draw weight or length. I'd be lucky to get 2 in the air :o
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I saw this video the other day, and was not surprised either by the weight of the bows listed on the last frame. I also thought, given the robotic voice that it was himself narrating in third person. Kind of cheesey. But hey, this guy is good at what he set out to do. He clearly worked hard to achieve this skill, whether the skill has much application or not. It might not be how "the Masters" did it, but he certainly has established a method of rapid shooting that no one else (on youtube ;D) is doing today, but in all likelihood was a method utilized in the past. Like the narrator points out, a lot of purported legend, such as shooting 10 arrows into the air before the first strikes the ground sound like fanciful myths, but then he goes and one ups it. That is impressive and a valuable lesson in my opinion.
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I'll bet if he was from "The United States" your guy´s would be more respectful in your comment´s! Yes i'm from Denmark ;)
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I agree with what CMB said. I could care less about his ego, or if others don't care for his demeaner. Very interesting to me that people can not seperate personality from skill. ::)
VMB
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He clearly has a talent that he worked hard to achieve. In that sense I'm able to separate his skill from his demeanor. It doesn't seem unreasonable that I am put off by his presentation and attitude though. At the end of the day, my opinion on the subject doesn't matter very much but if I were him and wanted to share my hard earned talent with people I would find a less abrasive way of doing it.
I'll bet if he was from "The United States" your guy´s would be more respectful in your comment´s! Yes i'm from Denmark ;)
And honestly I'm probably giving him more of a benefit of the doubt given that he is from a different culture than me and that English isn't his first language. I'm not sure but I'd likely feel more critical of an American in his shoes. Either way, I don't want to make to big of a deal about his apparent ego, that was just my first impression and it made me less inclined to give him more of my attention regardless of his talent.
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I can shoot fast and accurate. Pretty sweet. The chain male thing was dumb. Of course it's gonna go through the arrows diameter is about the same size as the links.
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the narration sounds like a translation program to me.
Amazing skills
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Can't remember where i read it, but I saw somewhere recently that the old english archers had to be able to loose 10 arrows in a minute WITH a measure of long range accuracy to stay in the queen's guard or whatever. These were of course with the beastly 100#++ bows. Sure wish i remembered where i saw it...
Got respect for this guy, but there's still no comparison. Guess he'd make a good legolas character. ;)