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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Gordon on October 20, 2007, 09:42:52 pm

Title: vine maple sapling bow (w/pics)
Post by: Gordon on October 20, 2007, 09:42:52 pm
I have been curious if I could fashion a short hunting weight bow from a vine maple sapling so I selected a 1 ¾” diameter sapling that I cut while steelhead fishing last winter for the job. The bow is 57” ntn, pulls 55# @ 27” and bends through the handle. The width is 1 3/8” at the handle, about 1 ½” mid-limb tapering to 7/16” at the tips. I built the handle area up with leather to make it easier to grip while shooting. The limbs are asymetrical. I used a John Strunk style handle wrap and capped each end with a strip of mink fur (that I got from my fly-typing supplies).The bow is stained with leather dye and finished with a coat of paraffin wax. The bow has some small frets along one edge of the limbs that I believe occurred when I first strung the bow during tillering. The limbs leaned to one side and the strain was too much for the thin edges.  I’ve pulled the bow over a 1000 times on my tree and I don’t think they are going to cause any trouble. But next time I build a sapling bow I’ll try to get the tips more or less aligned before I put the short string on it.

When I showed the bow to my wife she commented that it looks like it should be named Nanook – so that’s what I named it.

(http://mysite.verizon.net/res0oeio/Nanook/nanook1.jpg)

(http://mysite.verizon.net/res0oeio/Nanook/nanook2.jpg)

(http://mysite.verizon.net/res0oeio/Nanook/nanook3.jpg)

(http://mysite.verizon.net/res0oeio/Nanook/nanook4.jpg)

(http://mysite.verizon.net/res0oeio/Nanook/nanook5.jpg)

(http://mysite.verizon.net/res0oeio/Nanook/nanook6.jpg)

(http://mysite.verizon.net/res0oeio/Nanook/nanook7.jpg)

(http://mysite.verizon.net/res0oeio/Nanook/nanook8.jpg)

(http://mysite.verizon.net/res0oeio/Nanook/nanook10.jpg)

Title: Re: vine maple sapling bow (w/pics)
Post by: brian melton on October 20, 2007, 11:21:13 pm


         Hi Gordon been a while, nice bow! Hey you ever tried to a decrowed backed reflex deflex design using Vine as the belly wood, or for that matter a severe reflex deflex unbacked?? I am pondering both..... ;D
Title: Re: vine maple sapling bow (w/pics)
Post by: Gordon on October 21, 2007, 12:36:53 am
Hey Brian, good to hear from you again!

Vine maple is very strong in tension so I don't back vine maple unless there is an issue. If you do use a high stress design with vine maple keep the belly really flat as vine maple is not nearly as strong in compression.
Title: Re: vine maple sapling bow (w/pics)
Post by: cowboy on October 21, 2007, 01:03:44 am
Dang Gordon - nother nice bow!! Think you could take a random peice of drift wood and tiller it perfectly :). Gonna do a Stunk style handle on one of mine soon.......
Title: Re: vine maple sapling bow (w/pics)
Post by: venisonburger on October 21, 2007, 02:09:22 am
 knarly yet beautiful , as usual you've made something really pleasing to look at, do you have any close pictures of the belly showing the grain?
V
Title: Re: vine maple sapling bow (w/pics)
Post by: deerhunter97370 on October 21, 2007, 02:40:55 am
Gordon, You are truely a Master Caftsman. Good Job.

Joel
Title: Re: vine maple sapling bow (w/pics)
Post by: medicinewheel on October 21, 2007, 03:36:39 am

hey gordon!  -  that's a really nice bow again!
frank
Title: Re: vine maple sapling bow (w/pics)
Post by: DanaM on October 21, 2007, 08:59:18 am
Gordon that is sweet looking primitive style bow. It looks like you
are pushing the envelope with that one. Well done.
Title: Re: vine maple sapling bow (w/pics)
Post by: George Tsoukalas on October 21, 2007, 10:09:44 am
Gordon, that is an awesome tiller. Great job. Jawge
Title: Re: vine maple sapling bow (w/pics)
Post by: Ryano on October 21, 2007, 10:39:05 am
Good job on that knarley looking piece Gordon. I'm going to have to try that vine maple some time. :)
Title: Re: vine maple sapling bow (w/pics)
Post by: Pat B on October 21, 2007, 12:46:07 pm
Beautiful bow, Gordon. I love knarly character bows and you have nailed the tiller on this knarly stick!    Pat
Title: Re: vine maple sapling bow (w/pics)
Post by: OldBow on October 21, 2007, 12:51:52 pm
Your full draw pics should convince anyone that this is one very well tillered bow. Looking forward to  seeing it for Oct Bow of the Month consideration.
Title: Re: vine maple sapling bow (w/pics)
Post by: david w. on October 21, 2007, 06:14:35 pm
i love that it is so cool.one of the coolest i have seen.  does vine maple grow in Sw illinois? I live more in the north part of sw il
Title: Re: vine maple sapling bow (w/pics)
Post by: Gordon on October 21, 2007, 06:48:15 pm
VB, I added another picture that shows the belly.

David, as far as I know vine maple grows naturally only in the Pacific NW.
Title: Re: vine maple sapling bow (w/pics)
Post by: medicinewheel on October 22, 2007, 02:47:21 am

that handle wrap is the coolest!
Title: Re: vine maple sapling bow (w/pics)
Post by: Pappy on October 22, 2007, 06:19:14 am
Beautiful bow Gordon,great tiller as usually.Great job. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: vine maple sapling bow (w/pics)
Post by: AndrewS on October 22, 2007, 10:31:32 am
Looks like a fine new bow ;)

Gordon you worked every piece of wood in a piece of art I think....
Title: Re: vine maple sapling bow (w/pics)
Post by: Stonedog on October 22, 2007, 11:05:58 am
Gordon Lad,

You can make a bow.....very nice!
Title: Re: vine maple sapling bow (w/pics)
Post by: dragonfly on October 22, 2007, 01:15:41 pm
i love those vine maple bows, piece by piece marvelous
Title: Re: vine maple sapling bow (w/pics)
Post by: Woodland Roamer on October 22, 2007, 01:20:02 pm
Beautiful bow Gordon!

Alan
Title: Re: vine maple sapling bow (w/pics)
Post by: a finnish native on October 22, 2007, 01:45:04 pm
a great looking bow. I would have gone with a shorter handle area, but it has no effect on the performance since it is a bend through bow. all in all very neat.
Title: Re: vine maple sapling bow (w/pics)
Post by: wytetale on October 22, 2007, 05:31:14 pm
Super looking bow, love the tiller on it.
Title: Re: vine maple sapling bow (w/pics)
Post by: huntinoly on October 23, 2007, 08:48:14 pm
Great looking bow Gordon. I didn't know you could make an unbacked vine maple bow that short. Greg
Title: Re: vine maple sapling bow (w/pics)
Post by: mullet on October 23, 2007, 08:54:20 pm
  Very nice looking bow Gordon.You are the man with that vine maple.
Title: Re: vine maple sapling bow (w/pics)
Post by: StanM on October 24, 2007, 03:02:21 am
Fine looking bow, Gordon.  Would be a dandy for hunting blacktails, I'd think.

Stan
Title: Re: vine maple sapling bow (w/pics)
Post by: makete on October 24, 2007, 11:21:40 am
I really enjoy seeing your vine maple bows. And this one is super. Been trying to get my family members who still live in Washington state to send me some vine maple, but none yet. :'(
Title: Re: vine maple sapling bow (w/pics)
Post by: rudy on October 25, 2007, 06:29:53 am
Hi
is there, on the internet, an explanation of how to make the Strunk style handle wrap?

I'd like to put one on my bow.
Thank you.
Rudy
Title: Re: vine maple sapling bow (w/pics)
Post by: Marc St Louis on October 25, 2007, 08:31:31 am
Nice bow Gordon. Nice collection of knots on it too :)
Title: Re: vine maple sapling bow (w/pics)
Post by: ber643 on October 25, 2007, 07:04:16 pm
Another beauty by Gordon, and , as I posted elswhere, "I think I am in love with the handle wrap/work."

One of the Full Draw pics has also been posted on my TBD pages (Page 15), and I couldn't resist includng a "click on" link to a pic of the handle  :D.
Title: Re: vine maple sapling bow (w/pics)
Post by: Milo on October 26, 2007, 04:02:12 pm
Another beautiful bow as always! (of course I also have a preference for vinemaple... lol) I have to ask what you used to get that color on this bow...  brand and color, if you don't mind.

Of course this now has me staring at my staves again... lol
Title: Re: vine maple sapling bow (w/pics)
Post by: Gordon on October 26, 2007, 04:46:04 pm
Milo,

I used a combination of green and light-brown Fiebing's leather dye. I applied coats of each dye separately and sanded/steel-wooled until I got the color I was looking for.

This bow was really just practice before I tackle the piece of wood I really have my eye on. It is full of bumps, knots, character and even has some branches coming out of the back. I figure I have about a 50/50 chance of pulling it off.
Title: Re: vine maple sapling bow (w/pics)
Post by: Justin Snyder on October 26, 2007, 05:05:05 pm
Gordon, you definitely make some beautifully bows, and this one does not disappoint.  Justin
Title: Re: vine maple sapling bow (w/pics)
Post by: Milo on October 26, 2007, 09:12:17 pm
Thanks Gordon! I was enthralled by the way it appeared that brown was showing through green - then green showing through brown....   attractive and camo all in one.

Title: Re: vine maple sapling bow (w/pics)
Post by: mamba on October 26, 2007, 10:20:38 pm
Perfect looking D-BOW with a knarly pc. of wood,great looking bow Gordon.