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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: tgtmatt on February 11, 2013, 01:38:33 pm

Title: Wood species question?
Post by: tgtmatt on February 11, 2013, 01:38:33 pm
I have a ton of wood like these around my neck of the woods and I'm not sure exactly what types they are. I've looked in books but I just cannot figure this one out. (I'm probably overlooking it a lot)

The first two pictures were a larger tree


Third is a tree that had a limb cut that was growing over a farm.

Title: Re: Wood species question?
Post by: blackhawk on February 11, 2013, 01:44:43 pm
First one is ash with a slight bit of twist

Second one might be hard maple?????.. hard to tell from that pic.

Where do u live?
Title: Re: Wood species question?
Post by: tgtmatt on February 11, 2013, 01:52:40 pm
I live in South carolina. Near the beach.
Title: Re: Wood species question?
Post by: DarkSoul on February 11, 2013, 02:41:35 pm
Identifying a tree by solely one picture of the outer surface of the bark, without any further information, is extremely difficult and unreliable at best. Try to get pictures of the leaves, fruits, buds, description of habitat, clear pic of the end grain, size reference, smell, associated animals or plants...
Title: Re: Wood species question?
Post by: Hrothgar on February 11, 2013, 02:42:06 pm
Yep, first one's ash. Second ?
Title: Re: Wood species question?
Post by: StickMan47 on February 11, 2013, 03:34:25 pm
+1 on what Dark Soul says. First pic is likely to be ash, as Blackhawk stated, but identifying by bark alone is sometimes taking a shot in the dark. Bark on a young tree will often look different from that on an older tree of the same species. Leaves are the real key. Spring is just around the corner tho, so when they put on some leaves get another pic and ask us again. Also when pulling green leaves off crush some in your hands and see if they have a distinct odor and tell us that information too. If the leaves have a different color or texture on their underside that will also help as some species can be very similar on the top but vary by what's underneath.

I know people have made good bows out of ash before. TBB 4 lists Green Ash having a specific gravity of .56; and White Ash at .59 SG. Carolina Ash is not listed in the TBB. Reason for mentioning these three species is because they are the ones found in South Carolina according to the North American Field Guide. Pumpkin Ash is also found there but it is very similar to Green Ash. Hope that helps. Not sure if you was looking for that many details but it's here now if you need it. 
Title: Re: Wood species question?
Post by: Pat B on February 11, 2013, 04:05:39 pm
The second one looks like a poplar but I don't know if poplars grow near the SC coast. The third one looks like an oak, maybe water oak.
 Where in coastal SC are you? I used to live in Bluffton, near Hilton Head.
Title: Re: Wood species question?
Post by: tgtmatt on February 11, 2013, 04:47:09 pm
Thanks guys for all the information. I come to this forum for almost every question I can't just figure out.

Pat, I live in myrtle beach.
Title: Re: Wood species question?
Post by: wapiti1997 on February 11, 2013, 11:34:21 pm
I agree looks like ash, poplar, and a red oak species.
Title: Re: Wood species question?
Post by: JT on February 12, 2013, 12:08:49 am
I'm gonna go with poplar, poplar, red oak.
Title: Re: Wood species question?
Post by: tgtmatt on February 12, 2013, 12:14:06 am
Identifying trees is very difficult for me. I wish I had a mentor who lived around here. This would be a whole lot easier.
Title: Re: Wood species question?
Post by: autologus on February 12, 2013, 12:33:33 am
The second looks like water oak or willow oak.

Grady
Title: Re: Wood species question? (I think I figured it out?)
Post by: tgtmatt on February 20, 2013, 12:21:41 am
Could the tall one that everyone believes is ash actually be sweetgum? I remember seeing ball like fruit hanging on the limbs that I believe to be sweetgum balls. I could be wrong, but the bark seems to match a little.
Title: Re: Wood species question?
Post by: Pat B on February 20, 2013, 01:14:41 am
Are there any 5 pointed, palmated leaves around the base of the tree. Thats what sweet gum has.
 I cut my tree IDing teeth in and around Bluffton SC on the southern end of the SC coast so the trees should be similar.
Title: Re: Wood species question?
Post by: tgtmatt on February 20, 2013, 01:19:39 am
I will have to look next time i'm out there, might be awhile but I'll inform you when I do.
Title: Re: Wood species question?
Post by: Puma on February 20, 2013, 02:03:02 am
Impossible to tell from bark pictures. I second the notion that you need leaves or you can cut a small piece and get it to a university where they can examine it under a microscope. They'll do it for free. A few years ago I felled an unknown tree in the winter and the local university figured it out for me.
Title: Re: Wood species question?
Post by: tgtmatt on February 28, 2013, 09:33:54 am
Another question guys! What type of wood does this look like, I believe it is some type of oak.


And also, what does checking look like on the back of a stave? I have never seen pictures before and I am curious. Also, how long does it take to begin checking? (average) because I know it will be different for different woods.
Title: Re: Wood species question? Another question:)
Post by: tgtmatt on February 28, 2013, 09:34:46 am
Two more pictures
Title: Re: Wood species question?
Post by: RidgeRunner on February 28, 2013, 10:04:53 am
Last two look like Sweetgum.
See the gray on the inside on the 1/2 log....  Looks like spalting.
Spalting is the first stages of rot.   Sweetgum rots real fast if given the chance.

David
Title: Re: Wood species question?
Post by: crooketarrow on February 28, 2013, 10:20:56 am
  The first pic. is differntly red oak,next is a suckie pic. but it could be elm or ash. Perrty sure bt the bark the last is hickory. Really hard to tell by just one pic.
Title: Re: Wood species question?
Post by: tgtmatt on February 28, 2013, 10:27:53 am
Those pictures are all of the same tree I had cut down.