Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Arrows => Topic started by: stringstretcher on March 17, 2013, 05:11:43 pm
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Nothing like putting together some heavy hitting cane hog arrows. These will be 28" long, with 300 grains up front for a total of 737.6 grains. They will gain a few more grains when I install the points.
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finished arrow
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Nice arrows.
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Oh wow. Nice arrows. I assume you intend to shoot those off of a powerful bow, cause 700 grains is a bit heavy. Those broadheads look nasty.
-Squirrel
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Yeah Squirrel they will be shot off all the bow I can handle, a 45 lb osage self bow at 26". And fly like darts.
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Looks beastly, charlie!
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Charlie, you'll be digging those arrows out of the dirt on the other side of the pigs with blood all over them. You make a pretty nice cane arrow. ;)
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I hope so Pat. And I had some great help and advice on learning to make these. I am liking them more and more.
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Nice, clean looking arrows. Should definitly get the job done.
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I went down and gathered up a few things to try this morning as I felt something was just not quite the way it should be, so I started experimenting and in fact found a couple of flaws. The shoulder inside the cane was all one size while the collar on the insert was bigger. Even after tapering the whole to make it work, I did not like it. So I got out my calipers and measured everything, TWICE, and then went and found a drill that was just a few thousandths bigger to give me a little glue wiggle room. Take not, you do not want a dull drill bit, it will crack the cane. You do not want a sharp drill bit, it will grab and walk up inside the cane. Lesson learned the hard way. After getting the bit just right, I had four pieces of cane left that I could use, and went to work. I drilled very slowly about a 1/4 down in the cane for the collar to ride down and on. After test fitting each piece to an insert, I put my hot melt on and got the all glued in and spun up. Looking really good. I had also planned to put sinew wrap at the point which I did next and most of them are drying now. I did the one that I had finished yesterday up and did the completion of it with a short cut piece of shrink tubing that I had cut to about 1/2 wide and slide up on the cane before putting the point in, only to find that I could in fact unscrew the point and take it off. So I put the shrink tubing on, screwed the point back on, pushed the shrink tubing down against the broad head, heated it up and took my fingers and mashed the edges down, and have a rock hard, almost footed cane arrow sporting all this weight up front with no where for it to give and break. Simply awesome. I will get a picture or two of the four finished arrows when every thing dries. Man I really like these heavy cane arrows.
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I just clean out the pith of rivercane, then carve a wooden insert for it, then glue in with epoxy. No drills, etc. I have never split a cane before. I usually make spears, but I have made some arrows(albiet cruddy ones- my fletching is horrid) from it, and have never had a problem. I sometimes drill out the shaft so I can put a screw-type broadhead insert in, and the wood keeps the shaft from splitting(epoxy is the greatest thing on earth). Another trick is to wrap the cane part you want to drill tightly with ducttape or some thin string, being careful not to crush it. Hm.... Me no like osage.
-Squirrel
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Here they are all finished up. One of these was a light piece of cane and I used it just for test fitting things and seeing how they worked. The other three, are with in 40 grains of one another. I think that is as close as I can get them with out trying harder...lol.
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e369/STRINGSTRETCHER/Cane%20arrow%20work/Finishedcane001_zps9f8f1eaf.jpg)
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e369/STRINGSTRETCHER/Cane%20arrow%20work/Finishedcane003_zpscfbbf217.jpg)
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Squirrellslinger you are knowledgeable beyond your years my friend. So why don't you impress us (me) with some pictures of all this work that you do?
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those look nice Charles.
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Thanks Steve
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Nice arrows, Charlie. They ought to do the trick.
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yep i love em! where did you get the cane? send me a pm if you must. I really like the look of them.
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Thanks all. This is some bamboo, actually the lightest of all the canes or bamboo, Japanese Arrow Bamboo that I cut from a patch about 2 hours from my home. I will have several bunches of it with me at the classic for those interested.
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Sorry if this is off-topic, but what is the Classic, I hear it mentioned a LOT.
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That ought to do the job Charlie,Very nice job. SS the Classic is an event held at TwinOaks in Clarksville TN. every year the first of May,we have a bunch for Primitive Archer and lot of other Tarditonal/Primitive folks show up. :) Chec out the event section. :)
Pappy
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Thanks Pappy. They are fun to make when you are house bound from all the bad winter weather.
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Those are awesome arrows Charlie.You are going into the task at hand with the right ammo for sure. Kill a bunch of em. 8) God Bless
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fine and straight looking hunting sticks !
never heard about using shrink tubing on an arrow shaft before..interesting!
what is the cane diameter up close to the point?
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None of my cane come out more than 3/8 at the tip, but some are close. As for the shrink tubing, I used it more of an insurance against the real sinew coming apart in wet weather. And it makes a better, smoother transition from the point to the cane its self.
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I wrap my art. Sinew lashings with electrical tape(very tight and form-fitting)for waterproofness...
My cane is usually around 1/2 inch, with a bow with a slim riser section. I just aim a bit to the right..
I can consistatly hit my 12 inch target at around 20 yards, so I am just fine.
Plus I mainly shoot off of an red oak longbow, unbacked, 45 pounds@28", or a 50 pound fiberglass recurve, #50@28".
These bows both shoot well, but I prefer the longbow for traditional equipment, and I shoot most of my slimmer, spined arrows off of it(1/4-3/8 cane or 1/2 honeysuckle), and some old arrows off of my recurve- I have 6 carbon arrows, they used to be 32", my uncle shattered them on rocks(he missed with a 65 pound compound...) and now they are 26.5", and I use bi-fletching- two arrows can be fletched with one feather, I am short on feathers. Epoxy is good stuff, but not traditional...
I prefer primitive, it is much cheaper.... and a heck of a lot more fun...
I have a tendancy to ramble. Sorry...
-Squirrel
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Just remember Squirrel. The man that talks little, says a lot. The man that talks a lot, says little.
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Just remember Squirrel. The man that talks little, says a lot. The man that talks a lot, says little.
Most true of me.
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These are gorgeous. I shoot heavy (680ish) bamboo arrows out of a 51# bow for deer and pigs. I like the heft.
These arrows are really something. The hogs will appreciate the swift efficiency ;)
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Actually these are a little on the heavy side, but I was playing with point weights on some cane that I had worked up for some one else. Just to let every one know, these cane spined at 110 lbs, and I am shooting them at 28" long out of a 45 lb. osage self bow, and they fly great.
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Bump
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Squirrellslinger you are knowledgeable beyond your years my friend. So why don't you impress us (me) with some pictures of all this work that you do?
Some pics of my work coming soon:)
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Awesome pig stickers! It was nice to meet ya in person this weekend. I wish I had thought to ask you then. On your self nocks, do you use a file or a small drill bit to get your nock point? Hope that Osage staves works out for ya. You sir went above and beyond on trade!
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That'll do (a) pig...That'll do. ;)
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Those should do the job
Whens the bbq
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Thanks for all the compliments on these arrows from those that came by at the classic and saw them. I really enjoyed talking cane/boo with all those interested. Thanks for a great time to all.
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What diameter ? Did you put a finish on them ? Nice arrows . I fear for the hogs
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These all run about 3/8 at the big end, and yes these have spray on poly.